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Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  You gotta be from Chicago

Call me a homer, xenophobe, whatever, but to be a successful local sports-talker you need to have grown up here.

Chet
North
Danny
Boers
Mac
Mully/Hanley
Murph
Even Jurko

Please tell me how I'm wrong. :lol:

Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

Hatchetman wrote:
Call me a homer, xenophobe, whatever, but to be a successful local sports-talker you need to have grown up here.

Chet
North
Danny
Boers
Mac
Mully/Hanley
Murph
Even Jurko

Please tell me how I'm wrong. :lol:


You're wrong.

Golic
Mike Francesa

Author:  good dolphin [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

I disagree. The Score used to be a station where it was important to place the current in context with the past. If you have a few years of backround you are good to go these days.

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

How soon we forget the Sean Salisbury experience... :roll:

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

who's the biggest "non-local" in chicago sports history? national espn shit does not count.

waddle?
meatpants?

Author:  RFDC [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

meatpants is definitely the biggest

Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:38 pm ]
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Giangreco (kind of a sports talker - been here forever), NY.
Waddle - Ohio?
Jiggs - New York?

But in looking at this thread, it's dawned on me that I've never really considered Bernstein a Chicago guy. He's never really had any uniquely Chicago insights. He never has had any real insight into Chicago teams, no Chicagoland experience playing a sport except Basketball w/geezers, no tired 16" softball stories. All of his stories seem to revolve around CBA road stories, Nebraska football & Duke. Not that I've cared.

Oddly enough in my book, his kid is on the road to having more Chicago( :roll: ?) credibility than he has. FWIW

Author:  Psycory [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:40 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Please tell me how I'm wrong. :lol:

Image

Author:  spmack [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

Connor McKnight is from Milwaukee. Another reason why he shouldn't have won.


Yes, I know its been a few years now, but Chip Egan should have won.

Author:  Hatchetman [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:41 pm ]
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berns has got the foundation. he knows shit going back to 1980 or so. he was here for payton, lee elia, lived the Ditka years, went to old Comiskey, etc.

Author:  Regular Reader [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:46 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
berns has got the foundation. he knows shit going back to 1980 or so. he was here for payton, lee elia, lived the Ditka years, went to old Comiskey, etc.


I know all of that and agree with you. It's just that imo, as a "Chicago" sports guy he seems....inauthentic?

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:47 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Connor McKnight is from Milwaukee. Another reason why he shouldn't have won.


Yes, I know its been a few years now, but Chip Egan should have won.



Nope. Connor's the goods...

Author:  spmack [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:50 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
spmack wrote:
Connor McKnight is from Milwaukee. Another reason why he shouldn't have won.


Yes, I know its been a few years now, but Chip Egan should have won.



Nope. Connor's the goods...

Average at best in my opinion. That's why they went and got the Dazzler.

Author:  Krazy Ivan [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:52 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Average at best in my opinion. That's why they went and got the Dazzler.


The got the Dazzler because Connor has very little time for updated anymore. Too much show hostin' to worry about such things...

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:55 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
spmack wrote:
Average at best in my opinion. That's why they went and got the Dazzler.


The got the Dazzler because Connor has very little time for updated anymore. Too much show hostin' to worry about such things...

Loho joked today that if he won the lottery he might buy the Score and fire his ass. Randazzo "accidently" replied "Good one, Lauren."

Author:  SomeGuy [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

Regular Reader wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
berns has got the foundation. he knows shit going back to 1980 or so. he was here for payton, lee elia, lived the Ditka years, went to old Comiskey, etc.


I know all of that and agree with you. It's just that imo, as a "Chicago" sports guy he seems....inauthentic?


Because he isn't one, or at least that's how conducts himself while on the air. Can't root for the city or the teams or remember stuff or whatever.

Everything sucks, the 85 Bears are dumb, you're an MJ fan and on and on. I get what he is trying to do but he fails miserably at it.

Author:  bigfan [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:31 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
I disagree. The Score used to be a station where it was important to place the current in context with the past. If you have a few years of backround you are good to go these days.


You might get on the air...not sure it is "GOOD"

Author:  Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

I had a post a while ago about how sports talk radio is a fiercely local medium and with few exceptions, you can make it where you are or not make it at all, and since most people who got in on the ground floor are still there, you won't make it at all. I should try to find it.

EDIT: here it is!

http://www.score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 7&start=25
Curious Hair wrote:
Beardown wrote:
In the melodramatic, odd, weird cry and love fest between Goff and Larry yesterday, Goff, once again, dropped an "I might be going to Miami" comment. He's done this a handful of times. I've asked before with no answer but is this some stupid inside joke that means nothing or is Goff really considering a radio gig in Miami?

You can't go town to town, up and down the dial doing local sports talk. It's the most provincial media we have, and nowadays, it's for established local media personalities and people who were in the right place at the right time when sports talk broke big. That's really about it. Everyone jumped on Drew Hayes's ass when he may or may not have issued his edict about newspaper/television guys guest-hosting ahead of producers, but Drew Hayes is no radio dummy, and gets that sports talk as a format has crystallized so much in the last twenty years that it's just not enough to have A Guy aimlessly grousing about local sports teams anymore. The internet has replaced radio as the refuge of the uncredentialed, uncensored, and uninformed, and now we look to the more established medium for more premium content, insofar as anything about sports talk radio can ever be called "premium." To summarize: if Mike North were to begin his broadcasting career in December 2011, would you think anything other than "what the ever-loving fuck is on my radio"?

It's tough enough as it is to make the jump from a producer to full-time talent when everyone else is one of the aforementioned. Vis-a-vis sports-page veterans in Mulligan, Hanley, Boers, Rozner, and Rosenbloom; or Score lifers like McNeil, Boers again, and practically Bernstein; or Grobstein, who is a category and institution unto himself, who, in that grand scheme of things, is a Jason Goff? Does he hold enough capital with the listenership beyond being Dan and Terry's sidekick? I ask because I seriously don't know. It's daunting, but at least he has some outside shot to move up from within. To listeners in another market, why should they care about a lifelong Chicago guy who is extremely versed in Chicago sports? Even if he were to style himself into a leading authority on Milwaukee sports or Miami sports or Omaha sports, who's buying?

So yeah, sports talk kinda sucks for upward/lateral mobility. You can do a cliche FM Radio Voice between Katy Perry songs anywhere in America. Talking about local sports teams here, there, and everywhere is much harder.

Author:  Colonel Angus [ Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: You gotta be from Chicago

Regular Reader wrote:
Waddle - Ohio?

He's from Kentucky. Some "suburb" of Cincinnati.

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