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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:05 pm 
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The broadcast is pixelly at times and cuts out quite a bit. I don't love this. Anyone else having an issue.


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The broadcast is pixelly at times and cuts out quite a bit. I don't love this. Anyone else having an issue.

That much be OTA antenna issues. I was watching through ESPN+ on my Roku since I'm out of market, and other than them forgetting the PK time left in the first period and Panger wanting to suck off Pat Maroon at times it was fine.

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The broadcast is pixelly at times and cuts out quite a bit. I don't love this. Anyone else having an issue.

My issue is that I have Comcast. I can't see a thing!

It's so embarrassing how poorly Chicago is navigating the RSN upheaval, especially when "can't watch the games" was a sore spot for one of the teams involved as recently as 2008. If New York and Boston can figure out how to go DTC while maintaining a traditional cable presence, we should have been able to as well. Sticking games on an OTA digital subchannel that no one can pick up clearly is not it.

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The broadcast is pixelly at times and cuts out quite a bit. I don't love this. Anyone else having an issue.

My issue is that I have Comcast. I can't see a thing!

It's so embarrassing how poorly Chicago is navigating the RSN upheaval, especially when "can't watch the games" was a sore spot for one of the teams involved as recently as 2008.


Not to mention a historic Achilles heel for the Sox in their struggle for fans vs. the Cubs.

Everyone just get DirecTV or watch the Wolves I guess, like it's 1998.


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There was no struggle. Sox management just handed them over. "7 time Champion" Jerry Reinsdorf's 5 decade history is clear. The fan base is a subdivision.

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pat boyle sounds like he's hosting from apollo 13's lunar module. caley's an adult woman with kids, doesn't need glitter on her cheeks, corey isn't around anymore.


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Who needs NBC when you have the owners of the Fox affiliate in the Paducah-Cape Girardeau market (#90 in the rankings but #1 in our hearts)?

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I believe the Cubs/Marquee ands Brewers/Bucks/Ballys have direct to consumer streaming for in market people now. Given the how shitty the Sox/Bulls/Hawks are, they should go to that and make it free. At least try to build a fan base. And accept cheap carriage fees to make sure you are on every service.

Do any of those teams really think that people are going pay large amounts of money to watch the crap on the field/court/ice? At least I could buy the package and get the game, which I do for MLB. Not worth it for the NBA and NHL at this point.

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Bally just dropped the Brewers this week, actually. No word yet on whether they'll be over the air or available to cable subscribers as well.

I'd love to know what Reinsdorf is looking for in terms of carriage fees. NBC Sports Chicago was charging $9/mo, looks like Marquee came out of the gate looking for $7 but got talked down to $4.

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As a YouTube TV subscriber, this isn't available on that, correct? Probably not going to be either? If you have an antenna, how do you actually find a station? Do you have to switch the TV to some setting to get to the free channels from an antenna?

For a newer (probably about 5 years old Samsung) TV, do those have some antenna option on the back?

What antenna would be recommended?


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As a YouTube TV subscriber, this isn't available on that, correct? Probably not going to be either? If you have an antenna, how do you actually find a station? Do you have to switch the TV to some setting to get to the free channels from an antenna?

For a newer (probably about 5 years old Samsung) TV, do those have some antenna option on the back?

What antenna would be recommended?

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You buy a digital antenna and hook it up to the co-ax jack where you'd hook up cable. Then you run a scan of channels in range and hope that it finds channel 62. It's just like watching TV with the old rabbit-ears and radial antennae except slightly more complicated and annoying. Hope you live within like 30 miles of the Loop or you're probably screwed!

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I picked up a digital antenna to watch the Hawks. Best part was watching the Bears game OTA which is at least 30-45 seconds ahead of the game feed with XFinity. Really fucks up chats when you’re insanely ahead of everyone else.


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Yeah where I live the entire antenna idea is pretty much useless. Not to mention no pause, rewind. Wouldn't be surprised that if I could find this mysterious channel it would be Balck and White and 4x3


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I'm for saving money but would never nickel & dime jump through hoops for my sports TV viewing.


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Depending on your home layout, if you are farther out you could try putting the antenna in or near a Chicago-facing window on the second floor and use a long cable to connect it to the tv.

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Depending on your home layout, if you are farther out you could try putting the antenna in or near a Chicago-facing window on the second floor and use a long cable to connect it to the tv.


Isn't this how Alan Harper broke his wrists? :lol:


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You buy a digital antenna and hook it up to the co-ax jack where you'd hook up cable. Then you run a scan of channels in range and hope that it finds channel 62. It's just like watching TV with the old rabbit-ears and radial antennae except slightly more complicated and annoying. Hope you live within like 30 miles of the Loop or you're probably screwed!


One thing that hasn't changed from those old days, channel 2's reception sucks!


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You buy a digital antenna and hook it up to the co-ax jack where you'd hook up cable. Then you run a scan of channels in range and hope that it finds channel 62. It's just like watching TV with the old rabbit-ears and radial antennae except slightly more complicated and annoying. Hope you live within like 30 miles of the Loop or you're probably screwed!


One thing that hasn't changed from those old days, channel 2's reception sucks!


I cannot remember the number but there is some subchannel where it comes in just fine.

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Making a bad product hard to find is not exactly a recipe for success. The fandom for baseball especially is aging rapidly,


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As a YouTube TV subscriber, this isn't available on that, correct? Probably not going to be either? If you have an antenna, how do you actually find a station? Do you have to switch the TV to some setting to get to the free channels from an antenna?

