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Why do people still insist on cover letters for online applications? I will never understand.


Is it wise to Tweet about applying for other jobs?

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Why do people still insist on cover letters for online applications? I will never understand.


Is it wise to Tweet about applying for other jobs?
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Julie DiCaro ‏@JulieDiCaro 37s38 seconds ago
Why do people still insist on cover letters for online applications? I will never understand.


Is it wise to Tweet about applying for other jobs?



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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We're hiring two bloggers, if you want to come work with us: http://deadsp.in/6SP91Jw

Just saw this. I checked. It does require a cover letter.

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We're hiring two bloggers, if you want to come work with us: http://deadsp.in/6SP91Jw

Just saw this. I checked. It does require a cover letter.


Could Julie bring herself to work for Terry Bollea?


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We could have had a 200-page thread about how shitty Barry Petchesky is if we had put our minds to it.

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Wants a job as a writer...complains about having to write a cover letter.

Maybe Julie can work on it during Chicago Tonight while they're talking to the other guests.


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Wants a job as a writer...complains about having to write a cover letter.


Couldn't she just quote a piece written about her, by her, in which she's given her resume? There's gotta be 20 of those.


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Couldn't she just quote a piece written about her, by her, in which she's given her resume? There's gotta be 20 of those.


Haha, maybe she just watches lots of Aaron Sorkin shows. All his characters ever do is yell their credentials at each other.

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Wants a job as a writer...complains about having to write a cover letter.


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formerly, is it "known as" or "know nas"?

"Known as," though I respect Nas the poster and I'm down with Nas the artist. (Well, a little down.)

I forgot the PW to my old account.



What were you formerly known as?

Yeah, so I realize that I'm going to come across as a huge flake....but I can't remember. My Macbook (and many of my dreams) died several months ago, and the password and username seem to have went with it. I didn't say anything of consequence, though. 200 posts at the most.

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Wants a job as a writer...complains about having to write a cover letter.



I think that sums it all up.

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formerly, is it "known as" or "know nas"?

"Known as," though I respect Nas the poster and I'm down with Nas the artist. (Well, a little down.)

I forgot the PW to my old account.



What were you formerly known as?

Yeah, so I realize that I'm going to come across as a huge flake....but I can't remember. My Macbook (and many of my dreams) died several months ago, and the password and username seem to have went with it. I didn't say anything of consequence, though. 200 posts at the most.


Hmmmm. :wink: :alien:

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Does it make me sound like an old Fudddy Duddy to ask why the fuck school age kids need cell phones? Maybe in high school you have one and keep it in your locker but what the heck?

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Does it make me sound like an old Fudddy Duddy to ask why the fuck school age kids need cell phones?


Probably, but I'm with you. I don't see the need. Enjoy the world around you, not the screen in front of you (at least until you're old enough to have given up on life).

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Does it make me sound like an old Fudddy Duddy to ask why the fuck school age kids need cell phones?


Probably, but I'm with you. I don't see the need. Enjoy the world around you, not the screen in front of you (at least until you're old enough to have given up on life).

I like your attitude son.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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We're hiring two bloggers, if you want to come work with us: http://deadsp.in/6SP91Jw

Just saw this. I checked. It does require a cover letter.


i thought gawker was in deep shit? they're hiring writers?


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Deadspin ‏@Deadspin 23m23 minutes ago
We're hiring two bloggers, if you want to come work with us: http://deadsp.in/6SP91Jw

Just saw this. I checked. It does require a cover letter.


i thought gawker was in deep shit? they're hiring writers?


Maybe Deadspin is a viable property on its own...maybe, but not without some major fat trimming or, to borrow a Bernstein-ism, monetization.

But I don't know how "we're hiring bloggers" fits in with their recent unionization. Would Jules be a scab?


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Wants a job as a writer...complains about having to write a cover letter.

Maybe Julie can work on it during Chicago Tonight while they're talking to the other guests.


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Does it make me sound like an old Fudddy Duddy to ask why the fuck school age kids need cell phones? Maybe in high school you have one and keep it in your locker but what the heck?


