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Author:  My Coach Vinny [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Free Unsolicited Advice for The Pappy Co.
Here's what you do:

1. Figure out how much money can you lose and still not go broke.

1. Help Weber, Fred, Jessie, Hood, Doug, and Ofman get out of whatever deals they have with DH.

2. Find a bean counter you trust who would have the fortitude to call you out when you get too full of it.

3. Take Space and Jessie and go sit down with Talkzone guys and get the best deal you can get for your use of facilities. Go all in - you need the hardware! Straight rent, profit sharing, whatever. Have the guy in #2 look at the detail before you agree to anything.

4. Make Jessie the Boss PD/Producer/Rolodex guy.

5. Forget everyone not specifically mentioned here. They will drag you down.

6. Get Grobber and Swieca.

7. Here are your shows:
- 9-1: Huebner & Weber
- 1-6: Hood & Buffone
- 6-10: Swieca
- 10-2: Grobber
- Ofman - the designated reporter. He seems to be OK going to games. Jessie - occasional reporter when he's not too busy booking interviews and producing.

8. Encourage everyone to sell ad time. Agressive commissions! 50/50 even.

9. This leaves you and Space. Here's what you two should be up to. SELL SELL SELL: cold calling, visits, leaflets. Get ad clients!

10. A year or so into this when you actually start making a small profit, start looking at terrestrial radio. Don't jump into this yet!

Good luck!
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:42 pm ]
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Why the hell bother? Even without the scam, webio was still failing. That's the good news kind of. Because it failed so bad Hernandez didn't have a succesful scam.
Author:  walkrman5 [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:46 pm ]
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and if that does not work out....start your own gambling web site and sell your picks! Brilliant!

North Sucks!
Author:  Regular Reader [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Free Unsolicited Advice for The Pappy Co.
My Coach Vinny wrote:
Here's what you do:

1. Figure out how much money can you lose and still not go broke.

1. Help Weber, Fred, Jessie, Hood, Doug, and Ofman get out of whatever deals they have with DH.


I seriously doubt that he'd read past the first No. 1. :lol:

Like his idol "Coatch", I wouldn't believe him to invest his $ in any venture, especially one talking about losses - or the spector of going broke. I think he'll just spread out a few checks for publicity after the initial embarassment has hit, just like his hero.
Author:  My Coach Vinny [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:48 pm ]
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Their cost structure sucked. Apparently (since he fired them) DH had Pappy, Space, and Be on the payroll. I imagine paid multiples of what the rest of the dopes made. Pappy and Space out of studio, off the payroll, on the streets selling = bigger top line, smaller middle line, bigger bottom line = fighting chance for success. Besides, him going OOP on costs will encourage him to sell like a mad man.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:49 pm ]
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Beardown wrote:
Why the hell bother? Even without the scam, webio was still failing. That's the good news kind of. Because it failed so bad Hernandez didn't have a succesful scam.


if i sat down, smoked a bowl, and tried really hard to come up with a dumber comment then that i couldn't.
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:50 pm ]
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1. After this Hernandez thing no legit investor will want to finance this thing.

2. No way in hell North would be willing to finance it. It's only a good idea to him when it's somebody else's money at risk.

3. How can they get any sponsors, even with a legit owner, with this in their past?
Author:  Eaglo Jeff [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:51 pm ]
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My Coach Vinny wrote:

6. Get Grobber and Swieca.
Good luck!

I don't think Swieca would leave her current job that she is happy and content with. Why would she want to come back for this headache?
Author:  SHARK [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:15 pm ]
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again until somebody gets a damn clue in their thick skulls...ChicagoSportsWebio.com needs to indefinitely suspend operations until they get their finances squared away & this David Hernandez character should be sent to the slammer for a long, long time.
Author:  RodeoVann [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:19 pm ]
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i bet that 750k looks pretty good now. pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought. whatever is next venture is, it will be out of his pocket, which is to bad.
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:23 pm ]
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RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.
Author:  Scorehead [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:27 pm ]
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RodeoVann wrote:
i bet that 750k looks pretty good now. pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought. whatever is next venture is, it will be out of his pocket, which is to bad.


