***Note CFB games Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. NFL Thursday***

***This is the last week of the college regular season. The first bowl game is Sat., Dec. 20th. There will be a separate Bowl Schedule thread to post in once the complete lineup is released next week.***


This weekly wagering contest will reward the best football prognosticator with a $100 gift certificate from a meat/steak company. New guys can still join in any time and you don't have to make a pick every week. Post them all at once or in separate posts, but they must be posted in the current week's contest thread. Post your plays any time, but they must be posted before a game you are playing kicks off. You must make your picks in this thread and you must provide at least one reason for each pick. Minimum 50 picks to qualify by the end of the contest.


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BoilermakerRick__4-3________26-14-1___65
Albert Hofmann__0-0________21-12-2___64
DarrenTinleyPark_4-5________50-34-4___59.5
good dolphin____11-5_______59-45-1___56.7
Nas____________23-9_______80-63-3___55.9
Hawkeye Vince__10-6_______40-33_____54.8
Bud Dude_______7-10_______94-80-1___54.0
Irish Boy_______4-2-1_______25-21-2___54
WaltWilliamsNeck_5-5________64-55-3___53.8
Chus___________10-5_______138-121-8__53.3
Evergreen Tommy_2-0________26-23-2___53.1
RFDC___________9-7________73-68-2___51.8
Coast2Coast_____0-0________63-59-4___51.6
donspiracy______5-4-1______68-64-5___51.5
schmitty1121____6-8________89-85-7___51.1
shultzyy________0-0________49-47-4___51.0
sabu___________5-2________43-42-1___50.6
muman89________0-0________45-45-5___50.0
newper__________0-0________32-32-3___50.0
MattMurtonsBeard_5-5________20-20_____50
Colonel Angus____6-8________140-153-9__47.8
reents__________5-5________72-79-1____47.7
a retard_________0-0________4-5_______44
City of Fools_____0-0________3-4_______43
M_C____________0-0________18-29-1___38
At Large_________0-0________0-1_______0


OverallStandings
CFBWeek 1 60-43_____58.3%
NFLWeek 1 87-78-9___52.7
NFLWeek 2 86-70-9___55.1
NFLWeek 3 101-103-5_49.5
NFLWeek 4 83-79-4___51.3
NFLWeek 5 84-65-9___56.4
NFLWeek 6 91-89-5___50.6
NFLWeek 7 102-96-1__51.5
NFLWeek 8 125-107-7_53.9
NFLWeek 9 110-106-2_50.9
NFLWeek10 83-99-8___45.6
NFLWeek11 116-111-1_51.1
NFLWeek12 90-96-7___48.4
NFLWeek13 121-89-2__57.6
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Please let me know if any of the totals are incorrect. Thank you.


Early CFB Action
ALL TIMES CENTRAL

Wednesday, December 3, 2008
6:00 PM M Tenn St (5-6, 3-3 S. Belt) at La Lafayette (5-6, 4-2 S. Belt)

Thursday, December 4, 2008
6:30 PM Louisville (5-6, 1-5 Big East) at Rutgers (6-5, 4-2 Big East)

Friday, December 5, 2008
MAC CHAMPIONSHIP
7:00 PM (12) Ball St (12-0, 8-0 MAC) at Buffalo (7-5, 5-3 MAC)

Saturday, December 6, 2008
Early Risers
11:00 AM (23) Pittsburgh (8-3, 4-2 Big East) at Connecticut (7-4, 3-3 Big East)
CONFERENCE USA CHAMPIONSHIP
11:00 AM East Carolina (8-4, 6-2 C-USA) at Tulsa (10-2, 7-1 C-USA)
AT PHILADELPHIA PA
11:00 AM Navy (7-4, 3-2 away) at Army (3-8, 2-4 home)
ACC CHAMPIONSHIP
12:00 PM (17) Boston College (9-3, 5-3 ACC) at (25) Virginia Tech (8-4, 5-3 ACC)
2:00 PM Washington (0-11, 0-8 Pac-10) at California (7-4, 5-3 Pac-10)
SEC CHAMPIONSHIP
3:00 PM (1) Alabama (12-0, 8-0 SEC) at (4) Florida (11-1, 7-1 SEC)
3:30 PM (5) USC (10-1, 7-1 Pac-10) at UCLA (4-7, 3-5 Pac-10)

