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Author: | Score is doomed [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
" Ed Sherman's Blog North starting over again; says no regrets leaving WSCR North starting over again; says no regrets leaving WSCR Posted by Ed S. at 8/30/2010 2:25 AM CDT on Chicago Business Stop us if you've heard this one before: Mike North is about to begin a new job. I've been doing the sports business blog for Crain's for just under two years, and Mr. North's ever-changing career has been a recurring theme. Here's the rundown for those keeping score (not to be confused with "The Score"): After leaving WSCR-AM/670 in 2008, Mr. North did an Internet show for Rich Melman's Wildfire restaurant; attempted a morning show called "Monsters in the Morning" on Comcast SportsNet, and then launched another morning show called "Monsters and Money" on WBBM-TV/Channel 2. And there also was the ill-fated Webio venture that he helped found. It ended in disaster when it was discovered owner David Hernandez funded it via a Ponzi scheme. Now the latest entry in this saga has Mr. North returning to radio at Fox Sports Radio. His hiring was announced shortly after Channel 2 canceled the "Monsters and Money" show. The exact nature of the Fox job still is to be determined, and there's speculation his role could be limited. Mr. North could have avoided the commotion if he had remained at WSCR. He had an offer to continue as host of his morning show for a reported $700,000 per year. However, the deal was half the $1.5 million he pulled in from his previous contract. Mr. North didn't feel he deserved such a big pay cut and shut the door on WSCR. Looking back, Mr. North not only passed on big money, he also walked away from a morning audience that made him a significant voice of sports in this town. The obvious question: Any regrets, Mr. North? "No regrets," he said. "No. The only thing I would like to revisit is that they didn't have the (Portable People Meters) when I was there." Mr. North is referring to a new radio rating system that more accurately documents listening habits. The data show more people listen to sports talk radio than previously reported under the old system. "For 16 years, (Dan Jiggetts and I) thought the ratings were inaccurate. We were 'The Flinstones.' People were driving those diaries with their feet. I would like to do a year's worth of shows with those people meters." But beyond that, Mr. North said he made the right move. Saying "he has plenty in the bank," he also insists it wasn't just about the money. Mr. North said he wanted to try new things. "I had a great run," he said. "I wanted some new challenges. Sometimes you have to take some risks. If I had stayed at WSCR, I never would have tried those things." He is disappointed his latest endeavor didn't have a better ending. "Monsters and Money" was a hybrid of sports, business and general talk. The show, though, struggled in the ratings and was canceled after a short run. "Absolutely, I'm disappointed," Mr. North said. "People were telling me the show was an acquired taste. You can't build anything in six months. But I understand why they did it. New York (CBS corporate headquarters) wanted to go back to a more traditional newscast. (Channel 2 President Bruno Cohen) was disappointed. We all were." It didn't take long for Mr. North to land another job. Longtime Chicago radio executive Jeff Schwartz, a close associate and friend of Mr. North's, now is working as a consultant for Fox Sports Radio. He moved quickly to hire Mr. North. "I said, 'Let's get him in the stable and we'll see what he wants to do,' " Mr. Schwartz said. Fox Sports Radio has more than 300 national affiliates, but it doesn't have a station in Chicago. The only way you'll hear Mr. North here is if you subscribe to XM-Sirius satellite radio. Exactly how much Mr. North will be on the air remains to be seen. Mr. Schwartz said, "He will do something more than menial on this network." However, Mr. North doesn't sound as if he is expecting a full workload at Fox. He repeatedly said he still remains "contractually bound to CBS," where he will be paid for another one-and-a-half years. "I have to be mindful of CBS and respect the contract," Mr. North said, even though he doesn't expect to do any more work for Channel. 2. When I pushed further, telling him it sounds like he's been told Fox doesn't have much for him, he said, "I've had a lot of great things happen in the last 17-18 years. I might decide I want to take a long break. I'm being paid not to play." I told Mr. North I had a hard time seeing him slow down. He quickly responded by reminding me of the newspaper deal he has with the Sun-Times. He and Mr. Jiggetts write point-counterpoint columns. Mr. North buys the page from the paper and then sells the ads himself. "It's the wave of the future," he said. Mr. North said he also is working on a book deal, and, get this, a possible movie loosely based on his life. "I have a lot of balls in the air," he said. Mr. North now is 57. He joked, "Hopefully I've restored a few of those brain cells (he killed along the way)." He insists he is a long way from being finished. The next challenge awaits. "It's like that old Elton John song: 'I'm still standing,' " Mr. North said. " ----------------------- Movie? WTF? |