Listen...there were thousands of savy investers who were duped by Bernie Madoff & many other financial investers.
Hernandez will go to jail, and North will be in the clear.
I would bet my left nut that North ends up with CSW and gets more investors.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:27 pm ]
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My Coach,
I had brought up the 50/50 in a previous post. Didn't Mike say in the beginning,these
guys were supposed to be out there searching for sponsors?

Your list of "to-do's" make a lot of sense. I don't understand how all these WEB sites,like Google,Yahoo,etc. literally made millions just by creating a web page and saling advertising
(I know it's based on # of hits but still!) & Webio can't find succees on a smaller scale.
Author:  IkeSouth [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:29 pm ]
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JohnKirk wrote:
Listen...there were thousands of savy investers who were duped by Bernie Madoff & many other financial investers.
Hernandez will go to jail, and North will be in the clear.
I would bet my left nut that North ends up with CSW and gets more investors.


this. north has never just gone away. nothing has ever stopped mike north from doing what he wants in showbiz. mike wants the webio back, and he will get it. everyone laughed when mike left the score saying "he has offers, plenty of oppertunities". everyone thought that was selling hotdogs again, while in reality he started HIS OWN FREAKIN RADIO STATION.
Author:  Scorehead [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:30 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.


Like I said yesterday, people who are obsessed with wishing failure on others are sad folks who themselves are failures. The world would be a better place without these negative cretins.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:32 pm ]
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JohnKirk wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.


Like I said yesterday, people who are obsessed with wishing failure on others are sad folks who themselves are failures. The world would be a better place without these negative cretins.


100% AGREE!
Author:  Supercup [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:34 pm ]
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Theres no way in hell anybody touches Nort after this.

Iam no doubt certain Comcast is just waiting to punt this fool out the door the second the money stops or the contracts up, hes put them in such a horrible light right now.

Seriously, who the fuck wants to be involved with somebody had a felon sugar daddy?Nort was so fucking stupid, how in the hell do you agree to anything without doing some sort of background check? I mean, you can get most info about a person online for FREE, oh wait, Mr Street smart isnt internet saavy yet can upload web cams, email, run a gambling failure, etc, fucking lying dumb ass.

By every passing second, Nort just keeps looking more and more stupid.
Author:  RodeoVann [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:35 pm ]
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Quote:
To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here


I am being fair to pappy, i said he was not to blame for this, but this situation makes him out to be clown, he says he is a great biz-man, street smarts and knows how the radio / webio biz works.....he just got schooled, which proves the only things i have been saying the last few years, he is a dumbass, who got a lucky contract, produced nothing for that big money and his ego got so out of control over those big bucks, he thought he could do it all...wrong. Pappy is totally in the clear on this so far and i dont expect it to change, but pappy inc. just took a major hit, a hit i dont think they will recover from, i could be wrong, but when u have a high school drop-out, his wife and a sales guy who cant get a job in radio sales any longer running it, the scammers will be lining up all day out side of pappy land.
Author:  Bucky Chris [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:37 pm ]
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I don't think that's the case. Bottom line is this: CSWebio is an investment. Whether it is a good one, or a bad one is tough to tell at this point with all of the lying Hernandez did.

However, if an investor could get their hands on REAL listener data, as well as the income from ads and of course the expenses, it might seem worthwhile. Of course, in my opinion, I am not sure it would be worth it however I think if they buddied up with a radio station that would change everything.
Author:  Spiral Stairs [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.


u r a funny fuck :lol: cmon please use my quote as ur signature again dr. dickbag
Author:  RodeoVann [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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Quote:
Like I said yesterday, people who are obsessed with wishing failure on others are sad folks who themselves are failures. The world would be a better place without these negative cretins.