PrimeTimers
6:00 PM Western Kentucky (2-9, 1-5 away) at Fla Int'l (4-7, 3-4 S. Belt)
6:00 PM Arkansas St (6-5, 4-2 S. Belt) at Troy (7-4, 5-1 S. Belt)
7:00 PM Arizona St (5-6, 4-4 Pac-10) at Arizona (6-5, 4-4 Pac-10)
BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP
7:00 PM (20) Missouri (9-3, 5-3 Big 12) at (2) Oklahoma (11-1, 7-1 Big 12)
7:00 PM South Florida (7-4, 2-4 Big East) at West Virginia (7-4, 4-2 Big East)
10:30 PM (13) Cincinnati (10-2, 6-1 Big East) at Hawaii (7-5, 5-3 WAC)


Early NFL Action
ALL TIMES CENTRAL
Thursday, December 4, 2008
7:15 PM Oakland (3-9, 2-4 away) at San Diego (4-8, 3-3 home)

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NCAA
Oklahoma -16 W
Missouri/Oklahoma over 79 W
Middle Tennessee State/Louisiana Lafayette over 57 W
Boston College pickem L
Rutgers -10 W
Buffalo/Ball State over 61 W
Pittsburgh +3 W
USC -32 L
Arizona -10 W
East Carolina/Tulsa over 65 L

NCAA: 7-3

NFL
Baltimore -5 W
Green Bay -6 L
Cincinnati/Indianapolis under 42 W
New England -6.5 L
Miami +2 W
San Francisco +5.5 W

NFL: 4-2

11-5

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I cannot believe they did not move that SEC championship to prime time.

Louisiana-Lafayette -4.5 against Middle Tennessee
Just for a little action tonight. I will take the home team, who has 2 1,000 yard rushers in the same lineup. MTU has gotten fat the last three weeks on the bottom three teams in their conference. They have given up big points to anyone good. LLU is nothing great, but a home team that can run should be able to wear out a bad defense in the second half.

Rutgers -11 against Louisville
Late money on Rutgers is driving the line up, as it was at 9.5 at some point yesterday. Rutgers has won 5 in a row, many against better teams than Louisville and most have been by larger than the 11. Louisville's secondary is heavily injured which plays into Rutgers NCAA leading reciever Britt's game. I think senior night on national TV for a group that helped to define the new Scarlet Knight era will be highly emotional for players and fans alike. The Knights will bury them early.

Raiders +9.5 at Chargers
The Chargers are this year's Bengals. They have been unjustifiably favored in a series of games that they have failed to cover. I know they have an impressive offensive lineup, but this group has been failing far too regularly to rely upon. This is a big number in a rivalry game and the Raiders actually have a better record against the spread than the Chargers. Also the Raider offense has been showing life lately, reestablishing the ground game that made Huggy Bear a 1,000 yard back last year.

Ball State -14.5 against Buffalo in Detroit
Ball State wrapped up the regular season by beating the other two teams in the MAC who were far and away #2 and #3 in the conference. They beat Central Michigan on the road by seven in a game that was not than close and then destroyed Western Michigan at home. Otherwise, there is no team in the conference who has come within 14 of Ball State. I like Buffalo and have played them several times this year. They have built this record by beating lesser teams in the much weaker division of the MAC. I lay the 14.5 without blinking and would not be shocked if they doubled that.

Navy -11 against Army in Philadelphia
This is not as good of a Navy team as we have seen in the past few years. There defense is soft, particularly against the pass and they have had injuries on offense. Still, they lead the nation in rushing and their replacement QB is really starting to roll. I like Navy in this one big.