It is the parents who want the school aged kids to have a cell phone so they can check in & know what they are doing & who they are with at all times.


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Does it make me sound like an old Fudddy Duddy to ask why the fuck school age kids need cell phones?


Probably, but I'm with you. I don't see the need. Enjoy the world around you, not the screen in front of you (at least until you're old enough to have given up on life).

You guys are both old fuckers. Embrace the technology - especially you leash since you have a daughter. You think the Internet is ubiquitous now? Just wait 5-10 years. It's basically as necessary for an 8 year old to have some type of device as it was for us to have ball and glove or something else to play with growing up. Plus it will be crucial to their development.

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Did anyone else see Julie on Chicago Tonight? She came across as a perfectly reasonable and intelligent person. Anyone who is unaware of the way she operates her Twitter account and her "reporting" of the Kane story is going to be completely sympathetic to her. In spite of that, there were a couple times when you could see Phil Ponce was somewhat confused by her position. I think his take was actually very similar to that of many of us here, i.e. that, yeah, some of the stuff that is said to her online is utterly disgusting, but dwelling on it to the degree that she does is a little odd.

She even admitted that men who express strong opinions online get the same kind of blowback as women do, but her issue is that men don't get the same kind of gender specific insults/threats as women do. Well, of course not. If some clown threatens to rape me, I'm going to laugh it off. It doesn't hurt. The whole point is that these assholes are trying to injure their target. Call me Tom Skilling and it hurts. I'm not sure why she can't understand that.

One thing she said was that she doesn't know any men who have "had to" call the police regarding things that were said to them online, but she knows several women who have. I got the feeling Ponce wasn't putting much stock in that, probably because he prepared for the interview and is well aware that there really haven't been any incidents of threats against women on Twitter actually being carried out. So it's like the Halloween razor blade in the apple. Just some phony boogie man.

Finally, they showed the tweet the guy made with the burger pic.

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Please do not retaliate to the trolls and abusers with abuse. Not in my name. Please, not in my name.’ Thus spoke Jack Monroe, the writer and campaigner who announced last week that she is leaving Twitter after receiving a barrage of ‘suffocating’ tweets, ‘hate’ and ‘vitriol’ from internet trolls. This came after TV presenter Sue Perkins also declared she was departing the microblogging site, having been subjected to homophobic correspondence from irate Top Gear viewers.

‘Not in my name.’ Ah, that slogan again, the one so befitting of our narcissistic age in which Everything Is About Me. This maxim gained popularity during the ostensible anti-war protests of 2003, but its persistence reminds us that self-regard remains one of the defining cultural traits of the 21st century. Indeed, since Twitter emerged in the years following the anti-war demos, Generation Selfie has become yet more myopically self-consumed.

We all know that people can be despicable on Twitter – as much as they can be wonderful. And it’s true that it’s usually men who are the worst offenders, just as it’s men who are normally the most interesting tweeters. As with the less sinister but equally depressing culture of righteous ‘virtue signalling’ and liberal-left censoriousness, ‘death threats’ and ‘rape threats’ have become a repellent part of the Twitter furniture. But are any of these threats real, sincere or authentic?

Not much. That’s because the internet is, at best, only partly real life. People who are sincere in carrying out death threats do not announce them in public. Proper psychopaths are far too clever and calculated to be so cavalier. Sword-wielding religious maniacs are not known to make specific promises on social media before the event. Angry, vile people on Twitter – and those who write rude things below articles – are far more likely to be frustrated, attention-seeking young males venting their spleen. Or SNP voters.

Sure, online threats are disgusting, no matter how empty the intent, and, as Monroe said, they can also be ‘exhausting, frightening and very deeply saddening’. It can’t have been nice, either, to have been in the shoes of Caroline Criado-Perez, who campaigned for equal representation of women on UK banknotes. At its peak, the abuse she received ran at around 50 tweets an hour from multiple anonymous accounts.

