bone density? hmm tigers kill brown bears often ..grizzly is sub species of brown bear..tigers kill the largest of the brown bears (russian) ...tigers swim into rivers and kill crocs .. my money on the cat

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Tigers may prey on both Brown and Black Bears when ungulate populations decrease.[4]
[edit]Interspecific predatory relationships
Asian Black Bears and Ussuri Brown Bears constitute 5-8% of the Siberian tiger's diet.[7] The brown bear's input is estimated to be 1-1.5%.[21] Certain tigers have been reported to imitate the calls of Asiatic black bears to attract them.[22] Brown bears are typically attacked by tigers more often than black bears, due to their habit of living in more open areas and their inability to climb trees. When hunting bears, tigers will position themselves from the leeward side of a rock or fallen tree, waiting for the bear to pass by. When the bear passes, the tiger will spring from an overhead position and grab the bear from under the chin with one forepaw and the throat with the other. The immobilized bear is then killed with a bite to the spinal column. After killing a bear, the tiger will concentrate its feeding on the bear's fat deposits, such as the back, hams and groin.[4] Tiger attacks on bears tend to occur when ungulate populations decrease. While tigers can successfully hunt bears, there

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big cats use their stealth and speed to take down large prey.. tigers have even been known to kill a rhino...it takes a pride of starving lions to even attempt such a task.

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i saw it on a documentry ten years ago..lemme c if i can find something... the male does not hunt usually (his mane is 2 visible to prey, the pride is stalking...however i have seen some prides (asia) i think where male is forced to hunt do to mostly elephants and water buffalo being the main food supply ..and they are impressive...but nowhere close to a tiger...which is solitary mostly..they take down massive prey alone.

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Trouble for rhino from poacher and Bengal tiger

Trouble for rhino from poacher and Bengal tiger

PULLOCK DUTTA

Guwahati, March 12: The rhino is being hounded by predators, and not only of the two-legged kind.

Royal Bengal tigers, which usually prey on baby rhinos, have begun killing adult ones in Kaziranga National Park since the last fortnight.

Alarmed by this development, a team of experts from the Wildlife Institute of India (WII), Dehradun, will arrive at the national park tomorrow on a weeklong visit to survey the "phenomenon".

Authorities at Kaziranga National Park have also informed the chief conservator of forests of the new trend.

Tigers killed 20 rhinos at Kaziranga last year, while this year eight rhinos have fallen prey to the big cats.

"The worrying part is that tigers have started killing full grown rhinos. Earlier it was only the calves the tigers used to attack but now the full grown rhinos are being targeted," said Bankim Sharma, the divisional forest official of the park.

Last evening, three tigers, probably a mother and her two grown calves, attacked an adult rhino near the East Haldhibari anti-poaching camp in the Kohora range of the park.

"It must have taken several hours for the tigers to nail the rhino. The entire area looked like a war zone with crushed grass and plants. The rhino had probably given up when it got stuck in the mud in a nearby water body," the forest official said.

Forest officials later retrieved the rhino's horn.

On February 26, a pregnant rhino was killed by tigers at Rutikhowa beel under Bagori range.

Gunin Saikia, another forest at Kaziranga, said there have been no instances of tigers attacking full grown rhinos till now.

Saikia said female rhinos generally venture out of the park along with their calves at night to escape from tiger attacks, since rhino calves are easy prey for tigers.

"But tigers always keep away from full grown rhinos," he said.

The divisional forest official said male rhinos usually stay alone and tigers are finding it easier to prey on them than buffaloes, which stay in large groups.

There has been an increase in tiger population in the park, which could be another reason for the attacks on rhinos, he said.

According to the last census conducted in 2000, 86 rhinos were found in Kaziranga.

"There is no doubt that the figure has gone up since then," the divisional forest official said.

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eh i dunno bout all that..tiger is larger..longer claws and teeth..more athletic and take down bigger prey...killing 150 pound hyena is hardly fighting, google rhino killed by tiger...lots of evidence..too much to post on here.. a tiger could knock a bear on his back and be on the throat in the blink of an eye... if u put the 2 in an enclosure and starved them i imagine grizz chances increase alot.

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Hey QB,
I have spent many a late night wondering about this subject.(I always had my money on a Grizzlie,too) Where does a giant Gorilla figure in the true king of the wild? What about an Elephant? Would an Elephant just stomp the shit out of anything else? I have a Welsh Corgi at home that could kick all their asses.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

size does not always win.... the larger the animal .. the faster they exhaust their body ... male tigers are 900 pounds not 600, 2 animals pitted against each other in front of humans cheering is not an accurate way to judge... it happens in the wild and sometimes the bear wins sometimes the tiger wins... n no i am not asian or have any vested interest in asia or tigers.. just from what i have seen and read over the years... watch a 120 lb cougar take a grizzly on ...tigers are 6 times that of a cougar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MuFDVE ... detailpage

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bro all i can tell u is .. on animal planet or discovery channel maybe nat geo... i have seen a show called wild russia... check it out.. they stated (this is not the 1st show or print magazine) that the tigers (350 - 360 kg ) are known to hunt the brown bears in their range... these brown bears are massive.. (coastal) browns like the kodiak.. it is a great show and films all over the world

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nah man .. this is my only name.. what is your friends website? i am not huge fan of captive animals..but would like to see his site. as far as this being a debate? nah u have your opinion..i have mine

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more negativity from johnnyfontane

Current Dan Hampton wishes he was half as tough as Laurence Holmes.

'85 Hampton was, indeed, half as tough...

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This is my signature...

Any Score Tough Guy list without Laurence at the top, is, well just wrong.

Panther, watch your back...Laurence will stab you.

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did Baldy McGrindy really host Score values?

I think so now...

Oh, a fight. I thought perhaps as BBQ.

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

That's Anne Mayfield, who, also could take ZZ

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

I would def. move Hanley up the list. He may be getting up there in age, but just look at him. He is as feisty as they come.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

<º)))><

Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

Terry has one last scrapper in him if necessary

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

The thing about Terry is that he has the reach advantage on roughly everyone.

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he has that simian-like appearance and arm span. He really kind of looks like an orangutan.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

So does Mully. I would guess he's 6'4" or so. He was taller than me and I'm 6'2"

I think Terry might be taller than me, but he does have a the slouch going, so hard to tell.

But he does have the massive mitts. Need to be bumped up.

I'd like to ad Herb as a top 5 and then Conor and Joe O in the ZZ range.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

What about rosenbloom? He's gotta be tougher than m. Gavin.

ZZ is rated way too high.

I've seen chicks from the promotions department that could probably kick his ass.

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