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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports history |
(useless note: turns out my thread title meets the maximum number of characters allowed) Long story short, Matty suggests that title may well go to George Steinbrenner. Seems perfectly plausible to me ... the only thing I thought to counter that was that GSH (kinda sorta basically) 'created' the NFL. From people with real knowledge, are there any other candidates? David Stern maybe? John Madden? Whitney Houston? |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Abner Doubleday, the limey douchebag who thought kicking a skull around a field for 90 minutes might be fun, Nero |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:19 am ] |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Vin Scully didn't make it in till the year 2008? I think his legendary status was solidified well before then. |
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| Author: | Zizou [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Just ask him, he'll tell you. 
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Douchebag wrote: Vin Scully didn't make it in till the year 2008? I think his legendary status was solidified well before then. The California Hall of Fame Veterans Committee is hard to please |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
maybe david stern or george halas. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:10 am ] |
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John Wooden The guys that invented Gatorade Charley Finley |
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| Author: | didea [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:14 am ] |
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Branch Rickey |
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| Author: | Harry Seaward [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:53 am ] |
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David Anderson (bigger than Michael Jordan). |
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| Author: | Terry's Guy [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Don Tiny wrote: (useless note: turns out my thread title meets the maximum number of characters allowed) Long story short, Matty suggests that title may well go to George Steinbrenner. Seems perfectly plausible to me ... the only thing I thought to counter that was that GSH (kinda sorta basically) 'created' the NFL. From people with real knowledge, are there any other candidates? David Stern maybe? John Madden? Whitney Houston? Halas was an athlete. He played for the New York Yankees, Decatur Staleys, & Chicago Bears. Things I did not know about George Steinbrenner: He had an Engineering degree from MIT. He ran hurdles in track & field at MIT. He played Piano. He was a RB at Williams College. He was in the Air Force. He produced a broadway play. He was an assistant Football coach for Northwestern, Purdue, & Ohio State. This guy led an active life full of achievement. |
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| Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Halas was a player though, wasn't he? I'd go with David Stern's mustache. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:20 am ] |
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Terry's Guy wrote: He ran hurdles in track & field at MIT. I wouldn't really call that an athletic achievement. Ron Santo could probably run hurdles at MIT. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Halas didn't do anything important as an athlete ... his impact was outside of the direct competition realm. I'm sticking with that answer; Steinbrenner owned a team ... Halas made a league. |
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| Author: | newper [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Dr. Frank Jobe |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:04 pm ] |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:11 pm ] |
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Keyser Soze wrote: You're a bad person .... 
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:21 pm ] |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:08 pm ] |
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How was he an athelete at MIT and at Williams? |
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| Author: | spanky [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:11 pm ] |
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Phil Knight. End of thread. |
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| Author: | beni hanna [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:07 pm ] |
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George also was first owner of the Bull wasn't he? I mention that because a multi sport guy esp with his track record in Baseball is greater than a single sport guy IMO. I would consider Al Davis if his reach was more than football. Halas for a single owner is a great choice. Must also give a nod to Rozelle. NFL wouldn't be what it is without him. |
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| Author: | sabu [ Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Branch Rickey Marvin Miller Pete Rozelle there probably are about 10 more before George even shows his face |
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| Author: | Wanderer [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
The list is probably several hundred before the late Yankees owner: 1) The NFL founder/owners such as George Halas and George Preston Marshall who understood that revenue was more than ticket sales 2) Civil rights pioneers like Branch Rickey and Vince McMahon Sr. who integrated their business long before the passage of civil rights legislation 3) Later NFL owners such as Lamar Hunt and Clint Murchison who bought marketing and computers to sports 4) Ted Turner who realized the importance of cable tv and sports 5) Broadcast pioneers who created television and instant replay 6) Walter O'Malley, Charley Finley, Bill Veeck who took baseball into the 20th century after WW2 7) NCAA basketball directors like Jim Kehoe and Jim Weaver who were pioneers selling broadcast rights to basketball games 8 ) Producers like Roone Arledge and Chet Forte 9) Even real estate developers like Tom Cousins who built modern arenas for sports and other entertainment |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
Don Tiny wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: You're a bad person .... Ronnie Woo Woo |
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| Author: | Rod [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Matty's posit: most important non-athelete in sports his |
How about James Naismith? He created the vehicle for modern day slavery. |
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