This weekly wagering contest will reward the best football prognosticator with a $100 gift certificate from a meat/steak company. New guys can still join in any time and you don't have to make a pick every week. You can post your plays any time, but they must be posted before a game you are playing kicks off. You must make your picks in this thread and you must provide at least one reason for each pick.

The winner will be the guy with the best record after the NFL regular season and college bowl games are concluded. You must have at least 50 picks by season's end to win the prize. Please use and post the prevailing lines at the time of your picks from one of the two largest offshore casinos: thegreek.com or pinnaclesports.com.

Overall, the board was 46-42 (52%) last week. For the year, the board is 378-372 (50%).

................................Last Week......................Season........................... %
Not in the Biz.............. 1-0 ..............................8-3.............................. 73
Doug........................... 0-0.............................. 6-4-2.......................... 60
Bud Dude.................... 5-4..............................35-28-2........................56
Hawkeye Vince.............2-5.............................. 26-22..........................54
Coast...........................9-3-1.............................58-50-4......................54
donspiracy.................. 7-6-1............................ 47-43-2......................52
Chus............................4-11..............................46-43-3......................52
sabu............................0-1.............................. 15-15-1.......................50
Rocks and Blows........ ..0-0........................... ..19-18-2.......................51
Mr. Belvidere ............. 0-0.................................5-5.............................50
the gooch....................1-0 .............................. 16-16..........................50
Matt Murton’s Beard.... 1-0.............................. 17-17-1.......................50
Good dolphin.............. .1-0............................ 16-20.............................44
reents..........................12-7...........................47-59-2.........................44
Mitch Cumstein...............2-5.............................13-21............................38
BD................................1-0.............................3-6.................................33
Woodridge Ryan......... 0-0............................... 1-2..............................33

Penn State -17 vs. Michigan State
Buying it early because it will likely be 20 or 21 by Saturday. Michigan State is DONE. Actually, they were done 7 weeks ago after the ND game. I said after the ND game that if you would bet against MSU every single week, you would make $$. Since that day, MSU is 0-7 ATS. Too bad I didn't take my own advice and go against them every darn week. The kids just want to be done with this season. Coach Smith has been fired and he isn't even showing up for his weekly press conferences. Penn State on the other hand, would like to cap off a decent season with a warm bowl game...and a nice W here would seal that. I really don't think this one will be close. A motivated team with a strong defense against an unmotivated team with no defense. I don't proclaim "GOY" or anything like that...but I'm taking a little more sugar to the window for this one. 45-7.

That Pen St game has jumped out at me also. I agree line will most likely go up by Sat. Hope it comes in for you.

Ball State +4.5
Two pretty evenly matched teams here. Toledo has been blown out a couple of times at home. The line has moved from 3 to 4.5, so the public likes Toledo, I will go the other way.

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Take my horrbile picks from last week away, and the rest of you on the board did pretty well.

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Ohio -4.5
Back to the MAC. Ohio has a solid defense and is looking to lock up a spot in the MAC championship game. They have won on the road at NIU and Kent State, and are riding a 5 game winning streak. Akron has lost 4 games in a row.

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Wake Forest +2 versus Virginia Tech

How many times is Wake Forest going to have to win straight up before people believe in them. A two point dog at home is an absolute insult. You can check my previous posts on this year's odd lines for traditionally bad programs who are playing well this year (Rutgers and Wake specifically). The only time I remember crapping out on one of these games was when Missouri fumbled the ball 5+ times against TAM to lose. Forget the incredibly stupid public and pound Wake this week.

Ohio State -6.5 versus Michigan

In most years there are only a few teams that really deserve to be champions. While there are several undefeateds or nearly undefeateds there is usually a small group that are clearly far superior to even the best teams. This year there is only one and that is OSU. I know rivaly game, 1 v. 2. I just don't see Michigan as being up to the level of OSU. I see this one as being within a touchdown for three quarters but ending up with OSU a double digit victor.

