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This is a must listen episode of The Full Go. Lots of Score history and very sincere personal comments from Goff.


I’ll wait for the reader’s digest version.

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I think his current partner is a therapist, because he has spoken favorably about therapy after dismissing mental illness and the treatment thereof as other things that Brothers Don't Do.


Not just a therapist, a sex therapist on TV

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engaged since 2021...playa!

It is some delicious irony that a woman on a show name "Married at First Sight" would be engaged for three years.


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How dare they not used Bernstein's wife to plan the big party...

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they were also looking forward to a big sex reveal party.


This feels oddly worded.

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Gotta love those shot gun weddings.

Just kidding, Goff. Christ, it’s about time for you. I think you’ve spent half your life engaged.

Congratulations. Both with the sex therapist new bride and the baby girl.


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That has some Hair Club for Men vibes... He's not just her husband, he's her client...

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I haven't watched a minute of Bulls on local. Is Goff still on pre and post?

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I haven't watched a minute of Bulls on local. Is Goff still on pre and post?

I haven't watched, but I remember seeing when CHSN ended up signing him and all of the other ex-CSNCH pre/post people.

I can't blame him for turning that down to stay in the bulls job. Sports radio is very ratings focused and it's easy to get fired from that job while those pre/post-game people stick around.

I can't imagine that the new TV station is making much money though. No one is watching it and that's going to have some very negative downhill ramifications for the teams that used to collect some nice revenue from the old channel.

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I think in the long run, having 4 million people(or whatever a $30 dollar antenna can service) with free access to games on TV is a good thing. At worst, it can't hurt.


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I think in the long run, having 4 million people(or whatever a $30 dollar antenna can service) with free access to games on TV is a good thing. At worst, it can't hurt.

It's going to have major ramifications across sports leagues. The RSN money under the old model is one of the things that had really pushed revenue growth. That's going to come crashing down to earth and I can't see anything good coming from it for a lot of teams.

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I think in the long run, having 4 million people(or whatever a $30 dollar antenna can service) with free access to games on TV is a good thing. At worst, it can't hurt.

It's going to have major ramifications across sports leagues. The RSN money under the old model is one of the things that had really pushed revenue growth. That's going to come crashing down to earth and I can't see anything good coming from it for a lot of teams.


I see Nardi's point. I've watched a few Bulls games this year, based solely on accessibility, after not having watched a single second of Bulls basketball for several years before this one. Also, yes, Goff is doing pre and post. However, especially in baseball, the disappearance of a stream of a revenue that allowed you to collect $X every month from everyone with a cable bill in the Chicago metro area, has got to hurt.


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However, especially in baseball, the disappearance of a stream of a revenue that allowed you to collect $X every month from everyone with a cable bill in the Chicago metro area, has got to hurt.

That's why I firmly believe there's cost certainty coming even if it takes a lockout to get it. They desperately need spending to be a function of revenue.

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I haven't watched a minute of Bulls on local. Is Goff still on pre and post?

I haven't watched, but I remember seeing when CHSN ended up signing him and all of the other ex-CSNCH pre/post people.

I can't blame him for turning that down to stay in the bulls job. Sports radio is very ratings focused and it's easy to get fired from that job while those pre/post-game people stick around.

I can't imagine that the new TV station is making much money though. No one is watching it and that's going to have some very negative downhill ramifications for the teams that used to collect some nice revenue from the old channel.


Is there any reason he couldn't do both? The stated sticking point is that he would have had to give up the podcast no one consumes, not the pre game show no one consumes.

I think Goff is just a guy like Mc Neil, where he is going to get in his own way on the path to success. He should be bigger in this town and it isn't from lack of opportunities.

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Forget calling it opportunity, he got pushed like the owner of the station was Vince McMahon. Despite no on-air reps, he makes his way from producing the hottest show in the lineup to being a half-third chair for a little bit before getting offered a show in another top-10 market town.

Then, after he took money from that station's bottom line with his side dealing, he was made to pay the penance of doing a satellite radio show from his condo for a bit. He then gets hired to a daypart in Chicago for the station he left, and then despite being the more junior talent, leapfrogs his on-air partner to drivetime.

Oddly enough both Goff and Mac ultimately met their respective ends at the station due in no small part to Dan Bernstein.


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However, especially in baseball, the disappearance of a stream of a revenue that allowed you to collect $X every month from everyone with a cable bill in the Chicago metro area, has got to hurt.

