The usual suspects I'm going for Competitive Edge ...set a track record on Derby Day...in the Pat Day Mile
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Mon May 11, 2015 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Preakness |
The usual suspects I'm going for Competitive Edge ...set a track record on Derby Day...in the Pat Day Mile
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon May 11, 2015 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Walt Williams Neck wrote: The usual suspects I'm going for Competitive Edge ...set a track record on Derby Day...in the Pat Day Mile Are we sure he's going in there? |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Mon May 11, 2015 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
This then the Met Mile from what I hear |
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| Author: | Buster [ Tue May 12, 2015 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
LCJ is reporting they expect one Pletcher or none . |
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| Author: | Buster [ Tue May 12, 2015 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
and just like that it is now being reported no Pletcher in Preakness |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue May 12, 2015 8:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Buster wrote: and just like that it is now being reported no Pletcher in Preakness No Materiality? |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Tue May 12, 2015 9:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/zatt/Ten_Fantastic_Editions_of_the_Preakness_Steakes_123 |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue May 12, 2015 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Buster wrote: and just like that it is now being reported no Pletcher in Preakness @NotTheToddster is a hilarious Twitter follow if you're a race fan. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue May 12, 2015 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
The Sunday Silence/Easy Goer race still gives me chills. That had to be one of the 3-4 memorable races I ever saw. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Tue May 12, 2015 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Only 7 look to be going in the Preakness American Pharoah Firing Line Dortmund Tale of the Verve Danzig Moon Divining Rod Bodhisattva |
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| Author: | Hussra [ Tue May 12, 2015 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Only 7 horses? How am I supposed to wager 37 'fectas and not hit this time?  
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue May 12, 2015 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
spmack wrote: Only 7 look to be going in the Preakness American Pharoah Firing Line Dortmund Tale of the Verve Danzig Moon Divining Rod Bodhisattva Disappointing but always seems to happen in the Preakness |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Tue May 12, 2015 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
What are the thoughts of the horseplayers here about allowing horses to skip certain Triple Crown races but not others? I seem to recall there were some bitter grapes after the Belmont last year, but the specifics are fuzzy, and I'm inherently too lazy to look it up. I do remember that the mantra "that's the way it's always been" was trotted (horse pun) out. But I'd like to read the insights of what you guys think. Is that fair to allow a horse to run the Kentucky Derby, skip the Preakness, and then run at Belmont? |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Ed_from_Lisle wrote: What are the thoughts of the horseplayers here about allowing horses to skip certain Triple Crown races but not others? I seem to recall there were some bitter grapes after the Belmont last year, but the specifics are fuzzy, and I'm inherently too lazy to look it up. I do remember that the mantra "that's the way it's always been" was trotted (horse pun) out. But I'd like to read the insights of what you guys think. Is that fair to allow a horse to run the Kentucky Derby, skip the Preakness, and then run at Belmont? They're all separate races. How could you force a horse to race in all of them? It's demanding as it is. Many of them can't possibly make all three. That shit with California Chrome was just the mad rantings of a drunken goof whose horse got beat fair and square. It's not easy. That's the point. |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
There are horses for courses and the reality is that the Derby can kick a horses ass with the number of horses and traffic trouble. The Preakness runs on a tight course that plays heavily to speed. Deep closers rarely have a shot. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: They're all separate races. How could you force a horse to race in all of them? I wasn't saying to force horses to run every race for which they're eligible for the rest of the year. I was playing devil's advocate from a Triple Crown perspective. I get it that if horses were forced to run all 3, the Belmont might only have 2 or 3 horses because of injuries/ailments. Thanks for the feedback, JORR and Vince. |
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| Author: | Buster [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
California Chrome's owner is a moron. A short field for the Preakness is not the norm |
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| Author: | spmack [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
This will probably be the easiest Top 3 in a while....You could do a Trifecta key bet with American Pharoah winning, and hoping that whomever is the higher odds ,probably Dortmund, will come in second, with Firing Line in 3rd. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
spmack wrote: This will probably be the easiest Top 3 in a while....You could do a Trifecta key bet with American Pharoah winning, and hoping that whomever is the higher odds ,probably Dortmund, will come in second, with Firing Line in 3rd. You're not suddenly giving up on Dortmund after your torrid spring love affair, are you? I like the big guy in this one. |
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| Author: | Buster [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Dortmund's chance is regression from the chalk and the there being something to possibility Firing Line has a physical issue |
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| Author: | spmack [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: spmack wrote: This will probably be the easiest Top 3 in a while....You could do a Trifecta key bet with American Pharoah winning, and hoping that whomever is the higher odds ,probably Dortmund, will come in second, with Firing Line in 3rd. You're not suddenly giving up on Dortmund after your torrid spring love affair, are you? I like the big guy in this one. I started the hashtag #DortmundsRevenge on Twitter. I'm not giving up yet. Thinking he can do a Oxbow-like wire to wire win. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Buster wrote: Dortmund's chance is regression from the chalk and the there being something to possibility Firing Line has a physical issue I think the Derby was tougher on Firing Line than the other two. I didn't care for the way he was weaving late. |
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| Author: | Buster [ Tue May 12, 2015 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
he didn't change leads the way he should have usually that is the sign of something wrong or something going wrong of course someone could just say it's nothing it all depends on what line of thinking you want to take |
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| Author: | Walt Williams Neck [ Wed May 13, 2015 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Horse I liked in the Derby and Preakness don't run 
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed May 13, 2015 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Mr. Z might get sold to Calumet Farms today, and if so, will run in the Preakness. |
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| Author: | spmack [ Wed May 13, 2015 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
Hot off the presses.  Martin Garcia is gonna wipe out AP right at the start. #DortmundsRevenge |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 13, 2015 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
I doubt Lukas is worried about his relationship with Zayat. He's probably too old to give a shit. I wouldn't be surprised to see Mr. Z laying all over AP. And that fucker can't steer straight. I expect Dortmund to sit right behind the leaders this time. |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Wed May 13, 2015 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
spmack wrote: Hot off the presses. Martin Garcia is gonna wipe out AP right at the start. #DortmundsRevenge I knew the odds would be complete shit, but 4/5 on American Pharoah is a stretch. Too bad you can't play the field against the favorite without it being too expensive. Is there a way to calculate the probability of winning just off the odds or no? This might be one of the few races where the lowest odds horses are all the best 1,2,3. No reason to play any other horses. I do like Firing Line to win at 4-1. Curious what you're thinking on the odds Joe Orr R.R.? |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Wed May 13, 2015 6:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
What do you make if you just did a 1,2,8 box? |
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| Author: | Dignified Rube [ Wed May 13, 2015 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Preakness |
pittmike wrote: What do you make if you just did a 1,2,8 box? Little bit better than 10-1 on your money without the box compared to 100-1 on hitting the trifecta at the Derby for a $1 bet. With the box you would have to substract the added cost of the box from the return. $6 for the trifecta box (for a $1 bet) to get a $10 return. I think it's a 5-3 return on your money approximately or almost 2-1. |
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