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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week

Tim Ryan on PBP, right?

When Johnny cut back a bit, Jiggs did the NFL broadcasts for a couple of years when he was doing weekend sports on Channel 2.


payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.


I remember Joe McConnell on the radio during the first half of Walter's career - he was really good.


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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week

That was my favorite era of NFL Today…Irv Cross, Brent Musburger, Jimmy the Greek, Phyllis George. For some reason it seemed like must-see TV back then.

Great team, no doubt. Made better with the love of my yout, Jayne Kennedy.

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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.

Nas, how would you even know? You were like six.

Hawk was awesome back then, but it was the two of them clicking that made it work.

Hawk was greatest with the late Don Drysdale.

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2. Lloyd Pettit
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4. Hawk
5. Jim Durham
6. Jimmy Piersall
7. Ed Farmer
8. Steve Stone
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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week


When there weren’t blackouts and Venture had to buy 3500 tickets.


I remember my dad watching a Bob Newhart episode centered around them going away to Milwaukee or somewhere out of market so that they could watch the game. I was confused. Now that I'm older, I'm even more confused. Why not just buy tickets?

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week


When there weren’t blackouts and Venture had to buy 3500 tickets.

Hey, they stomped the Saints that one game!

@Chet: Yeah, Tim Ryan. I was gonna mention him above.

My dad supposedly had an altercation with Johnny Morris once, and my mom detested him because he wasn't Catholic, so I wasn't a huge fan. But we were a Channel Two news family, so I got my Morris fix.

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We were all Channel 2 families during the Bill Kurtis/Walter Jacobsen days.

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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week


When there weren’t blackouts and Venture had to buy 3500 tickets.

Hey, they stomped the Saints that one game!

@Chet: Yeah, Tim Ryan. I was gonna mention him above.

My dad supposedly had an altercation with Johnny Morris once, and my mom detested him because he wasn't Catholic, so I wasn't a huge fan. But we were a Channel Two news family, so I got my Morris fix.

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We were all Channel 2 families during the Bill Kurtis/Walter Jacobsen days.


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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.

Nas, how would you even know? You were like six.

Hawk was awesome back then, but it was the two of them clicking that made it work.

Hawk was greatest with the late Don Drysdale.


I think you could make a case they were the best baseball pairing ever in Chicago. Stone is highly overrated. I should add I liked Harry and Jimmy but that was in my youth.


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Nas wrote:
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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.


I noticed Jimmy Piersall didn't appear on any lists. Harry and Jimmy were an absolute treat. That was a great era of broadcasting on both sides of town. Cubs were stacked both on TV and radio. Nobody had Milo Hamilton either. I liked him better than Brickhouse but both guys were HOF. Then on radio they had Lou Boudreau and Vince Lloyd, who I thought were really good as a kid.

No one today but Stone comes close to any of those guys.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week

That was my favorite era of NFL Today…Irv Cross, Brent Musburger, Jimmy the Greek, Phyllis George. For some reason it seemed like must-see TV back then.


Fox ruined sports coverage.

The pre games were never the same once they brought in their style of giggling fools and fake sound effects.

I pity younger people who don't know what NFL pre game was built upon. It was just entirely different in its nature. I think it was an hour as well. The coach's studio audience show would precede. I guess we must have gone to 9 or 9:30 mass back in those days and we'd get back home for football.

One of my really bad memories of youth was having to get dressed up on Sundays. I hated wearing dark socks for some reason and my parents were unbending in making me wear them I had a legit reason too, as the dark socks were always polyester or some synthetic material that I still hate today. I only like cotton socks. Why couldn't my parents understand this?

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good dolphin wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week


When there weren’t blackouts and Venture had to buy 3500 tickets.


I remember my dad watching a Bob Newhart episode centered around them going away to Milwaukee or somewhere out of market so that they could watch the game. I was confused. Now that I'm older, I'm even more confused. Why not just buy tickets?