That's why I firmly believe there's cost certainty coming even if it takes a lockout to get it. They desperately need spending to be a function of revenue.


What exactly do you mean by "cost certainty?" MLB already has some level of cost certainty through the arbitration system (no free agency until six years of service time). Are you talking about NBA style max contracts, or something else?


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Forget calling it opportunity, he got pushed like the owner of the station was Vince McMahon. Despite no on-air reps, he makes his way from producing the hottest show in the lineup to being a half-third chair for a little bit before getting offered a show in another top-10 market town.

Then, after he took money from that station's bottom line with his side dealing, he was made to pay the penance of doing a satellite radio show from his condo for a bit. He then gets hired to a daypart in Chicago for the station he left, and then despite being the more junior talent, leapfrogs his on-air partner to drivetime.

Oddly enough both Goff and Mac ultimately met their respective ends at the station due in no small part to Dan Bernstein.


Was there somebody from the producer ranks who was more worthy of a shot than Goff? The slap in the face to everyone wasn't Goff, it was "Chicago guy" Danny Parkins.


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Forget calling it opportunity, he got pushed like the owner of the station was Vince McMahon. Despite no on-air reps, he makes his way from producing the hottest show in the lineup to being a half-third chair for a little bit before getting offered a show in another top-10 market town.

Then, after he took money from that station's bottom line with his side dealing, he was made to pay the penance of doing a satellite radio show from his condo for a bit. He then gets hired to a daypart in Chicago for the station he left, and then despite being the more junior talent, leapfrogs his on-air partner to drivetime.

Oddly enough both Goff and Mac ultimately met their respective ends at the station due in no small part to Dan Bernstein.


Was there somebody from the producer ranks who was more worthy of a shot than Goff? The slap in the face to everyone wasn't Goff, it was "Chicago guy" Danny Parkins.

I don't remember the producer ranks at the time Goff left B&B for Atlanta, but I think the one who had the most obvious aspirations of hosting was Drinky, but I don't think he had the chops that Goff did.

I think the Atlanta gig was a gift orchestrated on some level by Mitch, but his salsa activities should have branded him with nuclear heat for a lot longer than he actually suffered professionally for it, and he even fell into a Sirius gig.

Bringing him back into the fold after how he got fired was a gigantic middle finger to Leery, who had done his time for Hamp and Holmes by that point, and then promoting him to afternoon drive ahead of Spiegel who had been the good soldier dealing with a pill popping Mac and whatever the hell Mannelly was (and still delivering some amount of ratings success) was loosing both finger gun barrels to be sure.

What's more, throughout all of this Jason's demeanor was and endless stream of "nobody has ever given me nothing, playa"-isms as he and Dan drove their afternoon show into the side of a mountain for funsies.


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He fell into a Sirius gig and for a while an ESPN weekend co-hosting gig. He thought he was the next Bomani Jones.

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I don't remember the producer ranks at the time Goff left B&B for Atlanta, but I think the one who had the most obvious aspirations of hosting was Drinky, but I don't think he had the chops that Goff did.

I think the Atlanta gig was a gift orchestrated on some level by Mitch, but his salsa activities should have branded him with nuclear heat for a lot longer than he actually suffered professionally for it, and he even fell into a Sirius gig.

Bringing him back into the fold after how he got fired was a gigantic middle finger to Leery, who had done his time for Hamp and Holmes by that point, and then promoting him to afternoon drive ahead of Spiegel who had been the good soldier dealing with a pill popping Mac and whatever the hell Mannelly was (and still delivering some amount of ratings success) was loosing both finger gun barrels to be sure.

What's more, throughout all of this Jason's demeanor was and endless stream of "nobody has ever given me nothing, playa"-isms as he and Dan drove their afternoon show into the side of a mountain for funsies.


I swore I said it in this thread but I can't find where I said it, so maybe it got deleted or it was a case of the ol' Beardown Special.

Anyway, what I said was that Jason did a podcast where he detailed his entire history at the Score from day one, which consisted of people at the Score thinking he was a really cool guy and giving him break after break out of benevolence, reciprocity, labor exploitation, or benign neglect. Then, after recounting how early producers broke regulations by putting him on the air underage, or how Terry was too sick or checked out to mind him making himself a co-host, or how Mitch let him take press credentials to a Bulls game and declare himself a beat reporter, he came to the conclusion that no one has ever done anything for him and he did it all himself. And yeah, even after squandering the farm-team assignment Mitch put him on by fucking over the account reps, he got to come back home a conquering hero and get afternoon drive. Jason would say it was because his undeniable on-air talent won out in the end. I think it was more just that his boss liked him a lot.