Author: | A7X [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
He never fails to find a way to spin his shitty ratings. This clown is delusional. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
When I do jumping jacks,my balls are in the air,too. FACT: If I walked away from 700,000,I'd have my balls in the air because my wife would have pinned them to the wall. |
Author: | Gloopan Kuratz [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Quote: People were telling me the show was an acquired taste LOL |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
I remember when the old Sportswriters show first went on the air. It had its moments, but for the most part it was just a bunch of crusty old newspaper douchebags talking over each other. Yeah, Gleason was a Sox fan, but those guys were really most interested in what food was on the pressbox spread. When the Score first started up I was hopeful that there would be guys who liked going to the games just like me on the air. And I think that's what management thought North was, but they got it all wrong. North was nothing like me. All his shit is wrong. He prefers going to Gibson's or hanging out at Tony's talking shit to actually seeing a game. I'd say the members of this forum are a pretty good cross-section of Chicago sports fans and no one here is close to as dumb as North. Say what you will about Murph, but he's a truly passionate Cub fan who often pays for his own ticket. These other guys go to the games, often for free, sit in the best seats, get special treatment, and leave early to go drinking or get back to Highland before their Lexuses turn into pumpkins. And then they complain that more fans should go to Sox games. They're so far removed from the real fan they have no fucking idea. |
Author: | johnnyfontane [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
jimmypasta wrote: When I do jumping jacks,my balls are in the air,too. FACT: If I walked away from 700,000,I'd have my balls in the air because my wife would have pinned them to the wall. Bebe was probably the one telling him that he would make more from Webio because it's the sports talk forum of the future. |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Score is doomed wrote: "He and Mr. Jiggetts write point-counterpoint columns. Mr. North buys the page from the paper and then sells the ads himself. "It's the wave of the future," he said. Newspapers are like a jet. |
Author: | RodeoVann [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Its the same column from all the other failures, they are just changing the name of the shows. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
A7X wrote: He never fails to find a way to spin his shitty ratings. This clown is delusional. The 3 most important things to insuring a long & prosperous career are: 1. Love what you do. 2. Work your ass off, especially while you are young & people will notice you & you will create your own breaks. 3. Network in your industry & market & promote yourself. Doing this successfully will insure that you are never out of work. Mike North is a master at #3. |
Author: | Douchebag [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Scorehead wrote: A7X wrote: He never fails to find a way to spin his shitty ratings. This clown is delusional. The 3 most important things to insuring a long & prosperous career are: 1. Love what you do. 2. Work your ass off, especially while you are young & people will notice you & you will create your own breaks. 3. Network in your industry & market & promote yourself. Doing this successfully will insure that you are never out of work. Mike North is a master at #3. It's a shame that he really sucks at #2. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Douchebag wrote: Scorehead wrote: A7X wrote: He never fails to find a way to spin his shitty ratings. This clown is delusional. The 3 most important things to insuring a long & prosperous career are: 1. Love what you do. 2. Work your ass off, especially while you are young & people will notice you & you will create your own breaks. 3. Network in your industry & market & promote yourself. Doing this successfully will insure that you are never out of work. Mike North is a master at #3. It's a shame that he really sucks at #2. North worked his ass off in his younger days. He spent 18 hours a day at the Hot Dog stand, then bought his own air time on the weekends to talk sports. This guy is a high school dropout who at least made something of himself due to hard work & diligence. Many people just don't understand that the harder you work while young, the less work you have to do as you age. You build a legacy, & business opportunities, jobs, & business comes your way. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Scorehead wrote: North worked his ass off in his younger days. He spent 18 hours a day at the Hot Dog stand, then bought his own air time on the weekends to talk sports. This guy is a high school dropout who at least made something of himself due to hard work & diligence. Many people just don't understand that the harder you work while young, the less work you have to do as you age. You build a legacy, & business opportunities, jobs, & business comes your way. You mean like Justin Beiber? |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
