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If Chet Coppack gets suspended for his Jewish comment about money, then why wasn't Holmes suspended for his comment that "He sometimes dreams about stabbing white people". He made this comment when he was talking about a Cheaters show where Joey Greco got stabbed.


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there is a big difference between the two statements.....

plus, chet works for the mouse.
you know...the mascot for that evil corporation.

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did he mention the white people he dreams about stabbing all post on this site?


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This guy's an ass wrap. I turned him on "once" and he was talking about a guy selling Fukudome t-shirts that he kept on harping that were racist. And if anybody disagree with him instead of saying something like, I respect your opinion, nope YOUR WRONG. At one point he said it was conservative talk radio sheep racist followers who didn't think the shirt was racist.
Everything is racist to this guy. Bet he's a liberal. Instead of saying the guy who printed the shirt didn't think it how it looked or made a bad call or how about getting the guy on the radio and talk to him. Nope, he got his training from Berstein. Just open your mouth and say stupid things, because I have the right color and I can do or say anything.


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If Chet Coppack gets suspended for his Jewish comment about money, then why wasn't Holmes suspended for his comment that "He sometimes dreams about stabbing white people". He made this comment when he was talking about a Cheaters show where Joey Greco got stabbed.


Because people actually listen to Chet... and

Because Chet actually has listeners, not relatives sitting around the transistor.


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doug - evergreen park wrote:
there is a big difference between the two statements.....


I agree. The Larry Holmes comment is much worse in degree.

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There is a big difference.

Still, Larry has some pent up hostility it seems.

If you're black you have more of a leash with those type of comments. It's just a fact. It's actually understandable to me.

Still, Larry does lose credibility when he makes those comments. Not that he had any credibility with me anyway.


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The funny thing is I havent really heard anything about this story. I think if Jeff Dickerson said "I dream about stabbing black people" it would be all over the national news cycle.

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The funny thing is I havent really heard anything about this story. I think if Jeff Dickerson said "I dream about stabbing black people" it would be all over the national news cycle.


Absolutely. Both are equally offensive. Minorities can get away with it because they have been the oppressed group and the subjects of racism. That's really the reason why.

Even though Larry can get away with it I wouldn't advise that he continue down that path. Not smart to offend white people who are the majority of Chicago radio listeners.

Plus, Laurence doesn't like the nick name "Larry". He keeps this talk up people will start calling him "O.J. Holmes".

Then he'll wish for "Larry" again.

When did Larry say this?


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Absolutely. Both are equally offensive. Minorities can get away with it because they have been the oppressed group and the subjects of racism. That's really the reason why.


Larry doesnt really strike me as being oppressed growing up here.

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Absolutely. Both are equally offensive. Minorities can get away with it because they have been the oppressed group and the subjects of racism. That's really the reason why.


Larry doesn't really strike me as being oppressed growing up here.


No. Probably not. But he is a minority so he can use that cushion. Regardless of his personal experience.


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I think everyone - white, black, other - needs to lighten the fuck up! What Laurence said is damn funny taken in context. His job is partially to entertain, no? If a black comedian had worked that into his stand-up, you'd all be howling with laughter.

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I think everyone - white, black, other - needs to lighten the fuck up! What Laurence said is damn funny taken in context. His job is partially to entertain, no? If a black comedian had worked that into his stand-up, you'd all be howling with laughter.


I dont have a problem with what he said. As a white person it does not offend me. My only point is that if a white guy said he dreamed of stabbing black guys, it would be national news. I havent even heard of this story till now. Care to fill us in on the context?

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Johnny Chimpo wrote:
I think everyone - white, black, other - needs to lighten the fuck up! What Laurence said is damn funny taken in context. His job is partially to entertain, no? If a black comedian had worked that into his stand-up, you'd all be howling with laughter.


Well, if a white guy said that about black people Larry would dedicate a show to it and ask "What is our society coming to? Why do we have to single out groups. That is pure racism."

The earlier poster pointed out that Larry didn't find the Fukudome shits funny. So no, Larry can't hide under the guise of "I'm a talk show host and trying to be funny."

Not with his stances. Larry singled out white people with that comment. Implying that they are different in his mind. He'd go nuts if a white guy did that.

I wasn't offended. But Larry can't have it both ways.


