Here is LARZ's take. he is the gent who runs http://chicagolandradioandmedia.com/



Anybody can sue anybody for any reason. To win the suit, the plantiff will have to prove to a Judge that the people named in the lawsuit actually directly harmed them. ChicagoSportsWebio.com and the employees within had nothing to do with the Ponzi scheme. The defrauding was going on long before Webio even existed. To claim that Dan Jiggetts had a direct correlation with with somebody investing their money with Hernandez for a non-Webio investment is ludicrous.

Often when angry people sue, they go with the "shotgun blast" suit and name as many people as they can. It will be easy for the Webio people to show that they never met with the investors in Hernandez's many schemes prior to their investing, especially since the investing -- once again -- had nothing to do with Webio and most of which was done well before Webio started. The burden of proof will fall upon the plantiff. Once the Plantiff says something along the lines of "Well, these people should have known better and warned us," the Judge will laugh and excuse those named in the suit that have no direct relation to the wronged party.

Hernandez's wife cannot be sued in this manner. (She can be sued later if/when her hubby is convicted, to retrieve some of David's illegally gained funds.) North, Jiggets, and Trotter should be quite safe. Bebe North should be safe unless it can be proven she was in on meetings with investors, which is highly unlikely. Anne Williamson is the only one who should be worried, other than David Hernandez himself.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

How does Larz report all of this like "fact". Like he knows. By the way Larz, you can still be found guilty even if you really didn't know it was a scam. As officers of webio they have that responsibility.

He doesn't know that they are "safe"? Christ, somebody once won a lawsuit cuz the coffee was too hot.

This is Larz. Why does he act like a legal expert?

Larz sucks.

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But he is right on the money here.

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No he's not. Being COO has certain responsibilities, regardless of how clueless the COO is.

He was the COO of Webio, not Next Step which was the front for the Ponzi scheme.

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Wrong!
He's obviously never heard of the fact that in regards to fraudulent investments like this that money can be taken from people in order to distribute to the victims.

This business was paying out salaries well above the going market rate as established by a more successful and stable similar company.

Any payment made by chicagosportswebio.com could be taken back by the feds just like any return on an investment could be seized back even if the investor had no idea that it was fraudulently gained. This is why it was dumb for anyone in the media to be talking about how much money they were making.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/29/receiver-in-ponzi-trial-plays-hardball/

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

This is how Ken Lay got convicted in the Enron debacle. He claimed he didn't know—I doubt that he didn't—but he was held responsible for what Skilling and Fastow et. al. were allowed to do under his leadership, with or without his blessing. Fair or not, in this case, officers of a company can be considered criminally unaware.

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Is it know that any of North's money get stolen? Did he front a single dollar for this?

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It seems JK is nearing criminal unawareness.

Bebe was the COO not mike. And she has liability here, your North fandom not withstanding.


Oh and by the way...david hernandez is the lovechild of david navarro and john lovitz

Larz says: "To win the suit, the plantiff will have to prove to a Judge that the people named in the lawsuit actually directly harmed them."

If you read the lawyer's comments and the suit itself, I think you will clearly see the basis for their claim that North "actually directly harmed them." Whether any of that has legal merit, greater minds than I will have to decide.

what, david navarro? which tatoo and hoop earring put it over the top for you?

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It's not the tats and earrings. Pics with April remind RPB of Electra.

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This guy Larz is nothing more than some guy working at my local kinkos. His opinion is about as warranted as Beardown or Pappys' Crappy, not that they are wrong, but because he has a web site now he knows the law?
Remember this guy Larz was linked to Norths website and North used him to tell his side of the story. This is like asking Hawk if the last Buerhle pitch was a strike or a ball.

North is in some trouble here and so is his relationship with Jiggets. I would imagine that Jiggets legal team has been in contact with the Samps attorney and a deal is being worked right now for a minimal fee and answers to a long list of questions. He will then be released.

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Not that I know the law, but I know he is wrong.

In ponzi schemes, you do not have to have "directly harmed them" in order to be forced to pay restitution. There are many examples of people who had no involvement in perpetuating the fraud being forced to repay money.

They may not have to pay any back but I doubt any lawyer would say that they are going to have it "easy".

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This post gives a good example and sums it up nicely.

No matter how naive Bebe was...she is liable.

Jiggs is obviously the mastermind behind the whole thing.

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I think it breaks down to Jiggs wanting to get his other daughter on TV. She was doing those NEXTSTEP commercials.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I have no idea if North will suffer any legal consequences or have to return money or anything like that--I'm simply not qualified to comment on how the law works on matters like this--but I won't back down from my statement of many months ago: North knew way more about Hernandez than he'll ever admit. He just simply couldn't resist when DH showed up (either on his own or at North's invitation; I'm still not clear on that) to fund his Webio dream, no matter how cloudy his past was.