Pitt +11 versus West Virginia AND
Over 53

Let's see, big rivalry game, check...home dog, check... a dog that can move the football, check....and a big favorite that plays below average defense, check. Does this sound like an 11 point game to you? Now I love to bash Wannie as much as the next guy but he has put together a nice season. He has a veteran QB who will be a pro some day and a good, balanced offense. Last time we saw WV D they were doing a great impression of swiss cheese against Louisville. Now WV will move the ball all day on O against a horrible Pitt run D. However, they will never be able to run away and hide in this game. In fact, thinking about it more, put me down for the over on this one as well. Thinking about it even more, TAKE THE OVER VERY VERY HARD. This one is going to be a 42-34 type of game.

Cincinnatti +7 versus Rutgers

I have been on the Rutgers train most of the year. This is a week to hop off. Rutgers is coming off a huge emotional victory and coming against a team that can stop the run. This is yet another home dog, which means it is a good weekend to clean up.

Northwestern +2.5 versus Illinois

Another home dog in another rivalry game. I have not seen anything over the past few weeks that would show there is a big enough difference in these teams for this game to be anything less than a pick em. I think if you put equal money this weekend on all the home dogs you will earn yourself some dough.

Indiana +10 at Purdue

Purdue is a dog. They clean up against bad competition and play overly competitve games with the dregs of the big ten. Guess what? Indiana is not the dregs this year. I like Indiana to win this one straight up.

Virginia +3 versus Miami

I am willing to pile on a team when it is down. Miami used to be a team that would take pride in it's thuggery. They are no longer talented enough to be so full of pride. This is the year where all the little guys get their revenge on the Canes. Virginia should have beaten Miami in the Orange Bowl last year. Now Virginia takes a straight up win at home. Another of my home dog specials this week.

Cleveland +3.5 versus Pittsburgh

Another home dog. The Steelers went in and whipped Cleveland 41-0 at the end of last year. Browns players seem to have taken it personally. The Browns have some nice weapons in the pass game, which happens to be the weakness of the Pittsburgh D. At the same time, Cleveland is playing inspired D this year. I don't know what god they are praying to but the Cleveland DB has been solid.

Baltimore -4 versus Atlanta

Atlanta is banged up at just about every position on D. Their Offense has returned to normalcy after a mid year boom. Now comes a D that is good enough to shut down Atlanta run game and fast enough to match up with Vick. Meanwhile, Baltimore is opening up its O a little more since Billick took over the reigns. I love this game and would take it hard

Packers +6 versus Patriots

Somebody must not be watching their football this year. The Patriot D has been very giving this year, especially against the pass. Meanwhile the Pack has been playing well on D and Favre is not turning the ball over. Lambeau is a tough place to play and this line is an absolute joke. THIS ONE IS A LOCK

Arizona-Detroit over 45.5

Will there be a defensive stop in this game. I would not be shocked to see 600 yards of combined offense through the air in this one.

Jaguars -3.5 versus Giants

The Giants had a valiant half of football against the Bears. I think the fatigue of all those injuries shows itself this weekend.

[b]CHICAGO vs. NYJ over 37.5 [b]

Bears will run the ball all day and open up a good play action passing game for Grossman. But the Jets have stayed close in all but 1 game this year and the total has gone over in last 5 at home for Jets.

Well Ive been on a cold streak lately, hopefully I can turn it around this weekend and keep my legs from being broken


As an aside, if you are an offshore and they give oscar odds, take Al Gore to win best documentary

NIU +3' v. Cent Mich U. - Well this is a look on how Northen is not as bad as they seem. NIU have dropped 3 of their last 4 (and the win was over Temple, which is a program that is really messed up). CMU has been a relative surprise in the MAC (winning 7 of their last 8 [including an impressive drubbing of WMU in the rain and wind] CMU has clinched the west already. NIU has nothing but pride left to play for at home. They are better than a 5 and 5 team here. Horvath was put on the bench and the Brother Rice product Nicholson could be back QBing the team (as a Fresh he beat Toledo). I think NIU shrugs off this string of poor performance and takes one for the home team on senior day. Ill take the points and the will to win one for the home team on what looks to be an epilogue for NIUs relative success over the last 3 years.

USF v. Louisville over 54- Louisville has decided to show the world how their defense has no interest in tackling anyone. USF has up trended their offensive production and has a balanced offense. Louisville has shown the ability to put up the points, over comes in.