For a newer (probably about 5 years old Samsung) TV, do those have some antenna option on the back?

What antenna would be recommended?

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It looks like WJYS has since moved its transmitter from Tinley Park to the Sears Tower, but still broadcasts at a considerably lower wattage than other UHF stations on the Sears and Hancock. The FCC claims that this is their contour map; I think that's being extremely generous.

Why doesn't the NHL care about this blackhawks broadcast situation?


I'd lay odds Gary Bettman doesn't even realize they switched stations...



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Read a few interesting articles about the implosion of the RSN's and how they are moving back to linear TV for local sports.

Maybe they can get Tru-Link back as a sponsor?

One of the articles mentioned how linear TV attracts younger fans as they can easily access the product for free, isn't that how the Cubs got me and all my grade school cronies, we all would watch the last innings of the game after school and then go out and try to copy the players batting stances, and of course there were those busloads of people coming in from Iowa who got hooked watching the games on the superstation.

Seems we are going back to the future here.


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Interesting long article in the Tribune.


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Well you gonna tell us something about it or give a link or an excerpt or anything really?

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Well you gonna tell us something about it or give a link or an excerpt or anything really?

he is waiting for someone to read it to him

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/10/ ... wks-bulls/


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I'll even add to this the Athletic article follow up
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CHICAGO — A direct-to-consumer app through which Chicago Blackhawks, Bulls and White Sox fans can access all of the fledgling Chicago Sports Network’s programming is just about ready to go. But the network is resistant to go live on the app until they work out a deal with Comcast Xfinity.

And it might be a while.

CHSN and Comcast have been haggling over whether to place the network on Comcast’s highest, most expensive tier. CHSN has been holding out for a spot on the same middle tier that the now-defunct NBC Sports Chicago was on. However, on Saturday, Jason Coyle, president of CHSN, said there have been no offers from Comcast whatsoever, even though CHSN is “voluntarily taking a significant haircut” financially with its latest offer to the cable giant.

“There’s been an active dialogue,” Coyle said. “(But) the ball is in their court.”

The Athletic has reached out to Comcast for comment.

Coyle pushed back hard against a Chicago Tribune story that said the over-the-air component of CHSN has been a “poison pill” in the negotiations. CHSN is available for free to viewers with an antenna, with free channels in Indianapolis, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and Fort Wayne, Ind., soon to go live. But Blackhawks fans have been very vocal on social media and directly to CHSN about having to purchase and install an antenna, and about the glitchy signal fans farther from downtown are receiving. Even with Connor Bedard starting his second season and returning fan-favorite Teuvo Teräväinen lighting up the scoreboard early, the CHSN fiasco has been the dominant story of the young season.

With the Bulls season opening next week, that outcry is about to get a lot louder.

Coyle said that the OTA component is not an issue in the negotiations, noting that local networks such as CBS, NBC, ABC and Fox are available both OTA and on cable. He said that there have been “no over-the-air complaints” from Comcast during the negotiations.

“They (Comcast) have to know that their customers don’t see the antenna as a ready substitute,” Coyle said. “Just as we don’t. … We don’t want people to cut the cord. That’s not in our interest.”

So far, CHSN is available on DirecTV, DirecTV Stream, U-verse, Astound/RCN and several smaller providers in the Blackhawks’ five-state footprint. Fubo is a good bet to go live soon. But YouTubeTV and Hulu Live customers likely will have to wait for (and pay for) the direct-to-consumer app whenever it comes, as neither streamer is really in the market for local sports.

At some point, CHSN might decide to go live on the app even if it doesn’t have carriage on Comcast. But the network isn’t there yet.

“I don’t know if we’re ready to draw a line in the sand,” Coyle said.

That said, “We’re not going to wait forever,” he added.


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Salt Lake City is having the same issue with their OTA channel as we are: https://www.fox13now.com/sports/utah-ho ... ry-utah-16


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With the puck set to drop on the inaugural season of the Utah Hockey Club, fans hoping to watch their new favorite team continue to be iced out by Comcast.

After negotiations with Scripps Sports, Comcast has failed to agree to carry Utah 16, the home of the Utah Hockey Club, on its systems.

The team will open the season Tuesday against the Chicago Blackhawks on ESPN, with the first locally broadcast game set for Thursday at home, with Utah facing the New York Islanders. Scripps Sports will simulcast the Islanders-Utah game live on FOX 13.

“Tuesday marks a historic day in Utah, and Scripps Sports is very disappointed that Comcast has chosen not to give its subscribers access to Utah 16, the broadcast home of the Utah Hockey Club," said Scripps Sports President Brian Lawlor. "Despite our repeated attempts to work with Comcast to provide this channel to the residents of Utah, Comcast has made it clear that broadcasting Utah Hockey Club is not a priority for them."

Comcast subscribers are urged to call Comcast and let them know they want access to Utah 16 and all non-nationally exclusive local Utah Hockey Club games. Fans can still watch Utah Hockey Club games over-the-air with a digital antenna (channel 16.1), on Utah Hockey Club’s streaming service UtahHC+, on streaming service Fubo, on DirecTV (Channel 16) and multiple other cable outlets.


Finding an OTA station so marginal that cable providers don't bother to pick it up seems to be a key part of the freemium business model. It's not enough to be on a local station that's also on cable; you need people to go through the rigmarole of buying an antenna, fussing with getting consistent reception, and then not being able to DVR it once they do, thus opting to just pay for the sure thing directly.

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