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Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  How Would/Should EsPn be Punished?
I really don't know what can or will be done to espn for sitting on at least one known sex abuse case... I mean legally, if a pattern of negligence is shown, can disney sports be subjected to legal ramifications? How in the fuck would you punish espn?

EsPn has tried and tried and tried to keep everyone away f/ all the madness that goes on around bristol, but those who have @ least followed deadspin the last 5 years know the shitstorm keeps growing around the four letter network...
Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:33 pm ]
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... Yeah I got no fucking clue either people...
Author:  bigfan [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:44 pm ]
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Kick them out of the Big East!
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:45 pm ]
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Chris Berman should be publicly executed.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:47 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Chris Berman should be publicly executed.

True but what does that have to do with the ESPN scandal?
Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:47 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Chris Berman, Merril Hoge, Linda Cohn, and Tony Kornheiser should be publicly executed.

Fixed and +1
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:54 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Chris Berman should be publicly executed.

True but what does that have to do with the ESPN scandal?

Nothing

I was just saying


And Bi11s, we can't get greedy quite yet.
Author:  Jbi11s [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:05 pm ]
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I know I know. I just can't imagine how much shit they've kept quiet aside f/ the random child sex abuse case...
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:14 pm ]
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I don't know how a network as powerful, as well as holier than thou, such as ESPN can be really disciplined for dropping the ball on the Penn State football & the Syracuse basketball scandals that are as much hard news as they are sports.

I remember that Dan Rather as well as one of his old producers were fired by CBS News when the bogus story of President George W. Bush and his military record were reported on the long since defunct "60 Minutes II" a few years ago. I've got to think something similar should happen with ESPN, but I doubt anything will.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:31 pm ]
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Did anyone think ESPN's journalism had any itegrity before this? Why should this story change anything?
Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:37 pm ]
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Douchebag wrote:
Did anyone think ESPN's journalism had any itegrity before this? Why should this story change anything?

Judging by the meatballs who post in the forums and comments section of their site, im gonna have to say there are still those who would be surprised...
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:25 pm ]
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ESPN: Guilty of Child Abuse by Omission?
Richard Stellar 12/01/2011 6:21 PM

If you're not Catholic, it's easy to distance yourself from the decades of abuse that Catholic priests and those figures of authority in the Catholic Church have heaped upon their young parishioners. The disgust that we all feel as humans is much more tolerable when we can disassociate ourselves as a group from those sick priests.

Hell, I'm not a Catholic. That doesn't happen in my religion.

However, when the innocence of youth is murdered by those in a secular world, then there's no alternative and no cultural or intellectual divide. We all must act and react instantly.

Unfortunately, ESPN chose the path of those whose athletic programs and “brand” identity trump the welfare of our children.

Pedophiles and pederasts are a cagey group. They often leverage a position that is part parent and part superhero to exercise a dynastic prerogative that preys on the will of those in their charge. It's murder in the first degree, as these deviants lie in wait and conspire to gain their sick gratification at the cost of the life of their victim. There is a more blatant way to state this, but I'll refrain from lowering myself to a street standard in this one case.

As we all seethe and question what went on in full view and knowledge of guys like Joe Paterno at Penn State, we may offer excuses for an old man's behavior. To me, there is no excuse. Had it been one of his kids that was being defiled by his assistant coach, I'm sure that today, the defiling would be at the hands of fellow inmates.

I guess though, if you talked to Paterno during the time of his awareness, he might have offered the opinion that it's not the duty of Penn State's athletic program to report child rape to police. After all, Penn State was pursuing a winning record and didn't want to tarnish their program.

ESPN might offer the same excuse. A very well-known lifestyle reporter shared a link to a website called Sports by Brooks that lays a foundation that should result in the incarceration of every ESPN executive and broadcaster that was aware of the latest alleged outbreak of terror at the hands of the associate head basketball coach of Syracuse. Hell, even Paterno notified the VP in charge of the Penn State campus police.

ESPN Senior Vice President & Director of News Vince Doria has issued this statement: ”From a professional standpoint, our role as a journalist is to seek out information and vet that information and when we’re satisfied with the credibility of that information to report it to the public. It’s what journalists do. It’s not necessarily the journalist’s role to go to the police with potential evidence that at the time we didn’t believe was strong enough to report ourselves.”

He is responding to an interview that ESPN conducted with Laurie Fine, wife of Bernie Fine, Syracuse's former head basketball coach for the men's team. In that interview, Laurie dropped a dime on her husband that should have resounded in the hallways of ESPN. Instead, her acknowledgement of her husband's sexual abuse of children that was recorded in 2003 resulted in ... nothing.

Fine's ravings totally blew the doors open on her husband's "issues.” ESPN could have been proactive and done what any parent would do to protect the integrity of not only their children but any child within their purview.