NC State -3' @ North Carolina- The rivarly game has to be the reason for the low number. Will the tarheel step up for lame duck coach Bunting and hated NC State. I dont think so. Wolfpack have dropped 5 in a row, by 2, 6, 7, 8 and 6 points repectively (against Wake, Maryland, Virginia, GT and Clemson). North Carolina has dreams about being 60 percent as good as any of those teams. Wolfpack (this is a game where the rivarly game factor will screw you, but when you look at the teams you just have to take the road chalk (this is a great tactic to lose large sums of kwan) but you gotta take NC State here).

Oklahoma -20' @ Baylor- I know I sound like a broken record. The loss of Peterson is not that bad. Impressive win by 1 over A&M and handling of Texas Tech once again proved the Oklahoma D adage. Baylor is coming off of a drubbing from Ok State. and losing by 34 to Texas Tech. The number is huge, but Oklahoma is trying to establish themsevles as the best 2 loss team in the running. theyll need to house Baylor on senior day to show the pollsters and scribes that they are the best 2 loss team, Im pretty sure they will.

Wash v. Wash State over 43'- tell yourself its a rivarly game and should be hard fought. Then remind yourself that this is the PAC 10 and the battle for the Apple Cup. Wash state D has been increasing the number of points they give up (23, down to 15, up to 27, up to 47) over the last 4 games. Wash has been really down trend on their O (24, 23, 14 and 3) over their last 4. Wash State is the number 1 passing team in the Pac 10, Washington is the second to worst pass D in the Pac 10 (232 ypg given up), the worst pass D in the pac 10....you got it Wash State (240.5 ypg). Over city


Miami -2' @ Virginia- will the canes drop 4 in a row. Nope. Virgina shut out by FSU 33- 0 when we last saw them. here is the Virginia Offense in the last 4 games- (26 points,23 points, 14 and 0) this is a downward trend. the 26 points was v. Maryland (impressive) the 23 was against NC (not that impressive). Miami D shut out FIU (and showed that the helmet can be used as a bludgeon), gave 15 to Duke, 30 to GT, 17 to VT and 14 to Maryland (losing by 1). Ill give the points on the road and say Coker rights the ship and takes the Canes over the recent deaths, arrests, and whatever the hell else is going on in that program.

Sj state +24 @ Hawaii- sometimes you make one of those late night saturday plays. Heres one. Hawaii has a screaming offense that racks up the yards and the points (they avg 48 points per game) Sj state avegaes 21. Hawaii avg 542 ypg, D gives up 399. The value in this play lay in the fact that SJ State has the best Pass D in the WAC giving up 186 yards per game and has 9 picks to only 12 passing TDs given up. San Jose has a balanced offensive attack as well. SJs O avg 21 points per game. SJ state loses, but doesnt get housed. Good value here, (See APs recent write up on how the nation doesnt know how good Hawaii is)- well until they play a team with some semblance of Defense in a bowl game, then we will find out.

Cincinnati vs. New Orleans over 51
I know that the total is inflated due to the offense outbursts last week by these teams, but neither team has been playing any D lately. Brees and Palmer will both throw for more than 300 yards apiece.

St Louis vs. Carolina over 44
Another offensive fireworks show. The Rams don't play much defense. Bulger and Holt look to rebound from a poor game last week. Stephen Jackson will go wild once again. I see both teams easily approaching 30.

Indianapolis -1
I'm gonna roll with the ponies until they lose. The loss of Greg Ellis will hurt the Cowboys D. Goober and the boys should have no problem moving the ball.

Oakland +10
The Raiders have actually been playing well as of late. Trent Green returns but he will be rusty. Oakland has a good run defense, and should keep this one close.

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U of Pittsburgh +11
I hate to ever take a Wanny coached team, but Pitt has a QB will be playing on Sundays and they should be able to move the ball against WV's defense. Combine that with bad weather, and the Panthers should keep it close.

Indiana +12 vs. Purdue
Big rivalry game and Indiana can go to a bowl with a win. Both teams are even talent wise, so I will roll with the double digit points.

Wake Forest +1.5
The Deacons are still not getting respect. VT's offensive line is banged up, and the offense has been inconsistent all year. I'm gonna take the points with the better team.

Chicago Bears -7
The Jets are improved this year, but I think the Bears offense will have no trouble moving the ball, especially if Bradley can step up again and be a deep threat. Da Bears should get after Pennington and make it a long day for him and the offense.