Cincinnatti -7 at Hawaii
Always dangerous to give points on the island, especially in a game that has no ramifications. Hawaii sucks, plain and simple. They have a decent record, but it is deceptive. Bearcat coach Kelly is making a name for himself, so I don't think he will let his team play soft. Also, this is not a huge number to make, so I don't see a back end cover. Cinci played soft last week against syracuse and still beat them by 20. I can see the same result here.

Oklahoma -16.5 against Missouri in Kansas City
I cannot see playing against Oklahoma. They have been battle tested against the best competiton in the nation, and really dominated the schedule. Even against Texas they had a nice lead that they gave up. Points will be scored, but there is absolutely no reason Oklahoma isn't playing in the 50s again.

Bears -6.5 againt Jags
Jags coming off a monday night road game should be ripe for picking here. Take this one hard.

Dolphins +1 against Bills in Toronto
JP Losman starting for a sliding bills team. Their D is not playing well and Ricky Williams makes a triumphal return to Toronto.

Pats -4.5 against Seahawks
Jets -4 at 49ers

Panthers -3 against Bucs
Home team wins almost 90% of the games in this division. I'll take my chances that it will not be a difference of 1 or 2 points.

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Middle Tennessee State/Louisiana Lafayette over 57

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What? So it could interfere with the big Western Funtucky/Florida International game?

The times for the games are a bit off. The SEC game in a dome, will be played during the day. The Big 12 game, played at Arrowhead Stadium, will start at 7 PM.

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

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Yes. I believe it gets [Larry David voice]prettay, prettay cold[/Larry David voice] in KC, so they should have it the other way around.

Boston College pickem

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Baltimore -5

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Ball State -15

Florida -9.5

Oklahoma -16.5

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Green Bay -6

Giants -7

Atlanta +3

Cowboys +3

New England -4.5

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Louisville @ Rutgers -10 Two programs heading in different directions. (WIN)

Adding on....
Buffalo vs Ball State -14.5 Buffalo has put together a nice year but I don't see any quality wins from them. (LOSS)

Pitt +3 @ UConn - Head scratcher of a number. UConn has lost 2 of last 3 with win to lowly Syracuse. Pitt has been tough all year long. (WIN)

BC vs Va Tech Pk - Va Tech is going to come after the freshman QB this week. (WIN)

South Florida @ West Virginia -7 West Virginia is playing good ball right now. South Florida has been struggling on the road. (loss)

Western Kentucky @ Florida International -8 FIU has improved ton this season while W Ky has been plain ole bad. (win)

4-2 week

Raiders +9.5 vs Chargers- I thouhgt the Chargers would be better this year and I wouldn't take them to cover untill I see it, and the Raiders are playing tough lately.

Ball St. -14.5
Pitt +2.5
Virginia Tech Pk
Florida -9.5
Missouri +16.5

Jaguars +7
Patriots -4
Panthers -3
Eagles +7.5
Ravens U35.5

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Rutgers -10

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Buffalo/Ball State over 61
Pittsburgh +3
USC -32
Arizona -10
East Carolina/Tulsa over 65

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What's your reasoning here, Nas?

The UNDER seems to be the play here, and the Raiders have scored 63 points in their last 7 games, and both teams are expected to run the ball a lot tonight, keeping that clock ticking.

SD line may be a little high as well considering they've lost 2 straight homes, and are just 4-8 now.

Final score prediction (looking to see how confident you are)....?

I agree with Nas. When two bad teams collide, the over looks tasty.

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Ball St (-15.5) over Buffalo
I've rode them this far, why stop now.

Alabama (+10) against Florida
It pains me to pick this since I can't stand Nick Saban, so I'm hoping Alabama covers but loses. I just don't think it's right that the supposed No. 1 team in the country is getting that many points. Florida has some injuries too.

