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How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
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Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:47 pm ]
Post subject:  How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
This seems like a good question that none of our media asked when they had the chance.

Hell, Jesse was bragging about making double his Score salary. Bebe and Pappy were above him in this operation. What did Mrs. COO do on a day to day basis? It's come out that she did nothing. Pappy did nothing either. Pappy said that Hernandez took over day-to-day operations after the staff was hired.

Pappy and Bebe never thought it was curious that they were being paid for doing nothing? Did any of Bebe's or Pappy's checks bounce? If not, why?

Well, our media didn't ask but the FBI will. The FBI will ask all of the right questions. It's not the "kiss ass" dumb Chicago media. North won't be able to shout them down. He won't be able to use his stupid logic on them. I guarentee you, once the FBI is done questioning Pappy he'll be crying.
Author:  shakes [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
As much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI doesn't give a shit about North or anyone at Webio. As long as North didn't personally accept any money and hand that money over to DH I think the FBI will just look at him and his wife as victims. From the sound of things, Webio was a very small drop in the bucket in DH's scam. People that worked at the medical supply company will probably have a lot more explaining to do since they were around DH for a longer period of time. I wonder if he even actually sold any medical supplies?

The guy stole $11 million and from the sound of things spent less than $500,000 on webio.
Author:  Score is doomed [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
I think you are wrong on that Shakes. North was the front man for Next Step.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
I don't think North should get too much credit for paying the webio guys one weeks pay. He was paying them with dirty money he got from Hernandez.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Bebe never question that she was named COO of a radio station without any experience. COO of a company? A job it takes some people 20 or 30 years to get. Of course not. She was Mike's wife. That's all you have to put on the resume. Any company would have hired her for that position. She just never applied before I guess.
Author:  Pappy's Crappy [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
If the actual figure the Norths drew in "salary" from this ill-fated venture was revealed, I think a lot of people would be shocked and revolted. That's just my gut feeling--I have no evidence. Like others are pointing out, second-tier guys are doubling and tripling their salaries, Hernandez is trying to win everybody over by spending freely--I'm sure Mike and BeBe were handsomely compensated.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
The FBI might think that these positions are fronts to take bad money. They'll certainly explore that angle. At least the on air talent and producers did something. They actually did radio shows.
Author:  Pappy's Crappy [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Beardown wrote:
The FBI might think that these positions are fronts to take bad money. They'll certainly explore that angle. At least the on air talent and producers did something. They actually did radio shows.


BeBe's position a front? Oh, come on, doesn't she have an MBA from Harvard as well as decades of experience in running broadcast operations?

I mean, seriously, forget even Hernandez's criminal record and bankruptcies, isn't the mere fact that BEBE FUCKIN' NORTH was made COO enough of a red flag to scare people away? Are you kidding me? The more I think about this story, the less sympathy I have for the dupees. (Is that a word--dupees?)

(Although, I hear BeBe does a mean Google search.)
Author:  bigfan [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
shakes wrote:
As much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI doesn't give a shit about North or anyone at Webio. As long as North didn't personally accept any money and hand that money over to DH I think the FBI will just look at him and his wife as victims. From the sound of things, Webio was a very small drop in the bucket in DH's scam. People that worked at the medical supply company will probably have a lot more explaining to do since they were around DH for a longer period of time. I wonder if he even actually sold any medical supplies?

The guy stole $11 million and from the sound of things spent less than $500,000 on webio.


and how much on Monsters in the Morning, White Sox Ads? TV Ads? Bus Boards?
Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
If Mike and Bebe profited a lot from this, you'd better believe they're in trouble.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
"Follow the money"

That's how you find out everything. The FBI will.
Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
This is the one aspect I love. North and Bebe are going to flip to save themselves. And forever they will be rats.
Author:  donspiracy [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Pappy's Crappy wrote:
If the actual figure the Norths drew in "salary" from this ill-fated venture was revealed, I think a lot of people would be shocked and revolted. That's just my gut feeling--I have no evidence. Like others are pointing out, second-tier guys are doubling and tripling their salaries, Hernandez is trying to win everybody over by spending freely--I'm sure Mike and BeBe were handsomely compensated.


Affliction t-shirts are not cheap. That's what the kids tell me.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Jalapenos and More wrote:
This is the one aspect I love. North and Bebe are going to flip to save themselves. And forever they will be rats.


I don't think the FBI needs Mike and Bebe to flip. They have everything on Hernandez. That's an open and shut case. The North's need to worry if anybody will flip on them.
Author:  shakes [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Believe me, I hope you guys are right. There's nothing I'd enjoy more than watching Mr. and Mrs. North spend their retirement years in Stateville. :lol:
Author:  shakes [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
bigfan wrote:
shakes wrote:
As much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI doesn't give a shit about North or anyone at Webio. As long as North didn't personally accept any money and hand that money over to DH I think the FBI will just look at him and his wife as victims. From the sound of things, Webio was a very small drop in the bucket in DH's scam. People that worked at the medical supply company will probably have a lot more explaining to do since they were around DH for a longer period of time. I wonder if he even actually sold any medical supplies?

The guy stole $11 million and from the sound of things spent less than $500,000 on webio.


and how much on Monsters in the Morning, White Sox Ads? TV Ads? Bus Boards?