Back in the day, the NFL popularity wasn't what it is now...and the Bears were even worse than they are now. There were blackout rules in place whereas if the Bears didn't sell out their games (and they didn't) the game wouldn't be on air in this market, but it would be on an hour's drive north to Milwaukee.

Not sure if those rules are still in place...


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Back in the day the 5 & 10 pm local Chicago newscasts 3-4 minute sports segment were must see viewing. No particular favorites they all were good. Savvy viewers would know which was first. Watch the first until something like tennis comes up and usually be able to catch a lot of all channels 2, 5, 7, and 9's. Unless it was a rarity that a player or team announcer was doing the sports than watch his whole sports segment. Those are now obsolete and I haven't watched in years.


This man knows. The creation of Sports Sunday, which was like 15 more minutes of sports at the end of the broadcast, changed my world. Then George Michael's sports machine became syndicated and suddenly I was staying up until 11-11;30 when I had school the next day.

It wasn't THAT long ago that I was in college and the sports bar had not been invented. I see the internet says they were invented in 1979 but I could tell you for certain, they weren't really there, in big cities in the early 90s. There was no "hey, let's go to the bars and watch games today." Bars had a little tv up on one of the far ends of the bar. You were shit out of luck trying to follow the Bears out of market.

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OscarTangoEcho wrote:
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Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week


When there weren’t blackouts and Venture had to buy 3500 tickets.


I remember my dad watching a Bob Newhart episode centered around them going away to Milwaukee or somewhere out of market so that they could watch the game. I was confused. Now that I'm older, I'm even more confused. Why not just buy tickets?


Back in the day, the NFL popularity wasn't what it is now...and the Bears were even worse than they are now. There were blackout rules in place whereas if the Bears didn't sell out their games (and they didn't) the game wouldn't be on air in this market, but it would be on an hour's drive north to Milwaukee.

Not sure if those rules are still in place...


Didn't Soldier Field also have a capacity of around 80K back then as well, with that last 20K far away with bad sight lines?

I started going to games, probably around 82-83. We had a guy who was a friend who got us parking, literally a stone's throw from the stadium and really good seats.

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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.


I noticed Jimmy Piersall didn't appear on any lists. Harry and Jimmy were an absolute treat. That was a great era of broadcasting on both sides of town. Cubs were stacked both on TV and radio. Nobody had Milo Hamilton either. I liked him better than Brickhouse but both guys were HOF. Then on radio they had Lou Boudreau and Vince Lloyd, who I thought were really good as a kid.

No one today but Stone comes close to any of those guys.


I don't think I was alive when Harry worked for the Sox. IIRC, Murph introduced me to Jimmy.

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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Johnny Morris on bears games in my youth was great. For you kids out there, the nfc was on CBS and the non national games were broadcast by the same people for the entire season. It was like a local broadcast every week

Tim Ryan on PBP, right?

When Johnny cut back a bit, Jiggs did the NFL broadcasts for a couple of years when he was doing weekend sports on Channel 2.


payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.


I remember Joe McConnell on the radio during the first half of Walter's career - he was really good.


agreed. he was. i want to say larrivee's first year was the super bowl year, didn't take long to adjust to him. larrivee was that good. i remember morris was flying the 'payton out of the I and not T' flag.


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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.

Nas, how would you even know? You were like six.

Hawk was awesome back then, but it was the two of them clicking that made it work.

Hawk was greatest with the late Don Drysdale.

I was pretty young then...and I could barely understand them!

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payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.

Matt Blair can still go fuck himself. If he didn't die two years ago, he could have probably still blocked Bears kicks in his 70s.

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Nas wrote:
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Surprised there is no love for Tom Paciorek. Hawk always got defensive around Wimpy when he mentioned football :lol:

He was great in the booth, though.


He was fine, but Hawk made that broadcast.


I noticed Jimmy Piersall didn't appear on any lists. Harry and Jimmy were an absolute treat. That was a great era of broadcasting on both sides of town. Cubs were stacked both on TV and radio. Nobody had Milo Hamilton either. I liked him better than Brickhouse but both guys were HOF. Then on radio they had Lou Boudreau and Vince Lloyd, who I thought were really good as a kid.

