That's the kind of article that is written when someone isn't a leader but is trying to change that. The subtext was clear. It wouldn't be worth an article if the story is "player who was a leader last year is acting like a leader this year". I don't see how you read that and think that leadership was one of the qualities Cutler lacked. It's kind of like when someone writes a story that says "This player really worked in the off-season and came in in shape". There is another piece of information there. The piece is that the player didn't always come in in shape.

That piece also seems like the same old training camp fluff piece. It would be great if that is true. However, most of these articles end up looking like wishful thinking by week 2. I guess we'll see.

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Cutler's leadership won't directly result in wins or losses. Cutler was apparently an awful leader last year and they managed to win a game or two. They could go winless this year and he could be an amazing leader.


Like TM, I respect your dislike of Cutler, but this isn't a fun argument. Not one of your better ones. Sadly, I'm leaving for the day. I like you BR, you're a cool dude. Cheers.

I'm glad you stopped by to help out my argument by posting a "Cutler trying to change and be a good leader this year" article.

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Weren't you dismissing Cutler's leadership capabilities based on his media tomfoolery? Urlacher and Kreutz are no different in their attitudes and behavior--indeed, Urlacher is probably worse--but they are nevertheless the team's leaders. So are Cutler's media relations skills indicative of his leadership qualities, then, or not?

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It was not this incident that caused me to not think that he was a good leader. This was more evidence of it though. I said many of the same things last year before this interview ever happened.
I don't think Urlacher and Kreutz are great leaders either. In fact, they may have similar flaws in leadership ability as Cutler which only adds to the idea that if Cutler showed a different attitude that he would be able to establish a leadership role over Kreutz who hasn't set the bar very high.

My point all along was that this type of attitude is the reason that Cutler has yet to become the leader of the offense and instead that role still goes to a declining offensive lineman. He can be a jerk too and may not be a great leader himself but until I see otherwise he's still the dominant voice on the offense. I don't want him to be like Olin Kruetz.

Cutler's media relations are indicative of his leadership qualities as are Kreutzs and Urlachers. I wouldn't call any of them great leaders at least in the last few years. I would say that there was a time when both players were and they are likely using that legacy to continue to keep a leadership role whereas Cutler is behaving similarly where if he had a different attitude he would be the natural leader of the team.

I won't deny it's a good point but "Urlacher and Kreutz are jerks to the media too" doesn't mean that I want my QB to be one also.

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So you're saying that articles have unwritten subtexts that should be heeded? Interesting.

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Whoa, whoa, BR, actually we didn't know that. I can point to a certain 24-page thread where you keep insisting that you have nothing against Cutler and continually dismiss any accusations that your preference for Orton over Cutler has any personal bias involved!

Now the truth is exposed.

By the way, are you game for picking up that thread again after week 1?

Is Orton even going to start? How will life be without Brandon Marshall?