I’ve received horrible tweets and, in days of yore, real hate mail. It is unnerving and hurtful, but, hey, people can be nasty. But I didn’t subsequently erect a banner in front of my house declaring to the world: ‘I’m leaving Royal Mail because people are horrid.’ And people who are hateful in print are often the reverse in the flesh.

Online ‘death threats’ are nothing of the sort. There is no more evidence that any of these ‘threats’ have been carried out, than there is that Twitter jokes about bombing Doncaster airport or catching AIDS in South Africa correlate to a reality beyond the keyboard or smartphone.

Avon and Somerset police say they have arrested a 22-year-old man in connection with their investigation into homophobic messages posted on social media, believed to be connected to Monroe. What a heavy-handed waste of time and money. Internet trolls would be better ignored, blocked or shamed. When TV star Noel Edmonds tracked down a troll in 2012, he found the miscreant to be ‘terrified and remorseful’ on account of his actions. Online trolls invariably react in this way when faced with the reality of their behaviour. When it comes to bad behaviour, stigmatisation is usually preferable to action by the state.

Twitter isn’t reality. But it does facilitate our real, modern culture of self-regard and attention-seeking (people actually buying followers? Good grief! Take a proper look at – not photo of – yourself). Those who talk imperiously about imaginary death threats are mostly grandstanding. It’s the latest manifestation of our society’s predilection for narcissistic victimhood. No wonder the champion of the boast, ‘I’m leaving Twitter’, is that needy arch-luvvie Stephen Fry.

The grandiose celebrity declaration ‘I’m leaving Twitter’ (or the comparable Facebook utterance ‘I’m defriending you’) is the modern equivalent of ‘I’m leaving the country if Labour wins the general election’. Good. No one cares, and no one believes you anyway.

Receiving spurious ‘death threats’ online doesn’t make you a latter-day Salman Rushdie, let alone tomorrow’s Charlie Hebdo cartoonist. As Steven Berkoff said of Twitter a couple of years ago, it’s no good jumping into a dustbin and then complaining that you’re covered in rubbish. As for ‘Not in my name’, the same rule applies online as it does off: who cares what your name is?

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i like the writer's perspective, especially with taking shots at the "generation selfie" attitude people have. for people like JDC and the like, Twitter is really a self-serving tool to exploit their own oblivious arrogance to show how important they are to the world (and she, like others, loves to humblebrag--a true qualifier for a narcissist). but once it gets a little too hot, it's time to leave and complain and be a victim.

what's lost on these types of women is that they're completely invalidating the image of the "strong woman" when they talk big, and all the "run like a girl" ad campaigns--and the moment they feel "threatened", it's the scared victim crawl in a hole and wait for someone to save me attitude. and the latter is what men have been stereotyping women for centuries.


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what's lost on these types of women is that they're completely invalidating the image of the "strong woman" when they talk big, and all the "run like a girl" ad campaigns--and the moment they feel "threatened", it's the scared victim crawl in a hole and wait for someone to save me attitude. and the latter is what men have been stereotyping women for centuries.


And how swift men are to rush to the poor woman's defense. Except that's not called being a sexist who assumes women are weak, that's being a strong male ally.

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the Nice Guy(tm), that is also a hypocrite, because on the surface they're the valiant knight saving the damsel in distress--and beneath that, they want the same thing the sexist alpha males that are attacking them want.


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Why is it always so extreme with this?

There are some guys that just don't like it when women are called fat and ugly because people think they suck at their job or they are mad that they treated a sports celebrity(who probably would treat you like garbage) wrong.

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My question to her: What next?

Is this going to be a worn cycle of "My job is to be on Twitter--People are mean to me on Twitter--I'm going to write/talk about how I'm being kept out of the men's club because they don't like women."

Or is she going to up her game and write/talk about something that will elevate her? Her track record is spotty and anyone who has read her work can see that aside from one incident (foam party) none of the rest is compelling, and quite a bit is inaccurate.

She wants "a seat at the table" but it is not clear exactly who is stopping her from trying to sit at whatever table. If it is an industry problem, articulating specifics could be interesting. If it's about Twitter responses to last month's story told again this week, then she has to realize that her audience isn't going to grow.

So, what next?

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