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Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Wed May 18, 2022 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Preakness

Is it all Epicenter on Saturday or can a newcomer like Early Voting take the black eyed susan's?

Author:  Rod [ Wed May 18, 2022 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

I am 100% against Epicenter. He got cakewalked to what should have been an easy win in the Derby and he couldn't finish it.

To me it comes down to whether Epicenter hooks up with Early Voting. If not, I think Early Voting wires the field. If Epicenter tries to press it could set up for the Saffie horse or Simplification.

Simplification is the wild card. If he pushes the pace, maybe Epicenter can sit and win. I think that would be a bad strategy for Simplification though.

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Wed May 18, 2022 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

What about the filly?

Author:  Rod [ Wed May 18, 2022 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Hawkeye Vince wrote:
What about the filly?



I don't like her here. She's as honest as they come and I think she'll throw that sustained middle move like she always does but I suspect it will turn out like it did the last time she faced colts and she won't just be able to bury the field the way she does against the fillies.

Author:  W_Z [ Wed May 18, 2022 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

And the heat. My God the heat.

That might benefit Simp.

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Thu May 19, 2022 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

If Simp was that much of a closer he would have cashed two weeks ago, I just don't think he's that much of a closer. Got a piece because he was ridden well and got into a positive position but didn't make up any ground on the leader over the last 1/4.

I just can't get behind him.

Author:  Rod [ Thu May 19, 2022 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Hawkeye Vince wrote:
If Simp was that much of a closer he would have cashed two weeks ago, I just don't think he's that much of a closer. Got a piece because he was ridden well and got into a positive position but didn't make up any ground on the leader over the last 1/4.

I just can't get behind him.


I think he's a pretty solid horse but just a step behind the best ones. I could see a scenario where he wins this race, but a lot would have to go right for him.

Author:  W_Z [ Thu May 19, 2022 10:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Two others I’m wondering about…creative minister and skippy.

Author:  Dignified Rube [ Thu May 19, 2022 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Creative Minister could pull off the upset. His last 1 1/16 mi. time two weeks ago at CD was pretty good. Made big improvement between 2nd and 3rd starts. Seems like a nice horse.

I don't know why you would take Epicenter over Early Voting. The Kentucky Derby was not the fastest race (though it had the exciting finish) and Early Voting comes in well rested. Chad Brown has the high win percentage of all the trainers here. I liked Early Voting in the Wood and will stick with him here. JORR's horse, Mo Donegal, barely got me by a nose. He's a son of Gun Runner.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

day off so ill be playing Pilmico today..Rube, if you like Gun Runners offspring look at the 11-Radio Days in the Black Eyed Susan...that race is going to have a wicked pace and I like her to come rolling late...Impressive 2nd at Keeneland last out...nice price, too

Author:  Hawkeye Vince [ Fri May 20, 2022 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Here's what I don't like about Creative Minister - coming off Lasix for this race.

Maybe I'm an old BDH but I never like the idea of a horse coming off Lasix because for some reason they don't racemas well.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Fri May 20, 2022 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

any thoughts on BES Day other than Bobby Flays horse being the lock of the day

Author:  Rod [ Fri May 20, 2022 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Walt Williams Neck wrote:
any thoughts on BES Day other than Bobby Flays horse being the lock of the day



Let's talk about Flay's horse. If she is so great why is she in this spot rather than a graded stakes? I am against her. Her figures don't stand out over this field. She'll probably be 1/5 and I think she's a really bad 1/5 shot.

I think the Murph has a big shot to wire that field and Vergara has a chance to win too.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

The horse you guys are talking about 4-Pizza Bianca is, I believe, headed to Ascot, thus the placement. I think she's going to be hard to beat, but will have the 8-Vergara and the 1-Determined Gold as well.

By the way, stay the fuck away from the Pick four at this place...takeout is over 25%...Pick 5 is half of that

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Statistically, from what I've gathered

Maker is strong at this track during this week, as is Javier Castellano in the irons...and Curlin's bloodlines are ridiculously succesful here in Maryland

Next Race race 4...4-Majestic Frontier out of Keen Ice (Curlin) currently sitting at 17-1...let's get started

Author:  Hawg Ass [ Fri May 20, 2022 12:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Statistically, from what I've gathered

Maker is strong at this track during this week, as is Javier Castellano in the irons...and Curlin's bloodlines are ridiculously succesful here in Maryland

Next Race race 4...4-Majestic Frontier out of Keen Ice (Curlin) currently sitting at 17-1...let's get started

Nice call, up for the Place.

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

:D $13.80 for Place

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Race 6 up next...the 2-Another Woman is getting waaaay overbet for a horse that hasn't raced in nearly a year

$2 Exacta 356/3567...the 6-Tweet again Robin is a very good value here ($5 WP 6)

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Race 6 up next...the 2-Another Woman is getting waaaay overbet for a horse that hasn't raced in nearly a year

$2 Exacta 356/3567...the 6-Tweet again Robin is a very good value here ($5 WP 6)


and I was waaaaay wrong

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 1:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Huge fan of the 11-Healing in the next race, but not at those odds...$3 WPS, PS and Show on both the 7-Johng and the 6-US Constitution (ridden by Castellano)

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

P6 here

1, 6 / 4 / 3, 5, 6 / 1, 2, 6, 10 / 1, 8 / 7, 9, 10, 11 $38.40

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

P5 1, 4, 8 / 3, 5, 6 / 1, 2, 10 / 1, 3, 8 / 7, 10, 11

Are they still doing the outhouse races here?

Author:  Rod [ Fri May 20, 2022 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

PK5:

7,8/1,4,5,6,8/1,3,10,11/1,8/1,7,9,13

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

You guys ever been to Pimlico?

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Race 10 Exacta box $15 3-Lady Scarlet (Maker) and 5-Saucy Lady T...pace melts down the favorite 6-Happy Soul

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
Race 10 Exacta box $15 3-Lady Scarlet (Maker) and 5-Saucy Lady T...pace melts down the favorite 6-Happy Soul


:23/:45 too fast

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Hanging on in the P5...trifecta Key box in the next race 11...love the 1 Phantom Vision with 2,6,10,12

P5 leg 1,2,10

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Nope

Author:  OscarTangoEcho [ Fri May 20, 2022 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

Like the the 8 here and the 5,7,11 to top off a trifecta in the BES

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Fri May 20, 2022 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Preakness

OscarTangoEcho wrote:
The horse you guys are talking about 4-Pizza Bianca is, I believe, headed to Ascot, thus the placement. I think she's going to be hard to beat, but will have the 8-Vergara and the 1-Determined Gold as well.

By the way, stay the fuck away from the Pick four at this place...takeout is over 25%...Pick 5 is half of that


Meaning to comment on this ....you know the track takes 100% of my pick 4 and 5 bets

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