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michigan vs. ohio state UNDER 40 1/2 and OSU cover the 7

Dont know alot about college football, but these two defenses are great and both can control the clock on offense. I think only a few touchdowns will be scored in a 21-13 like game. Each team has been under the majority of the season.

CINCI VS. NO OVER 51

Both teams are averaging around 25 ppg and giving up over 20. Combined they have gone over in 11 of the last 14 with neither team playing any D.

A Shocker here for Thursday

Pittsburgh +10 vs West Virginia- I know West Virginia probably feels rejunivated right now after Louisville's loss, but this is a rivarly game. Tyler Palko hasn't played well lately, but the Panthers looked decent early and being at home, look for Pitt to bring it all night long.

Idaho + 12 @ Fresno State
Fresno State is the living example of a soft favorite....a bad 2-7 team laying double digits. Here we have two bad defenses hooking up here. Both of these defenses rank in the bottom 20 in the nation. Statistically, Fresno is a better running team and Idaho a better passing team. But statistics don’t tell the story of how badly the Fresno quarterbacks have performed this year. But there is one statistic that speaks to the value I see in this number. By my numbers, Fresno has been over-valued most of the season and their 0-9 ATS record makes a case for that as well. With just two wins, this Fresno team doesn’t appear to know how to win games, let alone cover double digit point spreads. I will play the value as I find it.

Indiana +12-1/2 @ Purdue
Purdue is another soft favorite. The Boilers are a 7-4 team, but they have beaten ZERO opponents with a winning record. They have beaten 7 teams with losing records and here they are laying double digits to their intra-state rival who is very comparable to them in many ways. Purdue may have a better passing offense, but not significantly better. Both teams will have success moving the ball through the air. Neither defense is very good, but Purdue ranks last in the league in rush defense and total defense and 9th in pass defense. This presents a sizable opportunity to the somewhat more balanced IU offense. And based on their coaching achievements, I have to give a decided edge on the sidelines to Hoosiers Coach Hoeppner over perennial underachiever Cowboy Joe Tiller. Finally, while both defenses are bad, Purdue’s defense is overall, the worst in the Big Ten. I’ll take the generous double digit points against the worst defense in the conference. I think this high-scoring game goes to the wire.

Miami – 3-1/2 vs. Minnesota
This is something of a momentum play as we have two teams going in opposite directions. I’ve been on Miami the last two weeks since they came off their bye. Just as was the case last year, they have looked like a totally different team in the 2nd half of the season. The Fins’ running game has generated over 100 ypg in recent weeks and Joey Harrington has found his sea legs after struggling for the first few weeks after he took over for Culpepper. Minnesota’s lack of any kind of downfield passing game has made their offense very predictable. Miami is stout against the run and Minny and its Chester Taylor-led running game will have a hard time moving the ball against this charged up Dolphins defense, which is currently ranked #2 in total defense.

New Orleans - 3, -118 vs. Cincinnati
Here is another situational play against a team that I believe is now DONE for the season, the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals have lost 5 of their last 6, but it was last week’s game that I think has cooked them for this season. Teams that blow 28-7 leads, like Cincy did last Sunday vs. San Diego, usually don’t have much mojo the next week. On the other hand, New Orleans has gone 3-1 at home and is coming home off two road games, a road loss last week and two losses in its last three games. I expect New Orleans to be fully focused on this one as the team is now smelling a possible playoff big. New Orleans’ offense has been outstanding this year and now boasts the league’s most productive pass offense and the #3 ranked offense overall. Drew Brees is on his way to the Pro Bowl and he’ll likely bring at least one of his receivers (Colston) with him. The Saints run game has speed outside with Bush and power inside with McAllister. The Cincy defense (28th overall; 23rd against the run and 28th against the pass) will be hard pressed to stop any of it.

Va Tech pk @ Wake Forest- Va Tech needs this game and Wake Forest's luck is going to catch uip to them. I think Va tech has gotten their act together for a late season run.

Maryland + 8 @ BC- BC will still win this game but this game will be close. I don't see BC wining by more than a TD. These teams are basically equal but the home field gives BC about a 3 point advantage.

