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Author:  Bud Dude [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Murph's game back theory
Is so wrong, why doesn't anyone call him out on this??

Do people call and they just don't get on?

He states this theory daily now with the Cubs where they are. Someone has got to call him out on this sooner or later.
Author:  Douchebag [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:19 pm ]
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I know it is hard to concentrate with "Summer of 69" blasting in the background, but can you please explain what the Game Back Theory is to us non-Murph listeners?
Author:  24_Guy [ Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:12 pm ]
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The theory is that, in the baseball standings, the correct way to calculate games back should be to sum up the number of games back behind ALL teams ahead of you in the standings.

I don't think it holds water. Now, it is true that it's better to be, say, 7 games out behind one team, than 7 games out with three teams ahead of you. But, simply adding up the games back from every position ahead of you is overkill.

It comes down to this. Among all the teams in your division, the team with the most wins will win x number of games. Your goal then, is to win x+1 number of games. The other teams don't matter.

If there are three teams ahead of you, the likelihood of x being a higher number is therefore stronger. But there's still only one team you have to really "catch". You just don't know which one it is.

Also you can't overlook that fact that the teams ahead of you will be playing each other. Which means, assuming your teams starts winning games, you are guaranteed to pick up games against some of them.
Author:  Pappy's Crappy [ Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
When the team in queston (the Cubs, to use Murph's example), wins ONE game, that ONE WIN automatically gains them a half-game on ALL THE TEAMS ahead of them (pending the results of those teams' games that day, of course). Therefore, I think Murph's formula needs to be tweaked so that the GB the teams other than the first-place team should only count half. In other words, if the Cubs are in fourth, 3 games out of first, 2 out of second, and 1 out of third, Murph would say they're 3 + 2 + 1 = 6 games out. I would say 3 + 1/2 x (2 + 1) = 4.5 games out is a better indicator.
Author:  Bud Dude [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
He just proved how wrong his own theory is.

According to him Cubs were 8 back Sunday Morning. Now on Monday Morning they are 5 back. You can only gain 1 game a day, not 3, therefore his theory is garbage and he just proved it.
Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
June 12
Author:  Beebo [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
Bud Dude wrote:
He just proved how wrong his own theory is.

According to him Cubs were 8 back Sunday Morning. Now on Monday Morning they are 5 back. You can only gain 1 game a day, not 3, therefore his theory is garbage and he just proved it.


Get on phone & explain to him. Even idiot ideas are there to help seed the show; to make the conversation interesting.
Author:  Scorehead [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:19 pm ]
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Bud Dude wrote:
He just proved how wrong his own theory is.

According to him Cubs were 8 back Sunday Morning. Now on Monday Morning they are 5 back. You can only gain 1 game a day, not 3, therefore his theory is garbage and he just proved it.


Isn't this a 3 game swing in one day? What am I missing here?
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
24_Guy wrote:
The theory is that, in the baseball standings, the correct way to calculate games back should be to sum up the number of games back behind ALL teams ahead of you in the standings.

I don't think it holds water. Now, it is true that it's better to be, say, 7 games out behind one team, than 7 games out with three teams ahead of you. But, simply adding up the games back from every position ahead of you is overkill.

It comes down to this. Among all the teams in your division, the team with the most wins will win x number of games. Your goal then, is to win x+1 number of games. The other teams don't matter.

If there are three teams ahead of you, the likelihood of x being a higher number is therefore stronger. But there's still only one team you have to really "catch". You just don't know which one it is.

Also you can't overlook that fact that the teams ahead of you will be playing each other. Which means, assuming your teams starts winning games, you are guaranteed to pick up games against some of them.


I agree with you. I never bought into that twisted bullshit either. 5 GB is 5GB back.
Author:  Bud Dude [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Murph's game back theory
He's going to run this theory of his into the ground isn't he?

Once again he is starting his show off telling us the Cubs were 11 total games behind at the end of May. If they were 11 games behind at the end of May they would not be 2.5 back this morning, even with their recent decent play.

Have a nice long vacation Murph.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:23 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
I know it is hard to concentrate with "Summer of 69" blasting in the background, but can you please explain what the Game Back Theory is to us non-Murph listeners?

That ball CRUSHED
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:15 pm ]
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Does this guy honestly wonder why he's been bumped off the air? :scratch:
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