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Author:  Rod [ Wed May 04, 2022 6:02 am ]
Post subject:  Kentucky Oaks

I am 100% against Echo Zulu although it looks like she could shake loose on the lead and in today's racing the lead is just a HUGE advantage. I didn't like that they waited until the FG Oaks to start her this year. That suggests that something wasn't right. And I didn't like that race. Hidden Connection was going to catch her in one more jump. I question her ability to get the 9 panels and she resents the whip. But maybe that race was all she needed and she'll be better this time.

I'm also against Secret Oath, but I do think the morning line is kind of high. 6/1 or above is more than fair.

Kathleen O. is absolutely legit but as OTE points out in the Derby prep thread, sometimes those Gulfstream races don't translate. She can certainly win, but she's a play against for me.

I think Nest is the most likely winner, but there are some others that have chances nearly as good that will be much larger prices.

My tickets are going to be centered around Nostalgic, Venti Valentine, and Hidden Connection. And maybe a the Pletcher horse from Dubai.

Author:  W_Z [ Wed May 04, 2022 6:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

i'm in a pool again with a bunch of guys that are in line with your thinking although i think they like kathleen o. i'm going to make sure some of the tickets we have do include some of those "against" horses just in case though. i like nest and venti valentine.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Wed May 04, 2022 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Agree with Joe......in the Oaks why not Shahama? Undefeated and has the hottest Jock aboard....Oaks / Derby Double
Shahams with Zandon/Smile Happy

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 8:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Rise and shine, boys...1st post about an hour away...some early scratches, fog and mist but haven't seen track conditions yet

Let's make some money

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 8:29 am ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Rise and shine, boys...1st post about an hour away...some early scratches, fog and mist but haven't seen track conditions yet

Let's make some money

They said the track will start firm and fast pending any more rain.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Hit that 1st exacta to start the day :cheers:


Race 4 I think 7-JuJu's Map is going to get hammered at the window, but she's a 3 year old facing older competition and it's her 1st race of the year...look to the 5-Semble Juste, faced tougher last out at Keeneland and has raced here at Churchill 4 times, 2 wins, a second and 3rd...big value 10-1 m/l

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 9:51 am ]
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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Hit that 1st exacta to start the day :cheers:


Race 4 I think 7-JuJu's Map is going to get hammered at the window, but she's a 3 year old facing older competition and it's her 1st race of the year...look to the 5-Semble Juste, faced tougher last out at Keeneland and has raced here at Churchill 4 times, 2 wins, a second and 3rd...big value 10-1 m/l

I had a $1 Ex myself, congrats!!!

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Hit that 1st exacta to start the day :cheers:


Race 4 I think 7-JuJu's Map is going to get hammered at the window, but she's a 3 year old facing older competition and it's her 1st race of the year...look to the 5-Semble Juste, faced tougher last out at Keeneland and has raced here at Churchill 4 times, 2 wins, a second and 3rd...big value 10-1 m/l


Well she looked damn good...ran like a 1/2 horse...moving on

Looking ahead to race 10 I like the 13Whatmakessammyrun and the 9-Pyron...Prat jumps off the 13 to ride the 9, big field big prices

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 12:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Starting a spread Pick 5 ticket, keying on the 5-Olympiad here (5 tickets with the 5 horse singled, one ticket with 1.2.6 and 7), no intra race wagers

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Fri May 06, 2022 12:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

7th like Max Player and I had Olympiad last at FG not expecting her to finish today 1-2 exacta box...good look

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Race 8...three Chad Brown horses in this one...the 3, the 5 and the 8...the 3 and 5 are lockstep in the will-pays...not sure I see much separating them...I've keyed on the 5 and the 8 in this leg of my P5 (with one ticket 2.3.4.6.7,9)

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

so my remaining P5 ticket is 6,8/9,13/7,9...

Race 9 6,8/All

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 2:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
so my remaining P5 ticket is 6,8/9,13/7,4... corrected

Race 9 6,8/All

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
OscarTangoEcho wrote:
so my remaining P5 ticket is 6,8/9,13/7,4... corrected

Race 9 6,8/All

Nice call and still alive too!!!!

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
OscarTangoEcho wrote:

Looking ahead to race 10 I like the 13-Whatmakessammyrun and the 9-Pyron...Prat jumps off the 13 to ride the 9, big field big prices


still like very much

will pays show the 3 10 then 11 in order of preference...think it's wide open

throw the 6 in there as well...whoo, good luck...somebody's gonna get paid

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

trifecta $48
8, 9, 10, 13 / 3, 8, 9, 10, 13 / 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Huge field, huge prices in the next at Churchill...whatever your opinion, if you are right, you'll get paid

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:42 pm ]
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13-Whatmakessammyrun Don't sleep on this guy out of the west...struggled in a route at Del Mar last out, but two previous turf sprints were eye opening and has been working out just fine in the am...that being said, Prat jumps off him to a very logical choice, the 9
13-9 Exacta Box

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:44 pm ]
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My Guy Camps likes the 11.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Not a fan of the two favorites...jump into the pool if you like someone...waters just fine!!!!

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Not a fan of the two favorites...jump into the pool if you like someone...waters just fine!!!!

I did with Camps, and in the Exactas with the 1,3,7,10.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

I like the 11 as well, but have him shuffled back to Show...gonna be a great race

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Hawg Ass wrote:
OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Not a fan of the two favorites...jump into the pool if you like someone...waters just fine!!!!

I did with Camps, and in the Exactas with the 1,3,7,10.


See this is what's great, completely different approaches, both could pay...good luck!! (kinda half hearted, honestly)

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

I'm still going on the girl that I brought to the dance..7-Echo Zulu keyed in the trifecta with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 13

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 4:35 pm ]
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Good luck all, I am on the 1 with 2/4/7/10

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
I'm still going on the girl that I brought to the dance..7-Echo Zulu keyed in the trifecta with 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 13


*for $84

good luck Hawg!

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

tremendous value on the 6,8 9 and 13

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 4:59 pm ]
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Hawg Ass wrote:
Good luck all, I am on the 1 with 2/4/7/10


:salut:

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 06, 2022 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Hawg Ass wrote:
Good luck all, I am on the 1 with 2/4/7/10


:salut:

Alive to the 1,8,15 in the Oaks/Derby also.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 06, 2022 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kentucky Oaks

Outstanding. Well done!

Hopefully we'll get some more traffic here tomorrow

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