BC vs. maryland over 41.5- Both teams can score points I think that to win this game BC wil need to score at least twenty four points because BC's D is weak.

bears -7 @ jets- Again the bears have to answer more questions and like the did last week against the gmen they will destroy the jets. The jets are coming off a big win at New England and are not going to be ready for the bears. The bears will take care of business for the second time in the medowlands. The jets are worse than the giants as well.

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BYU -27.5
Not a big fan of laying this much wood, but the Cougars are 9-0-1 ATS and can lock up the MWC with a win. BYU should have no problem throwing all over the field and might score 50.

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Auburn -3
Value play here. The line here would be higher if not for the whippin Auburn took last week against Georgia. Auburn is the superior team laying only a field goal.

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Tennessee -7.5 @ Vanderbilt
Tennessee is a much better team and can still end up in a nice bowl game. Vanderbilt is done and has nothing left in the tank after their SEC schedule. Vols roll.

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Army +28.5 vs. ND...
ND should kill Army but that's a lot of points...

Michigan +7 vs. OSU
close game i think...4 points or less. late TD by Michigan.

Illinois -2.5 vs. Northwestern
Juice runs all over the NU D. Illinois wins by 5.

Colts +1 vs. Cowboys
Is this even correct? Colts win by at least ten...

Bears -6.5 vs. Jets
Bears D big against the run....Rex has decent day. Thomas runs all day long.

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Well, we've been in a tailspin the last few weeks. Time to get back in the win column.

Connecticut +1 @ Syracuse: Connecticut showed they still had life last week by surprising Pitt 46-45. This season the Huskies have losess to all the good teams on the schedule and win the ones they should. If they win 2 of their last 3, they are going bowling again and this is incentive enough.

Oregon State -14.5 @ Stanford AND UNDER 42: Stanford had their one shining moment last week against WSU. OSU should dominate this game from the get go and shutdown an offense that averages 10 pts per game.

Iowa @ Minnesota -2.5: Iowa has looked listless the past few weeks and the offense has struggled on the road. Minnesota has found a semblance of offense the last two weeks and has played well at home this year. Even though Iowa has owned Minnesota over the last 5 years, this might be the year the Pig goes back to Minneapolis.

Updated for late games

Nevada -16.5 @ La Tech:
Nevada has been hot lately and La Tech has not. Nevada has been averaging 40+ in their last three and giving up under 10. La Tech is the opposite, scoring 20 and giving up 45. Nevada is also 9-1 ATS this year.

BTW: I am kicking myself for not jumping on the KU and UA bandwagons earlier - I had them both written out and couldn't commit. P***Y

Let's get this started.

Wake Forest +1 vs Virginia Tech- You thought Wake would fall off after controlling Clemson except for the last quarter and a half. The Deacons haven't and Wake playing great ball and are looking forward to the ACC title game.

Illinois -2.5 vs Northwestern- Except for the turnovers last week, ILL has played good lately and for Grabbo's last game bring a win.

Rutgers -6 vs Cincinnati- I do beleive in RUtgers and feel they should take this one running away. Rice and Leonard combine for over 300 yards rushing.

Iowa +2.5 vs Minnesota- Minnesota has looked bad this year and their last 2 wins over IU and MSU, but Iowa plays well at Minnesota and should this year.

Alabama +3 vs Auburn- Auburn too me hasn't well since South Carolina took them to the end, I am not a big fan of their quarterback Brandon Cox and Bam has lost 5 straight, at Bama I love the Tide.

Calilforinia +6 vs USC- Cal is coming off a bad loss, but if they want a Pac-10 title, have to win this game and if Cal doesn't want the Holiday Bowl better win, USC can be stopeed and I think does it enough in this game.

THE BIG ONE Ohio State +7 vs Michigan- I know Michigan will be playing with more emotion after the loss of BO, but I think OHio State is the best team since week 1 and I say the Buckeyes 31-17.

Let me call your bookie if I can get OSU +7

lines from the greek at 10 this morning

Texas Tech -6.5 over Oklahoma St

Tech is back home after going on the road and losing at Oklahoma while Ok St takes to the road after destroying Baylor last week. I think there is some good value in this line based on those results from last week. I think Tech should be a 10pt fav so laying less than 7 looks good to me. This is Tech's last game while OkSt still has Oklahoma next week. Tech has been good in their last home game going 17-3 ATS. I see a 45-28 Tech win today.