Cincinnati (-7.5) over Hawaii
Although the Bearcats may feel like their on vacation, they still have work to do.

USC / UCLA (Over 46)
I'm trying it again this week with the over in a USC game.

Boston College (+1) against Virginia Tech
Since most everyone had the game as a pick 'em, I'll go with the team getting the point now (playing for the push).

Indianapolis (-13.5) over Cincinnati
Since it's indoors, the Colts should score at will against the Bengals.

Chicago (-6.5) over Jacksonville
I normally don't like playing the Bears game, but since it's under a tuddy, I'll take the Bears.

Washington (+5.5) against Baltimore
Not calling for the outright win, but the Redskins should at least keep it close.

NY Jets (-4) over San Francisco
A lot of travel for both teams these past couple weeks, but Favre gets the Jets back on track in this one.

Green Bay (-6) over Houston
It's going to be cold up there in GB, so I'll go with the Pack at home.

Pittsburgh +2.5 vs UConn- With Pitt's big win over West Virginia last week, I think keep the momentum going tomorrow.

Virginia Tech pick over Boston College- Both teams play defense, but with BC's starting quarterback out, will not put up a lot of points and I think Va Tech wins the ACC 2 straight years.

Oklahoma -16.5 vs Missouri- I would like to see Missouri win this one, but after the loss to Kansas and the way Okalahoma is playing offense, I don't even seeing this close.

Alabama +10 over Florida

Florida has been a moneymaker since their loss to Missisipi. I will take the pts with a team that hasn't lost yet. Nick Saban is one of the best and if anyone can put his team in a position to win this game it is him.

Ucla +32.5 over USC

Will take all these pts in a rivalry game.

Hawaii +7.5 over Cincy

Cincy locked into their bowl berth going to Hawaii for Hawaii's last home game. Gotta think Cincy not to sharp in paradise for this one.

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Pittsburgh @ Connecticut -2 1/2

Pitt-UConn features a pair of the nation's best running backs in LeSean McCoy and Donald Brown. UConn QB Tyler Lorenzen, playing his second game since returning from a broken foot.
UConn leads the all-time series 3-1, winning each of its two home games.

East Carolina @ Tulsa -11 1/2

Neither ESPN.com, Foxsports.com, or Cbssportsline.com have a preview for this game. What a joke. This is the C-USA championship game and Tulsa gets to play it at home? Tulsa is 2nd in the nation in scoring at 49 points a game. ECU is about half of that. The total is 65.

Navy @ Army +10 1/2

This is a timeless game, like before the forward pass was invented. Expect lots of grindy option plays on both sides of the ball. The Balck Knights keep it within double digits in Philly.

Boston College PK @ Virginia Tech

It's a rematch in the ACC title game as Boston College takes on Virginia Tech. And once again, the Hokies will be seeking revenge for a regular-season loss to the Eagles. At stake for BC and VT: a spot in the Orange Bowl vs. Cincinnati.

Washington +35 @ California

Yes, the Huskies are the college version of the Detroit Lions. And they almost won last week. There is no money line for this game on pinnaclesports.com, I take this as a good omen.

Alabama +10 @ Florida

It's being billed as the greatest conference championship game of all time. It'll be a clash of styles at Georgia Dome: the power of Alabama vs. the speed of Florida. All that's on the line for the Tide and Gators is a trip to the BCS title game.

USC -32 at UCLA

White jerserys, red jerseys whatever, this one will be ugly. Not only is UCLA No. 107 in scoring, but USC owns the No. 1 scoring defense, allowing just 7.8 points per game. The total is 46 1/2.

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Tulsa -12 Once a Holtz always a Holtz
Navy-11 Ground attack???? Too much for Army
Cal Bears -35.5 Washington blows
Florida-10 Saban gets it stuck to him
USC -32.5 I don't care what thay wear!
Oklahoma -17 BCS won't be screwed up by Missouri

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Conn -3 vs. Pitt
Wanny's boys made their season and got themselves a bowl last week with their win in the backyard brawl. Panthers could be flat as a pancake today.

