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Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first
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Author:  Beardown [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

Ed Sherman wrote a column telling everybody he had the "webio" story first. We should let him know what we had first.

It was pathetic that he praised Chet in his article considering he's writing a book with him. Even if he did it "tongue in cheek" with his "Always in my book" comment. Few people know that he and Chet are writing a book. Nobody is gonna buy that garbage anyway. Equally pathetic saying North shouldn't be criticized for not doing a background check. I guess, with that comment, we know we won't get any good reporting from him on the webio/Hernandez situation.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/article.pl?page_id=2317&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3af5555513-c950-4657-a93a-80db16fdf4adPost%3a1ab836f8-d59a-447f-a3da-e227be8d8008&plckCommentSortOrder=TimeStampAscending&sid=sitelife.chicagobusiness.com

We should also let Sherman know that Pappy's Crappy was the one to break the archived Trib story with details about Hernandez's scum bag past.

Author:  Beardown [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

TeeLander wrote:
Any evidence of this? Would love to see it


Of what? Sherman's "We had it first" column?

Here.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/article.pl?page_id=2317&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3af5555513-c950-4657-a93a-80db16fdf4adPost%3aba0e5468-76cc-4b9a-ab87-3fdd428fad5f&sid=sitelife.chicagobusiness.com

Author:  Beardown [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

TeeLander wrote:
Any evidence of this? Would love to see it


Maybe you meant of Pappy's Crappy finding archived info on Hernadez before anybody in the media found it. Including the quick to pat himself on the back, Ed Sherman.

Here's that.
http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=130&t=33595&start=0

Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

See this thread about 4 days before the scandal broke, based on Sherman's "we're making a profit" interview. It raised a lot of suspicion from the "pantless cretins:" http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=130&t=33266

These posts are all from June 8-11. The story broke on the 12th:
Score is Doomed wrote:
Something doesn't add up with this, especially when he talks about 7 to 10,000 listeners. this guy is full of shit.... (Sherman's) a flack... Hernandez and North are lying if they say people are paying BIG money to advertise for 7000 listeners. Only a fool believes that, I guess I mean you johnkirk.
Tinner59 wrote:
Mr Hernandez Who Ya Crappin?
Tad Queasy wrote:
(Hernandez's claim about placing programming on a Chicago-area radio outlet) sounds suspiciously like North's claim that he had offers from 8 stations on the table when he got launched by WSCR...before he fulfilled his lifelong dream of having a sports betting website.
Darkside wrote:
Hernandez is an idiot. Claiming public profits means someone is expecting to see taxes paid. he should have shut the hell up about revenues.
Jalapenos and More wrote:
This article also reminds me that Sherman is little more than a PR flack. The "news" content of this article is greatly outweighed by Hernandez's pitch to advertisers.... If this were truly a news item, he'd have at least one more POV other than using the "many people..." trope, which is the epitome of hack reporting. There is very little difference between this piece and a press release.... Using once source, and creating a vague opposing POV based on little more than conventional wisdom, is not journalism. It's advertising. It's a published infomercial.... An important question—did Hernandez sink has own money into this, his company's, or outside investors? I give North a lot of credit if he didn't put a single dollar into this venture.... If Hernandez is smart, he got the capital from investors and incorporated the webio as an LLC, S corp, etc. That way the webio can shut down and not pay back its creditors. And Hernandez's personal assets are safe. North et. al. pocket whatever they've been paid to date.
Supercup wrote:
These numbers dont add up. This is fail..... uber fail.... I am calling bullshit on this, I run a site, know the expenses, get more traffic than CSW, and I am nowhere near the kind of numbers this idiot is falsely claiming, WITH better advertising revenue. Who does this twat think hes fooling?.... North going to radio is saying the webio is a failure, and no amount of lying will change that.
Bigfan wrote:
Nobody dumps that kind of money into this venture to get on WJYD 1120 AM and if National syndication was really part of the plan, then Chicago Sports Webio might need to change its name?.... Over the years leasing to business after business, I can tell you if the business plan is good, if they are well capitalized and if they are making money and I have yet to see the one who opened the doors in a down economic environment and starting turning a profit in less than 6 months.


and from the other side:
JohnKirk wrote:
Didn't I tell you non-believers that there was a bigger strategic plan for CSW that included simulcasting on AM?...This is why WSCR made a huge mistake when they let North go. I cant wait to have another sports radio station on AM820. And when I compare the lineups, I will listen to more CSW than WSCR.... The CSW plan from day one was to eventually broadcast on an AM radio station. How the hell do you think North was able to hire all the guys that he hired?

Author:  shakes [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

nice post jalepenos, its pretty obvious Sherman only hopped on this story after it became clear that he had no choice whereas the posters here were asking questions long before that point.

And I love the johnkirk post, those are always funny to read. :lol:

Author:  Score is doomed [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

Well done Jalapeno!

Author:  conns7901 [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

John kirk :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  My Coach Vinny [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

Score is doomed wrote:
Well done Jalapeno!


More peppers! More bite!

Author:  Pappy's Crappy [ Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

Beardown wrote:
We should also let Sherman know that Pappy's Crappy was the one to break the archived Trib story with details about Hernandez's scum bag past.


In all fairness, I'm not claiming to have "broken" anything.

The Trib story was out there since 1998 and that crime and the three later bankruptcies were mentioned in the SEC suit.

What I DID do was show how ridiculously easy it was to find that stuff out independently with simple Internet searches, a few bucks, and half a brain (pants not necessary).

Author:  Jalapenos and More [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

I guess the Sun-Times can't afford a Lexis Nexis account, or the Trib can't search its own archives.

Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

this is why we have 27 year old non-partnered lawyers being paid $140k a year.

Author:  Spiral Stairs [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

doug - evergreen park wrote:
this is why we have 27 year old non-partnered lawyers being paid $140k a year.


post of the year

Author:  Mr. Reason [ Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ed Sherman is a shill: We had it first

Sherman also moonlights as the comedy police, in addition to being a shill. His suckage knows no bounds.
He is also one weird looking dude, to boot.

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