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Her real beef should be with Twitter. If she's on a quest to rid the world of assholes, she's probably not going to succeed.

Attack Twitter, make them go out of business and setup a new, more business-friendly environment for social discourse. That should be her goal.

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It really is amazing how many people don't really understand social media. It's just various platforms to facilitate human interaction. Controlled social media is boring. It's the equivalent of "we just have to play them one game at a time." Every reporter worth his/her salt is going to hate those types of responses from an interview subject, but some of them seem to want it on a personal level.

Harness racing is a good example. There are a handful of real fans that tweet on the subject. Sometimes they lose bets and get nasty. Most of their shit is negative. I'm sure spmack may follow some of these guys (Greg Reinhart, Pull The Pocket, Inside The Pylons, etc.) But what they are is real. The harness racing establishment hates these guys. They want controlled social media. They're spending all kinds of money on a heavily moderated forum called Harness Fan Zone which nobody uses.

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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The major point here is that with either of those, she is right to consider herself attacked and a victim.

I don't think so. If you falsely accuse someone of rape loudly and publicly, don't apologize or admit you are wrong, and then viciously attack anyone who points out the facts of the case(sometimes going as far as threatening to have them fired), you don't get to consider yourself a victim when people call you terrible words. She is a terrible human being. I don't really care if she "deserves" the comments or was "asking for it". It's just a fact of life that if you carry yourself that way people are going to think you are nasty, terrible person and treat you as such.
That didn't counteract my statement in the least.

If you think she is a horrible human being and deserves all of the treatment she gets then that is your opinion. However, anyone on the receiving end of it would not say "Yeah, I'm just a horrible human being and I deserve it".

That's not really relevant though. Just because she deludes herself into thinking she hasn't brought this negative attention on to herself, doesn't mean we need to play along with that delusion. JORR has already given at least a dozen examples I think of women in sports on Twitter who don't receive this type of vitriol. I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't believe they deserve whatever consequences of their actions have been. Who gives a shit?

Also, it did counteract your post because I am saying she does not have the right to consider herself a victim, and explained why. And once again, this isn't saying she "deserves or is asking for it" because honestly that's not really relevant either. It's just how things are when you carry yourself the way someone like she does.

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Also, it did counteract your post because I am saying she does not have the right to consider herself a victim, and explained why. And once again, this isn't saying she "deserves or is asking for it" because honestly that's not really relevant either. It's just how things are when you carry yourself the way someone like she does.
So, just to be clear, if she wasn't a "horrible human being" then the treatment of her would be wrong and she would be a victim? Is that correct?

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I actually think the insults on twitter and other social media is a good thing.

It's just people having a bad day and taking their frustrations out on people they don't know. Isn't that better than kicking the dog or beating the wife and kids. I think so. I think twitter insults has probably cut down on domestic violence.

So go ahead. Insult me. If that means your wives or girlfriends don't take a beating, then I'm helping the world.


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Also, it did counteract your post because I am saying she does not have the right to consider herself a victim, and explained why. And once again, this isn't saying she "deserves or is asking for it" because honestly that's not really relevant either. It's just how things are when you carry yourself the way someone like she does.
So, just to be clear, if she wasn't a "horrible human being" then the treatment of her would be wrong and she would be a victim? Is that correct?

It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.

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Quoting from her media tour today

But to take it one step further, and to decide, I don’t like the way you cover the Patrick Kane case and try to destroy your reputation every chance I get, is something much different. I don’t really know what drives that. That’s the question Twitter has to get a handle on. These guys don’t necessarily send you tweets that say “I hope you get raped,” or “I want to kill you.” They send you sort of the just-this-side-of-the-line tweets, all day, every day, for nine months. You suck, you’re horrible, you’re terrible, I know you made up your sources, I know that you’re a liar, no one listens to you, your boss should fire you.