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Laurence is a race baiter, he trys to hard to prove he is black, sad in many ways. Laurence is Mitch's bitch, so Laurence wont get in any trouble. Laurence knows the day Mitch is gone, so is he.


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rstarre wrote:
He made this comment when he was talking about a Cheaters show where Joey Greco got stabbed.


I have to admit, I did make an assumption that may change my thinking. I assumed that the comment was made in jest following a story about a really stupid show involving (predominantly) white people behaving badly on TV.

You both have valid points, especially about not having it both ways.

Like I said, many people need to lighten up, an maybe Laurence is among them.

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Laurence is a race baiter,


I listen to Laurence alot; I enjoy his shows. I don't know what you're talking about.

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If Chet Coppack gets suspended for his Jewish comment about money, then why wasn't Holmes suspended for his comment that "He sometimes dreams about stabbing white people". He made this comment when he was talking about a Cheaters show where Joey Greco got stabbed.
Probably because nobody heard it.


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someone call in and say that they sometimes have dreams about stabbing him....
see what that get's ya.

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
someone call in and say that they sometimes have dreams about stabbing him....
see what that get's ya.


Absolutely. Larry loves to get those calls so he can go into his rant about how racism is wrong. That we all should get along. Ya know. Easy talk show commentary that nobody can argue with and Larry looks like this great social voice.

Look, everybody knows Larry isn't gonna stab white people. We know it's a joke.

That's not the point. Larry always is preaching against divisive speech and stereotyping. He hates when people separate groups and act like we're different. What did Larry do here? He stereotyped white people and pointed out that we're different.

Larry and Bernsie did a show a little bit ago. Bernsie said he hates that Fukudome has to be compared to other Japanese players. Larry, being a Bernsie parrot, said something like "Aren't we beyond that as a society?" Once again an easy comment to make. Makes Larry look good.

Then Larry makes this comment? C'mon. It just shows that he's a hypocrite. It shows that Larry is just a bullshiter who uses easy talking points against racist talk but doesn't practice what he preaches.


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What did Larry do here? He stereotyped white people and pointed out that we're different.


Well, one could also argue he sterotyped black people by intimating that they would like to settle their differences with white people by stabbing them.

Look, little old me sitting here typing with my pants around my ankles (to use another stereotype) isn't PERSONALLY offended--I have a pretty thick skin about this kind of stuff--but, given what people are suspended or fired for in today's broadcasting world, this sounds fairly serious to me.


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Well, one could also argue he sterotyped black people by intimating that they would like to settle their differences with white people by stabbing them.
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Untouchables taught me that was an Italian stereotype


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What was the context here?

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The more I think about this the more pissed I get. It shows what a phony and fraud Larry is.

He's the righteous guy that get's on people for similar divisive speech.

Curious Hair asked about context. The context doesn't matter if Larry said "I have dreams about stabbing white people."

You know he doesn't have those dreams. He was trying to deliver a funny one liner I'll bet. But Larry can't do that. He's the guy that goes nuts on similar comments against minorities. He's the guy that would, if a white guy made a similar comment, say "That's horrible. I'm outraged. Can't we all get along? Why must we point out differences. In this day and age. My God."

If you were to call Larry on this he would quickly skirt it and hang up on you.

Like I said, this just proves what a phony Larry is.


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Like I said, this just proves what a phony Larry is.


Not just Larry. The media and society too. It's ridiculous how little publicity this is getting compared to if the roles were reversed.

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Like I said, this just proves what a phony Larry is.


Not just Larry. The media and society too. It's ridiculous how little publicity this is getting compared to if the roles were reversed.


Right. That's what I mean. This would be a 2 day topic on the Score if it were an athlete that said something similar. It would be 10 shows for Larry if a white guy said something similar.


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So who's gonna hit Larry with the "Who ya' crappin?" tomorrow?


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Beardown wrote:
Curious Hair asked about context. The context doesn't matter if Larry said "I have dreams about stabbing white people."

I didn't mean "oh, maybe he was just taken out of context," it was more "what on Earth prompted him to say he dreams of stabbing white people?" And isn't Larry half-white? Will he have to stab himself, or just superficially cut himself? Nothing whiter than that.

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What was Danny's reaction to the comment?
How about Jason?

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