Maryland +8 over Bost Coll

Maryland has played right with their opponents over the last 7 games as the biggest margin of victory in any of those games has been 6 pts. Two weeks ago Maryland went into Death Valley and as a 19 pt dog got the SU victory. Not sure if Maryland gets the SU today but I think getting 8 is good value. This is BC's last home game but they have a big one in 5 days against Miami so possibly not 100% focus on this one today.

Cincy +6.5 over Rutgers

Rutgers has had everyone tell them how great they are for over a week. Now they have to play a game on the road as a fav. As a road fav they are 0-4 ATS. This year they went to SFla and won by 2 as a 4 pt fav. Cincy in their last home game of the year should be sky high. I think this one goes down to the wire tonite, a FG difference is what I am looking for.

Week 12 The End of an Era

Iowa +3 @ Minnesota (53 1/2)

Drew Tate will play better indoors.
Lots of offense, hold the D. Over.
Iowa 27 Minne. 28

UConn +1 @ Syracuse (41)

Huskies will blow up the bad Orange.
Another indoor game. Over.
UConn 24 'Cuse 20

Maryland +7 1/2 @ Boston College (42 1/2)

'Terps will hang around and tip the total.
BC may score 40 on their own. Over.
Maryland 21 BC 28

Michigan St. @ Penn St. -18 1/2 (44 1/2)

Good riddance you lousy bum JohnLSmith!
Spartans aren't exactly in this one. Under.
Mich. St. 0 Penn St. 19

Oklahoma -20 1/2 @ Baylor (52)

Sooners beat up weak Baylor team.
I see garbage time TD's. Over.
Oklahoma 37 Baylor 16

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Ohio St. -7 vs. Michigan:
I expect both teams to struggle on the ground today, and will have to use the pass to set up the run which means Troy Smith, who has had great success vs. the Wolverines, will be throwing the ball to Gonzalez/Ginn all day long. I think that trio is too much even for a good defense like Michigan. I also like the coaching edge here for Ohio St. Tressel has been great vs. Michigan, and they are at home today as well. Finally, Chad Henne is too inconsistent, and he'll make mistakes today vs. a great Ohio St. offense.

Buckeyes rolll 31-13.

LIONS vs. CARDINALS over 45.5

My picks recently have sucked as much as this game will. Both D's suck, Lions have been moving the ball and the Cards will be able to pass the ball and Lions have gone over on all road games this year and zona has in 4 of last 6 at home.

NEW ENGLAND +5.5

NE has looked great on the road this year, no way they lose 3 in a row as an average NFC North team will be exploited at home by the Pats once again. Pats 6-1 ATS on the road and Packers are to young on the O-line.

Atlanta @ Baltimore over 41
Tennessee @ Philadelphia over 43.5
Seattle -3

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After a bad yesterday and yes Ohio State was -7 not +7 like I put.

Bengals and Saints over 51- This game has all the makings of a score fest, with the Bengals offense exploding last week and the Saints D' playing it's worst game of the year last and we know what the Saints O' and the Bengals D can do.

Steelers -4 vs Browns- I know the Browns are playing well right now, but the Steelers may have turned the corner last week. Willie Parker will run wild today.

Falcons +3.5 vs Ravens- The Ravens are without Lewis and the teams they beat usually keep it close and the Falcons may need this win a little more.

Bills +3 vs Texans- One of the dog games today, but the Bills played well last week and should have beaten the Colts and the Texans only play well against the Jaguars.

Packers +5.5 vs Patriots- I like the way the Packers have been playing lately and this could be a game were we think the Patriots are done, but win and when that happens they win by a field goal.

Redskins +3 vs Buccanneers- The Redskins are starting a new quarterback in Campbell and with Betts going, there has been talk that the Redskins O is a better fit with Betts and the Buccanneers don't have much offense.

Cowboys -1 vs Colts- The Cowboys have a better than average defense and should be able to run the ball over the Colts and when they need to pass, well the Cowboys have a T.O.

49ers +3 vs Seahawks- The 49ers are a quiet 4-5 and the Seahawks do get their 2 good players back today, but how will they play after a couple of weeks off and the Seahawks don't blow out the 49ers at San Francisco a lot.