Wonder if she mentioned that she has you know, contacted people's HR departments to try get that person fired

They seem sort of harmless in and of themselves, which is how Twitter looks at them. But when you have five or six people sending you that stuff for literally 12 hours a day, every day, for nine months, it gets to be a lot. If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment. But Twitter lets it go on; they don’t have a good way to get these guys out of your life. I’ve been living with them for the past nine months, even though I’ve blocked them. Twitter needs to get a handle on that issue. The bottom line is that blocking doesn’t really work; they still haven’t figured out how to make blocking effective. I go to these guys’ accounts and look at them from time to time, and they’re just quoting my tweets and commenting on everything I do and say, even though I’ve blocked them. It’s a real problem.



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All she is doing is looking to be a victim. She does realize that someone does not have to be logged on to twitter to see her comments right? Can't she set her account to private to prevent anybody from viewing her tweets she doesn't want?

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 Post subject: Re: Julie DiCaro!!!
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It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.
Except it did before Kane did what he didn't do in Buffalo.

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I look forward to Bricks controlled utopian future where the music is better and people don't say mean things to each other anywhere . Constant haranguing on message boards will still be allowed of course .

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I look forward to Bricks controlled utopian future where the music is better and people don't say mean things to each other anywhere . Constant haranguing on message boards will still be allowed of course .


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I look forward to Bricks controlled utopian future where the music is better and people don't say mean things to each other anywhere . Constant haranguing on message boards will still be allowed of course .


Of course, the government won't control this, because it's terrible for THE GOVERNMENT to control your life. This world will be controlled by...engineers?

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Waddle and Silvy just said they don't run with accusations and it's better to be right than first.

Are people right with what they say to her? No. My question is what does she really expect though? She was downright awful with the Kane reporting and then turned herself into the story. She's an absolutely atrocious reporter and a seemingly horrible person. When you behave that way people will treat you that way.


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Of course, the government won't control this, because it's terrible for THE GOVERNMENT to control your life. This world will be controlled by...engineers?


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Her real beef should be with Twitter. If she's on a quest to rid the world of assholes, she's probably not going to succeed.

Attack Twitter, make them go out of business and setup a new, more business-friendly environment for social discourse. That should be her goal.

Good luck.



Anyone who wants to can find heavily moderated sites where people are forced to be reasonably polite. The problem is, the number of users is limited. :lol:

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because it's terrible for THE GOVERNMENT to control your life.
:lol: What?

I can't even tell if this is a shot at me, but given how embarrassing your performance was with Bernie and with the Hawks threads I'm going to guess this was just another big swing and a miss.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Her real beef should be with Twitter. If she's on a quest to rid the world of assholes, she's probably not going to succeed.

Attack Twitter, make them go out of business and setup a new, more business-friendly environment for social discourse. That should be her goal.

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Anyone who wants to can find heavily moderated sites where people are forced to be reasonably polite. The problem is, the number of users is limited. :lol:

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It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.
Except it did before Kane did what he didn't do in Buffalo.

No, not really. You are taking one "leave money on the dresser" comment from rogue, which wasn't even said to her directly, and extrapolating it to being the same as multiple guys tweeting direct rape threats at her. If we are focusing on how awful the comments she is getting are, let's at least stay on topic.

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It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.
Except it did before Kane did what he didn't do in Buffalo.

No, not really. You are taking one "leave money on the dresser" comment from rogue, which wasn'teven said to her directly, and extrapolating it to being the same as multiple guys tweeting direct rape threats at her. If we are focusing on how awful the comments she is getting are, let's at least stay on topic.
There was a lot more than that but they are gone now and you know that.

Considering you didn't even know that the "leave the money on the dresser" was said directly to her on twitter I think I may know more on this topic.

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Waddle and Silvy just said they don't run with accusations and it's better to be right than first.

Are people right with what they say to her? No. My question is what does she really expect though? She was downright awful with the Kane reporting and then turned herself into the story. She's an absolutely atrocious reporter and a seemingly horrible person. When you behave that way people will treat you that way.


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Considering you didn't even know that the "leave the money on the dresser" was said directly to her on twitter I think I may know more on this topic.

