Ehhhh.... weak at best.

Here is what happened to White Sox nation:

2007 was one of the worst teams in the franchise history. Drove away and killed whatever drawing card from winning teams of '05 and '06. Blackhawks got good and Bulls got Derrick Rose.

There are still plenty of members of Sox Nation. Too bad the team is 4th on the Chicago teams depth chart. Too bad they are spending all their ticket money at the United Center these days.

Uh no. How about the worst location for the ball park? Why would anyone from the suburbs, especially in West and North, want to drive to South Side to see a game? Murderous traffic most of the time in-bound, even literally. To get there for a night game, it's at least a 1 1/2 hour trip one way from Naperville.

Uh no. How about the worst location for the ball park? Why would anyone from the suburbs, especially in West and North, want to drive to South Side to see a game?

Gotta go back to early 80's. The Sox lost a generation with pay per view and the Cubs gained a nation via doing the exact opposite....

Its the balance of the world....at the same time Jerry R got a guy named Jordan, nice trade off

Its very easy to get to and from in regards to the South side and the South burbs. I think that's most of their fanbase.


Where would you put it that traffic wouldnt be bad from Naperville? In Naperville?


Its not Hawk, but its not location either

I have pointed it out before that Jerry looks at the Sox as something he tried to make into this family event, comfy, feel good etc. It didn take, so he let it all go back to the F U mode of everything.

Right. Wasn't Reinsdorf and Einhorn's early tenure defined by trying to smooth off all the rough edges of the Bill Veeck White Sox? They got rid of Harry and Jimmy, they replaced Andy the Clown with Ribbie and Roobarb, anything that developed organically or couldn't make them money was scrubbed out by the rich out-of-towners. Sounds a little like what Tom Ricketts is doing now, come to think of it.

Yup, he tried to make everything 'Super Friendly" and in his words 'clean it up'

Rube...Hawk is not even close to being in the same sentence as Harry.

That's true. And the old park was never friendly. It was dark and dangerous. Shirtless teenagers smoking weed in the corners. Andy the Clown and his filthy mouth. I felt like a grownup there when I was twelve years old. It was a totally different vibe than Wrigley. You could get the same vibe at Wrigley back then, but you had to walk outside the park.

Uh no. How about the worst location for the ball park? Why would anyone from the suburbs, especially in West and North, want to drive to South Side to see a game? Murderous traffic most of the time in-bound, even literally. To get there for a night game, it's at least a 1 1/2 hour trip one way from Naperville.

How about an uncharismatic manager? How about bad players, until this year? Should we have wanted to go see Adam Dunn and Gordon Beckham?

The opposite is true. Hawk would be a reason to go see them. Die hard Sox fans love him still. He is Mr. White Sox. There are no die hard Sox fans at the Score, except Mully maybe.

That's true. And the old park was never friendly. It was dark and dangerous. Shirtless teenagers smoking weed in the corners. Andy the Clown and his filthy mouth. I felt like a grownup there when I was twelve years old.