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Author:  Dignified Rube [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Del Mar Derby
This one might be more interesting to bet on than today's race. 16 horse field for 3 yr olds on turf.

Del Mar Derby (gr. IIT)
Del Mar, Sunday, September 04, 2016, Race 8

1 1/8m
Turf
$250,000
3 yo
5:33 PM (local)

PP Horse Jockey Wgt Trainer M/L
1 Gold Rush Dancer (CA) Flavien Prat 122 Vann Belvoir 8/1
2 Blackjackcat (KY) Mike E. Smith 122 Mark Glatt 8/1
3 Mr. Roary (KY) Edwin A. Maldonado 122 George Papaprodromou 30/1
4 Moonlight Drive (ITY) Rafael Bejarano 122 Bob Baffert 6/1
5 I'malreadythere (FL) Tiago Josue Pereira 122 Jerry Hollendorfer 20/1
6 Curlin Rules (KY) Tyler Baze 122 John W. Sadler 15/1
7 Arcature (KY) Martin Garcia 122 Simon Callaghan 20/1
8 Monster Bea (KY) Gary L. Stevens 122 Peter Miller 5/1
9 Dressed in Hermes (KY) Kent J. Desormeaux 122 Janet Armstrong 12/1
10 Trojan Nation (KY) Drayden Van Dyke 122 Patrick Gallagher 12/1
11 Free Rose (KY) Norberto Arroyo, Jr. 122 Richard Baltas 6/1
12 Lucky Bryan (KY) Victor Espinoza 122 John W. Sadler 9/2
13 Ralis (CA) Mario Gutierrez 122 Doug F. O'Neill 8/1
14 Diplodocus (KY) Jamie Theriot 122 Richard Baltas 30/1
15 Ebadan (IRE) Santiago Gonzalez 122 Neil D. Drysdale 20/1
16 Materialistic (KY) Ignacio Puglisi 122 Peter Eurton 30/1
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
This race has the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

The Good:

Gold Rush Dancer 8/1
Free Rose 6/1
Ralis 8/1
Mr. Roary 30/1

Like Free Rose to win. Has a good WP to back up his 6/1, but Gold Rush Dancer's is slightly higher.

Mr. Roary has the potential from a class standpoint and is proven at the distance but is inconsistent. But look at that price.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Lucky Bryan added 1/16th does the trick
Author:  Rod [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Gold Rush Dancer is the obvious thing in here. I'm thinking of taking a shot with Ralis who should be more than a fair price.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Gold Rush Dancer is the obvious thing in here. I'm thinking of taking a shot with Ralis who should be more than a fair price.

wyc Gold Rush Dancer is 8-1 an obvious thing at that price is more than fair :?:
Author:  Rod [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Gold Rush Dancer is the obvious thing in here. I'm thinking of taking a shot with Ralis who should be more than a fair price.

wyc Gold Rush Dancer is 8-1 an obvious thing at that price is more than fair :?:


There's no way Gold Rush Dancer is going to be 8/1 in there. I don't know who the monkey who makes that morning line is. Ralis is probably going to be double digit odds.
Author:  W_Z [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
TVG has Ralis in its circle...

1 - #2 Blackjackcat 8-1
2 - #6 Curlin Rules 15-1
3 - #13 Ralis 8-1

equibase points to trainer/jockey win stats for Ralis, likes the distance for Curlin and Blackjackcat.

might have to check this one out...it's intriguing.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
I think Monster Bea takes this one. I changed it from Free Rose after seeing the tape.

8 to win

8, 11, 1 exacta and tri-fecta box.
Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Anyone have the Pick 5 at Saratoga ? Pay offs: $2.0 EXACTA (9-3) Paid: $166.50 , $0.5 TRIFECTA (9-3-2) Paid: $236.75 , $0.1 SUPERFECTA (9-3-2-1) Paid: $122.90 , $2.0 PICK 3 (3-2-9) Paid: $3,172.00 , $1.0 PICK 4 (3-3,4,7,10-2-9) Paid: $31,536.00 , $1.0 PICK 5 (2-3-3,4,7,10-2-9) Paid: $1,121,406.50 , $2.0 DAILY DOUBLE (2-9) Paid: $614.00
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
I passed on this one today.

I'm looking at the Smarty Jones tomorrow. A good line-up in that one with no clear favorites.
Author:  Rod [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Walt Williams Neck wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Gold Rush Dancer is the obvious thing in here. I'm thinking of taking a shot with Ralis who should be more than a fair price.

wyc Gold Rush Dancer is 8-1 an obvious thing at that price is more than fair :?:


There's no way Gold Rush Dancer is going to be 8/1 in there. I don't know who the monkey who makes that morning line is. Ralis is probably going to be double digit odds.


I'm shocked they let Gold Rush Dancer off so high. Blackjackcat way over bet. Tough beat with Ralis.
Author:  W_Z [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Del Mar Derby
i watched but didn't bet. saw a horse i liked from previous races that did me good, and completely bottomed out yesterday at del mar so i didn't want to take another chance. lost a decent chunk on him.

but boy, i guess taking a chance on DR's original pick with free rose would've been a nice one.

made up some ground with the aussie races tonight. sometimes listening to the commentary gives you some insight into a pick. and gotta love those accents.
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