I have no doubt that you know more about all of this than I do because I only visit this thread occasionally, but all of your conclusions are wrong. Also, since you know more about this correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that comment from rogue was not said just because she is a woman who went to the Score. IIRC, while she was on The Game she came out pretty stong against Bernsie and Spiegs for that stupid twitter boobs scandal, and then immediately took a job alongside them when The Game folded. Kerry Sayers was terrible at her job and there were threads here saying that. I don't remember anyone tweeting nasty things at her. It's pretty clear what the variables here are.

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Considering you didn't even know that the "leave the money on the dresser" was said directly to her on twitter I think I may know more on this topic.

I have no doubt that you know more about all of this than I do because I only visit this thread occasionally, but all of your conclusions are wrong. Also, since you know more about this correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that comment from rogue was not said just because she is a woman who went to the Score. IIRC, while she was on The Game she came out pretty stong against Bernsie and Spiegs for that stupid twitter boobs scandal, and then immediately took a job alongside them when The Game folded. Kerry Sayers was terrible at her job and there were threads here saying that. I don't remember anyone tweeting nasty things at her. It's pretty clear what the variables here are.
I believe The Game was already off the air by the time that scandal happened.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.
Except it did before Kane did what he didn't do in Buffalo.

No, not really. You are taking one "leave money on the dresser" comment from rogue, which wasn'teven said to her directly, and extrapolating it to being the same as multiple guys tweeting direct rape threats at her. If we are focusing on how awful the comments she is getting are, let's at least stay on topic.
There was a lot more than that but they are gone now and you know that.

I think I may know more on this topic.

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Considering you didn't even know that the "leave the money on the dresser" was said directly to her on twitter I think I may know more on this topic.

I have no doubt that you know more about all of this than I do because I only visit this thread occasionally, but all of your conclusions are wrong. Also, since you know more about this correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that comment from rogue was not said just because she is a woman who went to the Score. IIRC, while she was on The Game she came out pretty stong against Bernsie and Spiegs for that stupid twitter boobs scandal, and then immediately took a job alongside them when The Game folded. Kerry Sayers was terrible at her job and there were threads here saying that. I don't remember anyone tweeting nasty things at her. It's pretty clear what the variables here are.
I believe The Game was already off the air by the time that scandal happened.

It may have been. Pretty sure my post is still correct about her going after Spiegs and Bernsie.

Either way, I guess we just agree to disagree. I just think it's a bit weird that you're defending someone who is such a vile, hateful human being. This is not the hill SJWs want to die on.

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It may have been. Pretty sure my post is still correct.
How could that be? :lol:

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It may have been. Pretty sure my post is still correct.
How could that be? :lol:

I edited it. The last 5 or so posts you keep arguing technicalities and semantics. I'm taking that to mean you know I am right and just like to argue. You haven't once tried a merit-based defense of Julie DiCaro.

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Waddle and Silvy just said they don't run with accusations and it's better to be right than first.

Are people right with what they say to her? No. My question is what does she really expect though? She was downright awful with the Kane reporting and then turned herself into the story. She's an absolutely atrocious reporter and a seemingly horrible person. When you behave that way people will treat you that way.


The calm voice of reason, nails it. Nice job, Spaulding.



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It may have been. Pretty sure my post is still correct.
How could that be? :lol:

I edited it. The last 5 or so posts you keep arguing technicalities and semantics. I'm taking that to mean you know I am right and just like to argue. You haven't once tried a merit-based defense of Julie DiCaro.
Your whole point was that she did that at The Game. :lol: So, it's a little more than a technicality.

To the best of my knowledge, she never said ANYTHING about Bernstein prior to being hired.

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It's almost correct. If she carried herself like a normal, decent human being, the "treatment of her" would not exist.
Except it did before Kane did what he didn't do in Buffalo.

No, not really. You are taking one "leave money on the dresser" comment from rogue, which wasn'teven said to her directly, and extrapolating it to being the same as multiple guys tweeting direct rape threats at her. If we are focusing on how awful the comments she is getting are, let's at least stay on topic.
There was a lot more than that but they are gone now and you know that.

I think I may know more on this topic.

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