I guess you never saw him "working hard" with his feet up on the desk in the office at Pottawatomie Park. |
Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:54 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Genuinely curious: anyone have a link to an article or can give an example of North taking any responsibility for any of his failings since June 2008? I really can't recall him admitting fault... ever. Would the old ratings system have been acceptable if North destroyed WMVP every ratings book? Would he have complained that his show was overrated—literally—and told his bosses to wait on a new contract until the numbers are more accurate, so he was not overcompensated? The Spaceball connection explains the Fox Sports Radio gig, which North likely will interpret as Fox News Radio. I know I'd be enthused if a potential employer described a position as "more than menial." |
Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
"Scorehead" North worked his ass off in his younger days. He spent 18 hours a day at the Hot Dog stand, then bought his own air time on the weekends to talk sports. This guy is a high school dropout who at least made something of himself due to hard work & diligence. Many people just don't understand that the harder you work while young, the less work you have to do as you age. You build a legacy, & business opportunities, jobs, & business comes your way. The American Dream...the path to emulate.....Drop out of High School....Slave at a hot dog stand...Become a radio host..... The guy basically won the lottery.....I highly doubt North's path to scuccess can be replicated. |
Author: | walkrman5 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
The article didn't mention the ultra successful DontFadeMe.com He was up so many units. North sucks. He is fucking dickwad blowhard lying conceited bastard. |
Author: | Aggravated Sox Fan Bob [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
walkrman5 wrote: The article didn't mention the ultra successful DontFadeMe.com He was up so many units. North sucks. He is fucking dickwad blowhard lying conceited bastard. North has to believe his own bullshit....no one else does. |
Author: | BD [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Sounds like he's going to be a backup weekend host or maybe a Chicago NFL voice for them to put on the air once in a while. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote: "Scorehead" North worked his ass off in his younger days. He spent 18 hours a day at the Hot Dog stand, then bought his own air time on the weekends to talk sports. This guy is a high school dropout who at least made something of himself due to hard work & diligence. Many people just don't understand that the harder you work while young, the less work you have to do as you age. You build a legacy, & business opportunities, jobs, & business comes your way. The American Dream...the path to emulate.....Drop out of High School....Slave at a hot dog stand...Become a radio host..... The guy basically won the lottery.....I highly doubt North's path to success can be replicated. That's my point exactly. Not many uneducated high school drop outs have the intestinal fortitude to pull themselves up by the bootstraps & make something of themselves. Again, I'm not a fan of North these days, but I respect him for achieving the success that he did. Most street kids who drop out of High School don't end up living the lifestyle that North has enjoyed. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote: walkrman5 wrote: The article didn't mention the ultra successful DontFadeMe.com He was up so many units. North sucks. He is fucking dickwad blowhard lying conceited bastard. North has to believe his own bullshit....no one else does. If other people didn't believe him he wouldn't get employment offers. You need to think these things through Bob before you post your thoughts. |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
walkrman5 wrote: The article didn't mention the ultra successful DontFadeMe.com He was up so many units. North sucks. He is fucking dickwad blowhard lying conceited bastard. Mike North wrote: Hey! Ya know what? Don't talk dat way ta me, pal. I been highly succesful where I been from da army to da Park Districk to da hot dog stand to radio an TV. Da Patron keeps flowin' and I keep rollin'. Howze about dat? I even woulda had a atletick field named affer me if it wasn't for a buncha damn Chinamen complainin'. Awso, I got two beautiful lots on Murphy's Lake in Park Ridge. 'Sonly minutes away from Gibson's an Jilly'z an O'Hara Field if you're flyin ta Vegas an Tony's Deli an da Emeril Isle is right down da street. Dat's where I trow a few back now an den wit my good frenz Brian Doherty and Roger McAuliffe Jr.