Alabama +10 vs. Florida
Alabama-Florida OVER 52
Dog and over in the SEC. Going back to one of the old classic handicapping principles of college football: give me the better rushing team with points. Offenses usually rule in college football big games and I don't see either D shutting down either of these Os.

Oklahoma -16-1/2 vs. Mizzou
My only worry about this game is that OU gets way ahead and takes its foot off the gas and lets Mizzou in the back door. Mizzou way overrated earlier in the season and OU is the one team that could just give them an awful beatdown.

Army +10.5
Connecticut -2.5 (BetUS)
South Florida +7
Hawaii +7.5
East Carolina +12

(3-2 Saturday)

Jacksonville +6.5
Houston +6
Cleveland +14
Detroit +10
Washington +5
Philadelphia +6.5

(3-3 Sunday. Not my best weekend ever, but it's a hold serve, I guess.)

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WVA -7 - sorry S Fla, WVA can handle this


ASU over 49.5 - AZ high powered o and ASU can exchange body blows

hawaii over 48.5 - nobody likes to tackle in december


Troy-12 - AK state should get beat down here

Ill take Oklahoma -17

and the under at 78.5

Id look for the sooners to knock Chase Daniels out and win by like 35 going away

Bears -6.5 vs Jaguars- I don't see the Jags doing much and should get the Bears back on the winning end.

Texans +6 vs Pakcers- Would not be suprised if the Texans won, but they seem to have the offense going and right the Packers can't stop anybody.

Titans +14 vs Browns- This should be the easiest win all day, Browns down to third string QB and Titans go for the division.

Vikings -10 vs Lions- This game would have been close if the Vikings didn't have the Williams wall, but they do and Peterson will run all day.

Jets -3.5 vs 49ers- If the Jets want to be special in January they need to show people here and I think they will with a convincing win.

Dolphins +1 vs Bills- The dolphins caught a break that this game is inside, and keept the magical season going with a nice road win.

Cowboys +3 vs Steelers- The Cowboys need to show people they are for real and could do it with a nice show in Pittsburgh, but may struggle without Barber.

Patriots -6.5 vs Seahawks- Sounds like Hasselback will be out and look for Cassel to have another fine game, Seahawks just looking to next season.

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Bengals @ Colts -13 1/2

The Natty is a bad team filled with bad people, Colts act like a playoff team.

Jags @ Bears -6 1/2

Kyle is our quarterback.

Texans +6 @ Packers

GB defense too injured, it's the return of Matt Schwab!

Browns @ Titans -14

If Cleveland gets more than 5 points, it'll be a moral victory.

Vikings -10 @ Lions

Minnesota steamrolls the worst team in pro football.

Redskins @ Ravens -5

Welcome to the Joe Flacco era.

Eggles @ Giants -6 1/2

Only Neos huge spaceballs can stop the NY Football Giants. Whoa!

Falcons +3 @ Saints

Yet another rookie QB leads his team to the playoffs. ATL breaks the NFC South @ home trend.

Jets -3 1/2 @ 49ers

Brett Favre easily handles the coached up Niners.

Dolphins +1 @ Bills in Toronto

As a Bills fan I'm looking forward to the draft not the playoffs.

Chefs +9 1/2 @ Broncos

Denver is filled with a bunch of lousy bums. And the football team is no good either. Hey-ooo!

Rams +14 @ Cardinals

STL RB Jackson has a big game. AZ faces a severe pucker factor trying to wrap up the division.

Cowboys @ Steelers -3

Terrell Owens will get his head torn off. This isn't a home game vs. the Seagulls.

Patriots -6 1/2 @ Seahawks

Senaca Wallace can't keep Seattle within a TD.

Buccanners @ Panthers -3

Tampa is strong, but will find a way to botch this one.

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Green Bay -6

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Cincinnati/Indianapolis under 42

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