No one today but Stone comes close to any of those guys.


I don't think I was alive when Harry worked for the Sox. IIRC, Murph introduced me to Jimmy.

Harry with the Sox was fantastic. He and Jimmy were great. They both knew the game and knew how to be interesting, and they weren't afraid to call people out. They were, in a way, like Bill Veeck: unconventional as all hell. They also brought the Sox much-needed exposure. Both became a caricature of themselves in later years . . . but don't we all.

I love Stone. I actually liked him and Chip Caray.

Listening to Lou Boudreau and Vince Lloyd somehow made it seem like it was the 1950s or something. Good voices.

Worst announcers:

DeWayne Staats
Milo Hamilton
Gordon Beckham (despite having a hot mom). Gordon just doesn't have the voice. His mom sure is pretty.

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payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.

Matt Blair can still go fuck himself. If he didn't die two years ago, he could have probably still blocked Bears kicks in his 70s.


haha, i understand your pain. those guys every year. blocked punts, PATs, FGs, unbelievable. fantastic special teams.


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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
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payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.

Matt Blair can still go fuck himself. If he didn't die two years ago, he could have probably still blocked Bears kicks in his 70s.


haha, i understand your pain. those guys every year. blocked punts, PATs, FGs, unbelievable. fantastic special teams.


I remember someone saying and I am paraphrasing "The Raiders and Steelers were like the thieves who would take their victim in the back alley, beat the hell out of them and take their money. The Vikings were just pickpockets"


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My all time favorites. Probably cuz those were my guys when I was kid a kid. Now I don't care much about anybody. They're all just fine.

But of those three, Jim Durham was the best on Bulls calls. There was a time, for all you kids out there, where they would simulcast the Bulls on both TV and radio. So you got them on TV and when your mom and dad had to drag you some where, they were also on the radio. This was the 1980s. Jim Durham was awesome. "Shot on Ehlo by Jordan in 1989" Best call in Chicago sports history. Such a big deal to me at the time. That was a HUGE upset by the Bulls. They were the one seed, we were the 5 seed I believe. 2nd round I think. Then we lost to the pistons in the next round. Here it is...

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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
NWsider4-3-3 wrote:

payton's first few seasons we got a lot of lindsey nelson. excellent broadcaster. he watched the bears lose to vikings every year on a blocked punt or FG and the vikings' fred cox would kick 17 yard field goals. i believe my alex karras super toe could kick a plastic football further than fred cox could kick a FG.

after lindsey nelson, we got much more tim ryan.

Matt Blair can still go fuck himself. If he didn't die two years ago, he could have probably still blocked Bears kicks in his 70s.


haha, i understand your pain. those guys every year. blocked punts, PATs, FGs, unbelievable. fantastic special teams.


I remember someone saying and I am paraphrasing "The Raiders and Steelers were like the thieves who would take their victim in the back alley, beat the hell out of them and take their money. The Vikings were just pickpockets"


good one. i seem to remember someone telling us that if the bears had thrown more than 9 a times a game, viking safety krause may have gotten to 100 career INTs. i looked it up, he had 81.


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I had to look up Matt Blair's stats because I wanted to make sure I wasn't overembellishing what I saw as a kid. I couldn't find game by game stats, but the guy had 20 (!!!) blocked kicks in his careers, so figure at least 3-4 against the Bears. I don't think the Bears have blocked 20 kicks in this century.

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I had to look up Matt Blair's stats because I wanted to make sure I wasn't overembellishing what I saw as a kid. I couldn't find game by game stats, but the guy had 20 (!!!) blocked kicks in his careers, so figure at least 3-4 against the Bears. I don't think the Bears have blocked 20 kicks in this century.


right. the bears got smart and got an ex-viking in alan page. page blocked a chester marcol FG attempt in green bay and the ball came right fucking back to marcol - who ran it in for the winning overtime TD. it's darkest right before the dawn. bears' wilderness.

vikings were blocking our kicks and we lose and when we blocked a packer kick with an ex-viking, we lose.


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