John...i have never posted i wish failure on webby, fred or any of those guys, but pappy got schooled, mr. streetsmarts, mr. great wheeler and dealer, mr. radio god got taken, made to look like a idiot, because of that, good guys like fred, webby, hood and doyle had to suffer, so yes, its all on DH, but North is the one who didnt do his job, he should have checked this douchebag out, that is on his ass, he didnt and owes everyone at webio a apology for that.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:40 pm ]
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RodeoVann,
We should all be that "Dumb" or "Lucky" to get 1.4 mill for 3 or 4 years.
I envy him. I don't hate him but lately,it's one wrong move after the other.
He could have just put a show on the WEB by himself & not have all these
headaches.
Author:  Spiral Stairs [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:41 pm ]
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JohnKirk wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.


Like I said yesterday, people who are obsessed with wishing failure on others are sad folks who themselves are failures. The world would be a better place without these negative cretins.


and the world would be a much better place without pollyanna's like you who would follow mike north right off a fuckin cliff
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:47 pm ]
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Deacon Blues wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought.


To be fair to Pappy, there is a whole division of the CSFMB that I picture in an office somewhere, huddled together in a conference room after their 9am Dontfademe.com Impacts and Recap Meeting - diligiently reviewing police records, mug shots, and broadcasting news sites trying to dig up dirt on Pappy and we never saw anything about DH here.


u r a funny fuck :lol: cmon please use my quote as ur signature again dr. dickbag


I do like Dr. Dickbag.

I'll consider it.
Author:  RodeoVann [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:47 pm ]
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Quote:
We should all be that "Dumb" or "Lucky" to get 1.4 mill for 3 or 4 years.


I dont care how much he makes or has and my posts have never been about that, my point is simple, if he is serious about getting this back of track, hire true professionals, not wifes, buddies and finace money from a dark alley loanshark.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:51 pm ]
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RodeoVann wrote:
Quote:
We should all be that "Dumb" or "Lucky" to get 1.4 mill for 3 or 4 years.


I dont care how much he makes or has and my posts have never been about that, my point is simple, if he is serious about getting this back of track, hire true professionals, not wifes, buddies and finace money from a dark alley loanshark.


I would love to work with my wife. I can't get enough of......ok,fuck it she just walked by as I was typing.
Author:  Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:57 pm ]
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JohnKirk wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
i bet that 750k looks pretty good now. pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought. whatever is next venture is, it will be out of his pocket, which is to bad.


Listen...there were thousands of savy investers who were duped by Bernie Madoff & many other financial investers.
Hernandez will go to jail, and North will be in the clear.
I would bet my left nut that North ends up with CSW and gets more investors.


May we call you Virgil Livers?
Maybe North is on minute 14 1/2 of his 15 minutes of fame?
Author:  walkrman5 [ Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:29 pm ]
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Halfpint wrote:
JohnKirk wrote:
RodeoVann wrote:
i bet that 750k looks pretty good now. pappy isnt to blame, but come on, he had to know about dh past, if he didnt, then he is dumber then i thought. whatever is next venture is, it will be out of his pocket, which is to bad.


Listen...there were thousands of savy investers who were duped by Bernie Madoff & many other financial investers.
Hernandez will go to jail, and North will be in the clear.
I would bet my left nut that North ends up with CSW and gets more investors.



Kirk, Ike, why not call Mike and start the ball rolling. You 2 and a few others seem to have confidence in Mike and his ideas, so why not write the check today for the new webio????

I await your responses?

Kirk, especially you thinking North is getting more investors. You must be smoking whatever Ike is. Not that I ever had the chance to put money in and I wouldn't of anyways because I dont hink it will make money, but if it did make money like North and H said, no ponzi would be needed???????


Some people just cant see the forest through the trees. Hell, even Drew Peterson was able to dupe / find another fiance / victim.
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