How badly did Herb stiff you on a tip? I take it he ordered a large amount of food.

Plus, who the fuck wants to tailgate with Herb? I get somebody like Danny Mac, or maybe wsd with his barstool following. But Herb? Boring.

Devin Hester

If your going to use Devin Hester you will need a translation system similar to the UN with someone translating the Hesterese into English, and you have a ready made drinking game where you take a swig each time he uses some form of the phrase, "most definitely".

To watch someone gorge themselves with hot dogs Joey Chestnut style? I can’t speak on the tip, but I am certain this is someone who complains that service workers aren’t paid enough. Or he’s just a huge Scootie Pippen fan.

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I say the same thing with Mitch programming middays.

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Their Bears coverage is often pretty good. Regarding Bears podcasts, I actually enjoy the NBC Under Center podcast with Ken Davis, Josh Schrock and Alex Shapiro. Davis is an entertaining guy, and Schrock and Shapiro generally make good points. The PFW podcast would also be very good if Hub weren't on it. I haven't listened to Olin's show in a while. I'll have to catch up on it before training camp begins.

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ive just started watching this past week these CHGO Sports guys post cubs game live podcasts on youtube. it's pretty good. this and LOCKED ON CUBS.

Better than the vanilla cubs Marquee post game show and ZZ on the radio.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

The entire team of CHGO guys could use a makeover. It's like they don't realize people can see them.

we mock some of the score guys of the past, but when they are teamed with what seems like people off the street at CHGO, you can see the difference in quality.

That Bears group would be unlistenable without (SICP alum) Hoge.

On the sox group, Herb is a slug. Even his posture makes him look like a person you shouldn't take seriously. I don't know what would have caused an exec to choose him to issue opinions. Vinnie Duber looks like he drives a van from the 70s with no windows in back. I know some young men are trying to bring the mustache back into vogue but that look for him has to be poon repellant.

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ill have to check out under center.

I've seen that you like a few of these podcasts. It seems to me that almost every show is lots of fat and very little meat. You can skip through the first 10-15 minutes as the hosts catch everyone up on their uninteresting lives, then you get some content followed by the last 20 minutes being them trying to stretch to fill their hour commitment

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this CHGO network actually reminds me of the Score during the early days.

Very true, find that they usually pad the first 10 mins of all pods with filler chat. There is also very little difference between the content on local Bears pods because the same guys are on two of them (CHGO Bears/Hoge and Jahns) and most of the other Pods use stuff from the exact same Bears reporters.

I'll second the Under Center podcast. Feel like I'm getting actual information. I listened to some of the chicago sports podcast and it was meh.

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I don’t know this story. Please direct me to the post or share. Fucking Herb is the worst on twitter.

this CHGO Sports channel on youtube has a cubs post game show live after every game. and it's great.

it reminds me of the early score where they just talk sports and no other b.s.

like the guys right now are just talking about the game that just ended and cubs baseball. the score should do something like having the cubs games on radio.

Also this CHGO should have been started by Dr. Ken and the powers here. It would have been wildly successful with a low investment margin.

I found another live YT channel for the Cubs called Cubs Baseball Channel hosted by Mick Gillispie.

This Mick guy's voice sounds very familiar. Is he a former Score employee?

No, but he did the Spring Training web games with Len for several years. He is the PBP guy at AA.

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Find the first 5-10 mins of all the CHGO pods usesless as they almost always consist of the hosts bitching about how hard it is to do a podcast, yapping about their golf games, or whining about how they feel after drinking two White Claws last night.

Do enjoy the stuff with scouts or out of town experts who give you an honest take, the only two guys working locally that give you unique takes are Thayer and Olin, but most of the time it goes over the head of the hosts.

Find myself rarely listening to WSCR or WMVP anymore because you get far superior Bears content in a concise package which works well when you only have a bit of time due to work or family commitments.

Looks like this is now following the next steps in becoming the next Webio

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Herb was never someone with great insights. Maybe cutting the fat?

what does this mean, the next Webio?

Edit: Nevermind I see the other thread.

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my final analysis is the same as my initial analysis

I do think there is some room for this concept and I am sorry it didn't work

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A low energy product from a bunch of guys that are afraid to say anything controversial because they do not want to offend anyone in the front office of the teams they cover.

The reason the score was succesful early is that they would blast team ownership and coaches, it was something different in the marketplace.

You also had North who, like him or not, did bring energy and fun to the product at the start, as did the HFC. It seems McAfee is doing quite a bit of what North did back in the day along with some Kevin Matthews type impersonations, a copy of Chicago AM radio back in its prime.

That is the space that is open, just doing yet another timid and socially appropriate pod with guys who look to be just going through the motion and looking at the clock to see how much more time they have to fill is not really working.

Maybe there's space for sports talk that does not broadcast sports and has no connections to the teams. Literally every team in Chicago is poorly run. It is easy meat to fire on them 24/7.

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I'm not sure this would draw enough of an audience to make money, but it would just be refreshing to have sports talk with no politics, no woke nonsense finding it's way into regular show commentary. Just because you have a microphone does not make you an expert on social/political commentary, but too many hosts now think they have to have a very far left opinion on everything and it's up doing nothing but creating distaste for even their sports opinions.

For a show that has a visual presentation, Herb doesn't work. You need attractive females as part of the show. Remove the far left/woke nonsense, say what's on your mind, talk like a normal person and have fun. You don't need to be pompous/smug, reminding people that you covered the team 20 years ago for home games and are therefore an expert on everything today.