Children who are being courted by college sports programs put them in a position where gifts, praise and attention are lavished upon them. The coaches who give them the keys to vacant and well-furnished condos, access to perks and special treatment, and offer them adulation, set up a relationship that results in easy access to the trust of a child.

This is what they destroy: trust, innocence, and a child's belief in themselves as they grow into their sexuality. Destroying that trust is tantamount to murder in the 1st. For some reason, we feel that these people can be rehabilitated. I don't believe they can, and they must be eliminated from society.

ESPN is culpable in its omission of the facts as it knew them. Vince Doria's excuses should have a familiar ring as we wallow in the mire of professional and college sport's marginalization of their most important demographic: children. As we would spit on a person that walks by someone in need without offering any assistance, we also must shun and ostracize those who use children for their own sickness, without regard to the future of those children, and the lives that they snuff out.

Children are continually given the finger not only by the molesters but also by overpaid athletes whose disregard for their youngest and most impressionable fans are ruining professional basketball, baseball and football.

Paterno's obligation to report to the police can be debated for as long as you want. He screwed up. He ruined his legacy by not being proactive, and putting his sick assistant coach above those who he allegedly molested. There is no debate about ESPN's responsibility.

I'm not the only one calling for an investigation and criminal charges being levied against those at ESPN who are responsible. Please see Sports by Brooks website.

Have something close by to vomit into.
Author:  Mr. Belvidere [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:13 am ]
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Jbi11s wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Chris Berman, Merril Hoge, Linda Cohn, and Tony Kornheiser should be publicly executed.

Fixed and +1


I love me some Linda Cohn.
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Author:  Beebo [ Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:51 pm ]
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(Shakes head)

Sports reporting, by in large, isn't news. Its promotion of the sport. That's especially true of any "league", meaning there's money involved.

ESPN is not a news-gathering organization. Arguably, neither is the sports section of any newspaper, nor the sports anchor of any TV News dept. Once you get past the journalistic integrity issues (because, they aren't journalists) its a lot easier to see. The sports talkers never got mistaken for journalists, and its all opinions.

That being said, its an interesting angle, to accuse ESPN of culpability because they choose to bury stories. I want to see the results of that. Here, they chosen the high road, by pretending to be reporting news & being a respectable news organization, and they'll be taken down by that very pretense. When in reality: Chris Berman is a perfect exhibit "A" for what ESPN is: someone who promotes professional sports, and gives you scores.

(You guys know how I feel about newspaper sports reporting. I was thinking how to sort out their real news gathering operations from this stuff, and it occurs to me that sports reporting, Ann Landers, and the comics page are all in the same boat.)
Author:  chip egan [ Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:27 pm ]
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Beebo, I have to respectfully disagree with you on a point. I believe, like you, that the Chris Bermans, Linda Cohns, Steve Levys and Stuart Scotts are all news readers and, perhaps more importantly, personalities. This is what our news gathering organizations have become; they are more about the entertainment aspect than anything else.

That being said, ESPN does pride itself on being the world' leader in sports programming and information. Reporters have broken stories and their is a journalistic component to their network. As such, they have a journalistic responsibility to cover stories and report information that they have uncovered. I do believe, however, that since they are in bed with the NCAA, NFL, MLB and the NBA, certain things get swept under the rug as it could harm their business relationships. I use the example of when Ohio State played the University of Miami earlier this year in what some called the "convict" bowl. ESPN stayed well away from brining up the problems with the programs when promoting their coverage of the game. They have also not gone into much about the investigation into the BCS.

News organizations that tie themselves to entities such as the NCAA, NFL, etc. will tend to respect their business agreements with them and will lay off certain things. The reporters may want to report some things, but managing editors and higher company officials may strike them down. When I worked as a news director at a local radio station, I had a story brought to me by our general manager-not long after 9/11- about a suspicious person who purchased a beat-up van with cash from a local car dealer who happened to advertise on our station. The police got involved in the case, but I was told by my general manager to not use the name of the car dealer because they advertised with us. I explained that it is part of the story and that it needed to be mentioned. Fortunatley, the whole thing turned out to be nothing as no arrests were made.

Point is, management will protect its interests regardless of the news value. This has been a long standing practice even as far back as Edward R. Murrow. We have turned reporters and anchors into celebrities and news organization, especially ESPN, are fine with this. I am of the belief that people don't get into the business anymore because of their desire to cover the news. I believe they want the "celebrity" that goes with the job and the notoriety that goes with it.
Author:  The Gridiron Assassin [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:41 pm ]
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Mr. Belvidere wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Chris Berman, Merril Hoge, Linda Cohn, and Tony Kornheiser should be publicly executed.

Fixed and +1


I love me some Linda Cohn.
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She looks too educated when she wears glasses:

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