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Got $100 says my guy Abreu has a better OPS for the season. Minimum 400 PA for each player. Wager open to VERIFIED posters only.

IN ops bet.

I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury.

Whatever PA is needed to qualify for batting title. If that's included in OPS bet then I'm in

IN ops bet.

I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury.

Not doing WAR though. WAR kind of sucks as a statistic.

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

IMU wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B.

There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

IMU wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B.

bigfan wrote:

There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now.

IMU wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

IMU wrote:

So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree!

I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

bigfan wrote:

There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now.

Right ,

Just admit you walked into your own poop on that one.

bigfan wrote:

There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:02 pm ]
Post subject:	RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
I will let the Sox faithful offer some up first. Expect lotsa pruning here.

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Got $100 says my guy Abreu has a better OPS for the season. Minimum 400 PA for each player. Wager open to VERIFIED posters only.

Author:	Brick [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
FavreFan wrote: Got $100 says my guy Abreu has a better OPS for the season. Minimum 400 PA for each player. Wager open to VERIFIED posters only. In for my guy Jose. And before Cubbie Nation goes crazy, they were the ones that set that as the standard.

Author:	IMU [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
I'll bet $100 with FF for OPS, straight up. I'm at a slight disadvantage, but only slight.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
I think $100 on the OPS and $100 on $100 on the WAR is a fair offer. In the event IMU would allow me in on 50% stake.... FF can syndicate out his $200 Brick on the line as well. Do we have a deal?

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Author:	IMU [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
I would do a WAR bet as well split 50/50 on each if FF and Rick are down.

Author:	bigfan [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
The offer is "LIVE ACTION"

Author:	FavreFan [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
No interest in a WAR bet. Got no problem conceding that Rizzo will probably have a higher WAR.

Author:	Arlington Hts Archie [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
IN ops bet. I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury.

Author:	IMU [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Arlington Hts Archie wrote: IN ops bet. I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury. Moving it to 500 PA minimum shouldn't be an issue. Both should easily get near 700. Abreu had 668 last year, Rizzo had just over 700.

Author:	Chus [ Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Arlington Hts Archie wrote: Whatever PA is needed to qualify for batting title. If that's included in OPS bet then I'm in 502

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:50 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Arlington Hts Archie wrote: IN ops bet. I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury. In.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Not doing WAR though. WAR kind of sucks as a statistic.

Author:	IMU [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:57 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Arlington Hts Archie wrote: IN ops bet. I want min 500 plate appearances. Not this shit where abreu sits out July-Sept with 850 OPS because shit conditioning leads to an injury. .850 OPS won't win this. Boilermaker Rick wrote: Not doing WAR though. WAR kind of sucks as a statistic. So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I think professional softball leagues might be able to pay him big money.

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Author:	rogers park bryan [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:05 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Not doing WAR though. WAR kind of sucks as a statistic. Win probability added

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:11 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it.

Author:	walkrman5 [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it. How about the errors prevented? Example - Mark Grace saved Dunston how many errors? For the record,...I hated Mark Grace!

Author:	IMU [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it. Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
IMU wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it. Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though. I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B.

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it. Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though. I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B. There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
bigfan wrote: There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm? There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now.

Author:	IMU [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: IMU wrote: So you think that Abreu is a decent hitter but a shitty ballplayer? I agree! I'll take the better hitting 1B pretty much always. If he steals less bases or has a few more errors in a season I'll live with it. Even if that ballplayer doesn't help the team win as many games? Understood. Can't say I agree though. I think you'll win more games with the better hitting 1B. So it sounds like you do want to bet on WAR and WPA.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
OPS is good with me.

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:11 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
Boilermaker Rick wrote: bigfan wrote: There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm? There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now. Right , Just admit you walked into your own poop on that one.

Author:	bigfan [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:12 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
How about Games Played? Rizzo -6 ?

Author:	Brick [ Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:15 am ]
Post subject:	Re: RIZZO v ABREOO Wagers
bigfan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: bigfan wrote: There should be a stat for that.............Hmmmmm? There is no reason to believe that there is a correct one right now. Right , Just admit you walked into your own poop on that one. We've discussed WAR for hours on here before and the consensus is that it is a flawed statistic even with the name.