I thought it was $250,000 on all the ads? Didn't that number come out? I was just guessing another $250,000 on top of that.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
I have said before, I am going to wait until more facts come out to pass judgment on the Norths.
Well, early returns say, they are definitely dumbasses, just not necessarily criminal dumbasses.

But, my advice to the Mike would be to shut his damn yap and let the bureaus run their course. One way or another, your time will come.
Author:  Beardown [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Mr. Reason wrote:
I have said before, I am going to wait until more facts come out to pass judgment on the Norths.
Well, early returns say, they are definitely dumbasses, just not necessarily criminal dumbasses.

But, my advice to the Mike would be to shut his damn yap and let the bureaus run their course. One way or another, your time will come.


Absolutely. I don't think the guy has hired a good lawyer. Look how much info he's given. He might have hung himself in several lies. If he has any smart friends they need to talk to him. I don't think he has any smart friends.
Author:  shakes [ Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Mr. Reason wrote:
I have said before, I am going to wait until more facts come out to pass judgment on the Norths.
Well, early returns say, they are definitely dumbasses, just not necessarily criminal dumbasses.

But, my advice to the Mike would be to shut his damn yap and let the bureaus run their course. One way or another, your time will come.



Shhhhhhh! That's terrible advice! Mike, don't listen to Mr. Reason, you keep talking, keep screaming your tale of woe at anyone who will listen, I'm loving every minute of it.
Author:  Supercup [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Last number I saw was at least 275K on advertising, not even counting the TV show, contracts, equipment, etc.

Had to have dropped at least a quick million of retiree's and cancer victims money into the big picture.

You would have to think if the lower runged talent was making double what they made at their other gigs, Nort had to have been close to 2 million a year of blood money he had no problem cashing.
Author:  C_Howitt_Fealz [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Was North:

a) Criminal
b) Unethical
c) Plain dumb
d) A bad manager
e) A bad businessman
f) All of the above
g) None of the above
Author:  Beardown [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Hell, Mac told us he was offered 200k. My God, what the hell were Mike and Bebe making? How much did they get?

North's comcast show was being broadcast on webio before the other guys were hired. So he was talent and Pappy and Bebe were management.
Author:  C_Howitt_Fealz [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
I'm sure North and Beatrice were a package deal (maybe $350?).
Author:  Supercup [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
C_Howitt_Fealz wrote:
I'm sure North and Beatrice were a package deal (maybe $350?).


That low?

If he was offered 750K, I cant see the moron valuing himself less than that.
Author:  Mr. Belvidere [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Heres my new take- What happens when Hernandez is caught and what does he say about North to the FBI? I know he'll probably lie or stretch the truth to make Mike look worse but think aboout it for a sec. Hernandez is a crook but he's also very smart. What if he set up the books somehow to show North had involvement. Either actual involvement or made to look like it to take some of the heat off himself? I'm sure before he flew the coop, Hernandez knew North was tearing him up in the media.

"Mike and I talked about this idea back in the 90's"

"this whole scheme was Norths idea. Here's the proof"

"Hows about a deal. I'll give you Trotter and the Norths. They are dirtier than I am"

North has to hope Hernandez is in Brazil or dead. Who knows what he has made up or not on the Norths? Something to think about.
Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Mr. Reason wrote:
I have said before, I am going to wait until more facts come out to pass judgment on the Norths.
Well, early returns say, they are definitely dumbasses, just not necessarily criminal dumbasses.

But, my advice to the Mike would be to shut his damn yap and let the bureaus run their course. One way or another, your time will come.


Maybe the sanest post on this entire situation.
Author:  Harry Seaward [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
good dolphin wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
I have said before, I am going to wait until more facts come out to pass judgment on the Norths.
Well, early returns say, they are definitely dumbasses, just not necessarily criminal dumbasses.

But, my advice to the Mike would be to shut his damn yap and let the bureaus run their course. One way or another, your time will come.


Maybe the sanest post on this entire situation.


Because of BOTH of their roles in the "webio", they ARE criminals because they chose to lie in bed with Hernandez REGARDLESS of whether they had knowledge of his past/current situation(s). Pleading "dumbass" or simply being naive will play some role in their ultimate culpability, but as has been discussed there IS a requirement to do your due diligence when you are going to PARTNER with someone -- especially when you're staking claim to the idea/organization/concept. The Norths may be guilty of being as stupid as they have claimed they are smart, but they are also guilty of partnering with a slimebag and they will have to assume some responsibility.
Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Webio was a sound creation
Webio took B-listers from the stations
They probably should've listened to Mr. Reason
Don't ask Dave any questions 'cause he thinks that it's treason
So search Google to be in the know
Before you start a webio
Author:  Curious Hair [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:54 am ]
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Very well played. Now do one for "I Don't Wanna Go To Chelsea."
Author:  newper [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How much was Hernandez paying the Norths?
Beardown wrote:
Bebe never question that she was named COO of a radio station without any experience. COO of a company? A job it takes some people 20 or 30 years to get. Of course not. She was Mike's wife. That's all you have to put on the resume. Any company would have hired her for that position. She just never applied before I guess.

Well if a waitress can become an executive producer overnight, it makes sense that a hot dog vendor's wife could become an executive of an internationally delivered sports talkshow.
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