Knew the guy 17 years ago, did Score events with him, Jiggs knew him too, had him at Pappyland, the story of his previous crime and conviction and sentencing was reported on more than once in both Chicago papers, Shaer knew all about it, Huebner has hinted that he and his family knew "something," the guy's pouring hundreds of thousands into Mike's dream in the way of salaries, advertising, first-class everything, making BeBe COO, on virtually no revenue. For all the fun I've made of Mike North, not even he could have had all this unfold around him and be as oblivious to Hernandez's scheming as he says. Mike's getting close to 60 years old, owned a business, made deals with radio, TV, and book people in his life, and he thought his fairy godmother with a magic wand just dropped out of the sky in the person of this guy he "used to know" who owned some half-ass nurses' employment agency and was ready to just turn on the money spigot in a totally legal and upfront fashion? Sorry, no way I will ever believe that.

Like I said, to us laymen, the law sometimes seems to work in strange and mysterious ways, but no matter how this suit is eventually resolved LEGALLY, I don't think I'll ever change my opinion on what I said above.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Larz is a North apologist plain and simple. The Norths must have bought him dinner a time or two.

If Larz had any credibility, he'd look into the North lie about the 200 charities he's invoved with. It may not be illegal to lie about the charities you are a part of but it REALLY SHOWS what kkind of scumbag you really are. Any one that defends someone capable of lies about charitiy should lose everything and die a slow painful death by needle nose pliers.

Step up Larz. You are media giant! Make a name for yourself pussy!

Guys like North and Coppock obviously play the world for suckers and thought they had found one.
A guy like Jiggetts, to whom he has stated his good name means everything, is one damned fool because he knows North for close to 20 years and sure as shit knows North is clueless and leads the life of a riverboat gambler.
The guys that went along for the Webio ride should have resumes out.....and OUT OF TOWN.
If a guy like Ofman can't get an update gig here, he can always join Pat Benkowski and Duane Dow in the "Who were they" department and buy some cable time to discuss billiards and sell ad time to Moy Lee Chinese Restaurant, Jay's Beef Stand, Parse's Hot Dogs, Reliable Auto Repair and the like.

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Larz and Ed Sherman protect and promote their own.

Bob Feder used to kiss North's ass.

NOTHING critical of North is coming from these people unless he is somehow criminally responsible.

The fucking media in this Country creates VICTIMS.....and North is one of them....SO NORTH IS A VICTIM UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

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I notice Ed Sherman is now "taking off" this week. He was due back today, but now he "needs a break".

Seems very strange to me.

Mr. Sherman 2 U! Because the word "Mr." adds so much to every Sherman column!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Hi Boys & Girls! (Well... Mostly girls. You know who you are.)

You guys never stop making me laugh -- sometimes on purpose, often times without even trying. I think it is hilarious that the majority of posts on here concerning North can be broken down two ways:
1. Horribly bashing North, anybody close to North or anything North has touched.
2. Bashing anybody who has dared to not bash North. Not to mention, coming up with conspiracy theories about how North is controlling that person.

There have been more times that I can count that I have said unflattering things about Mike North's show, especially in his last year or so on WSCR, where the show totally derailed from it's intended purpose. When I did that, the North haters applauded me and the North apologists were mad at me. I just callz 'em as I seez 'em. Perhaps I find it easier to see things without a bias to cloud my opinion. Those of you so filled with an unnatural hate for guy who simply talks about sports for a living may not be able or willing to do so.

As far as this lawsuit is concerned, unless there is positive proof that North, or anybody named in the suit other than Hernandez, caused these poor investors to lose their money, they will walk away from this lawsuit unharmed. It's pretty cut & dry.

Another thing I'm surprised none of you brought up... Legally, it has not yet been decided that Hernandez or anybody he knows even committed these crimes. Don't get me wrong: I think Hernandez is guilty as hell and I hope he spends the rest of days being a 400 pound inmate's ass loofah. I just think the persons who started this lawsuit should have waited for a conviction first. It would make their case a lot stronger than it is now, which is very weak.

Just so you know, I'm also on vacation this week. Ed Sherman and I are busy packing up Sarah Palin's belongings at the Alaskan Governor's Mansion and then we need to rush back to Chicago to clean out Dan Jiggetts' pool. It's a working vacation.

Personal note to spmack: Instead of telling people you don't know that they suck, wouldn't your time be better spent taking more photos of people pointing? Fo shizzle, spmizzle.

Larz, since you're obviously a legal expert I'm sure I don't need to remind you that evidence of a conviction is inadmissible in civil court. The only evidence related to the criminal case that would be admissible in civil court is a PLEA of guilty.

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I should have used the word conclusion instead of conviction. Most insiders agree that David Hernandez will eventually change his plea to "guilty" once his lawyer is able to hammer out as favorable of a plea bargain as he can, which he is currently working on.

A conclusion to the Hernandez case, where he is legally branded as the criminal behind this Ponzi scheme, would make the plaintiff's arguments stronger. Without that, it makes a lawsuit with weak spots throughout it, even weaker.

Looks as though Larz just spanked your asses, no one is responding?? There are some great posters on this board and there are some with very low IQ's.

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