Steve Asmussen all day all night....Been doing this for 50 years saw lots of "systems" if one worked everyone would be using it

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Who are you to say, as someone that doesn't rely on math and wouldn't know a good model even if he had access to it, that there isn't one that works? You can speak only from your frame of reference, which is very limited.

What do you think the guys do at Citadel downtown or where I used to work at Allston, sit around and play solitaire all day?

Sunland Oaks Prison of Love.....it's not for me to say.....Johnny Mathis

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Here you go CHAMP pick a race card any model you'd like see how many winners they have on TOP it's easy it's math and you can use it until it justifies exsistence…..just as a small sample I haven't seen it do any good

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

The local track handicapper gentleman called it with the Pletcher horse. Good job.

Very fast time for 1 1/8 mi under 1:47 and a new track record at Sunland.

Wow, was really disappointed in how how Mucho Gusto ran. That ain't gonna get it done.

In Search of Another War Emblem

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I'll say this one time, Walt. In my most recent run, which has been a couple of months, my ROI has been 400% and as high as 600%. I banked 75% of the proceeds and started again.

So, yes, there are strategies and programs that work, when applied correctly. Patience and waiting for the right setups with odds is key. Being lucky doesn't hurt either.

How would you ever know what the fair-value of a horse is, if you you didn't use math? You do know that at least half of the single wagering bets for any race are losers a majority of the time, that is, not fair bets? It can be shown mathematically. So if you're taking these horses and many are at short odds, even if you win once or twice, over time you will lose and give it all back. The quants have an advantage, in that they know which bets are fair and have value and which don't. That is as long as the odds don't change much after post-time, which unfortunately does happen, causing distortions.

Mucho Gusto at 4-5 in the Sunland Derby was not a fair bet. Neither was War of Will at 1 in the Louisiana Derby. However, Core Beliefs at 9-1 in the New Orleans Handicap had odds more than twice its fair value.

ROI of 400% means the horse goes of 4-1 bfd

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Eddie Olczyk is the best handicapper I've seen, guy routinely gives out winners, if I were a horse guy.. I'd piggyback all his plays.

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