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What exactly do you mean by "cost certainty?"

Payroll tied to revenue with escrow clawbacks to ensure a 50/50 split. NHL's system. I believe MLB uses the same labor-law firm, Proskauer Rose.

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Congratulations to Jason and good luck as a father and husband


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Warren Newson wrote:
What exactly do you mean by "cost certainty?"

Payroll tied to revenue with escrow clawbacks to ensure a 50/50 split. NHL's system. I believe MLB uses the same labor-law firm, Proskauer Rose.


We all know that somehow for some reason the players are undefeated in these matters of cost certainty.

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I haven't watched a minute of Bulls on local. Is Goff still on pre and post?

I haven't watched, but I remember seeing when CHSN ended up signing him and all of the other ex-CSNCH pre/post people.

I can't blame him for turning that down to stay in the bulls job. Sports radio is very ratings focused and it's easy to get fired from that job while those pre/post-game people stick around.

I can't imagine that the new TV station is making much money though. No one is watching it and that's going to have some very negative downhill ramifications for the teams that used to collect some nice revenue from the old channel.


Is there any reason he couldn't do both? The stated sticking point is that he would have had to give up the podcast no one consumes, not the pre game show no one consumes.

I think Goff is just a guy like Mc Neil, where he is going to get in his own way on the path to success. He should be bigger in this town and it isn't from lack of opportunities.


We have no idea how his Ringer podcast does. There's no ratings system. Spotify hasn't been too cautious axing them and his has survived.


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Hey Goff, did you at least have a reception. Or some sort of party after words? I get the eloping thing with her being all pregnant. But did you at least buy out a room at a restaurant for a few people? I would have done it for the gifts if I were you. You know some rich people. Could have gotten some cash. If so, what old SCORE people did you invite?

Light em up who would Goff invite for this if he did have one?


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Hey Goff, did you at least have a reception. Or some sort of party after words? I get the eloping thing with her being all pregnant. But did you at least buy out a room at a restaurant for a few people? I would have done it for the gifts if I were you. You know some rich people. Could have gotten some cash. If so, what old SCORE people did you invite?

Light em up who would Goff invite for this if he did have one?


I'm cursed with the ability to Google.

Reception is in July https://www.theknot.com/us/pia-holec-an ... f-jul-2025


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Hey Goff, did you at least have a reception. Or some sort of party after words? I get the eloping thing with her being all pregnant. But did you at least buy out a room at a restaurant for a few people? I would have done it for the gifts if I were you. You know some rich people. Could have gotten some cash. If so, what old SCORE people did you invite?

Light em up who would Goff invite for this if he did have one?


I'm cursed with the ability to Google.

Reception is in July https://www.theknot.com/us/pia-holec-an ... f-jul-2025


Why is the only picture they have up there missing his head?

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Hey Goff, did you at least have a reception. Or some sort of party after words? I get the eloping thing with her being all pregnant. But did you at least buy out a room at a restaurant for a few people? I would have done it for the gifts if I were you. You know some rich people. Could have gotten some cash. If so, what old SCORE people did you invite?

Light em up who would Goff invite for this if he did have one?


I'm cursed with the ability to Google.

Reception is in July https://www.theknot.com/us/pia-holec-an ... f-jul-2025


Why is the only picture they have up there missing his head?

Image


Those are not going to age well. In ten years they will be down to her knees. Unless he bought em for her.

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Hey Goff, did you at least have a reception. Or some sort of party after words? I get the eloping thing with her being all pregnant. But did you at least buy out a room at a restaurant for a few people? I would have done it for the gifts if I were you. You know some rich people. Could have gotten some cash. If so, what old SCORE people did you invite?

Light em up who would Goff invite for this if he did have one?


I'm cursed with the ability to Google.

Reception is in July https://www.theknot.com/us/pia-holec-an ... f-jul-2025


Why is the only picture they have up there missing his head?

Image


Those are not going to age well. In ten years they will be down to her knees. Unless he bought em for her.


Plus she looks a little thick. I give it 2 years at most.


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