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Author: | Score is doomed [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
Sounds like a part-time job to me. |
Author: | walkrman5 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
North is also spewing / spinning his shit in todays Suntimes page that HE PAYS to have published. |
Author: | Scorehead [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
walkrman5 wrote: North is also spewing / spinning his shit in todays Suntimes page that HE PAYS to have published. North buys the page from the Sun Times, then sells the ads on the page. He's making money in this arrangement. |
Author: | Jalapenos and More [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:44 pm ] |
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His own web site disavows any knowledge of him: http://www.northtonorth.com/blogs/NorthToNorth.php?query=Mike+North&amount=0&blogid=13 |
Author: | walkrman5 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:07 pm ] |
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Scorehead wrote: walkrman5 wrote: North is also spewing / spinning his shit in todays Suntimes page that HE PAYS to have published. North buys the page from the Sun Times, then sells the ads on the page. He's making money in this arrangement. I know what the set up is. Making money? Breaking even? It is still a paid advertisement that he pays for to try and stay relevent. |
Author: | Darkside [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:09 pm ] |
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walkrman5 wrote: Scorehead wrote: walkrman5 wrote: North is also spewing / spinning his shit in todays Suntimes page that HE PAYS to have published. North buys the page from the Sun Times, then sells the ads on the page. He's making money in this arrangement. I know what the set up is. Making money? Breaking even? It is still a paid advertisement that he pays for to try and stay relevent. If Mike was making any money, why wouldn't those two sponsors just buy space direct from the paper? And whatever it is he has to share it with Jiggs. he's GOTTA be giving him something for putting his credibility on the line in a "I'm Right, no I'm right" Article where the position North gets is that the Bears stink. |
Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:31 pm ] |
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Scorehead wrote: Aggravated Sox Fan Bob wrote: "Scorehead" North worked his ass off in his younger days. He spent 18 hours a day at the Hot Dog stand, then bought his own air time on the weekends to talk sports. This guy is a high school dropout who at least made something of himself due to hard work & diligence. Many people just don't understand that the harder you work while young, the less work you have to do as you age. You build a legacy, & business opportunities, jobs, & business comes your way. The American Dream...the path to emulate.....Drop out of High School....Slave at a hot dog stand...Become a radio host..... The guy basically won the lottery.....I highly doubt North's path to success can be replicated. That's my point exactly. Not many uneducated high school drop outs have the intestinal fortitude to pull themselves up by the bootstraps & make something of themselves. Again, I'm not a fan of North these days, but I respect him for achieving the success that he did. Most street kids who drop out of High School don't end up living the lifestyle that North has enjoyed. I echo Scorehead's thoughts. The guy did work hard. He got lucky, but he also had drive AND talent. |
Author: | johnnyfontane [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Ed Sherman's new column on North in Crain's |
The only fans that guy ever had were the meatballs among us. "Yeah dat Nort guy, he's from Bridgeport like me. He knows his shit bout sports and bettin'. Dats how he got all his money, ya know..he won it all at the track and bettin on da Bears. That's one smart guy, dat Nort." |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:50 pm ] |
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johnnyfontane wrote: The only fans that guy ever had were the meatballs among us. "Yeah dat Nort guy, he's from Bridgeport like me. He knows his shit bout sports and bettin'. Dats how he got all his money, ya know..he won it all at the track and bettin on da Bears. That's one smart guy, dat Nort." I sir,resemble that remark. I miss Mikey on radio. Always entertaining especially when he had his "crew" coming on the show:Fritzy,Knuckles. I now spend my time eating subs in Tony's Italian Deli on NW HWY in the front window,hoping for a sighting of my hero. |
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