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Author:  Mini Ditka [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:25 am ]
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I was listening to the Randazzler recently and he was saying in essence that he doesn't think ESPN cares about hockey because they promote women's basketball more than the Hawks. The Randazzler said they don't have any journalistic credibility and they should be just looked at like a sports entertainment channel.
Author:  Powerhouse233 [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:29 am ]
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I don't think they hate hockey, they just cater to their audience. For a long time they have primarily talked about football, basketball, baseball, college football & basketball while sprinkling in a bit of hockey with golf, tennis, etc. They don't carry the NHL, and they do carry the NBA, MLB, and NFL so that plays a part in it as well.
Author:  donspiracy [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:14 am ]
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Powerhouse233 wrote:
I don't think they hate hockey, they just cater to their audience. For a long time they have primarily talked about football, basketball, baseball, college football & basketball while sprinkling in a bit of hockey with golf, tennis, etc. They don't carry the NHL, and they do carry the NBA, MLB, and NFL so that plays a part in it as well.

If ESPN lost their huge college basketball coverage to CBS, Fox or both, it would barely make Sportscenter.

Especially that for both college and pro women's b-ball.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:45 am ]
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Is ESPN really caller Anne?
Author:  Powerhouse233 [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:46 am ]
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Is ESPN really caller Anne?


No, ESPN isn't a dead white woman.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:56 am ]
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Ate you CRAZY?!
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:00 am ]
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There are a lot of people at ESPN who love hockey (Steve Levy and Linda Cohn are the obvious two), but it's been their editorial stance to marginalize the NHL ever since they lost the rights. Even in the waning years of their partnership with the league, the tide was turning with Mark Shapiro in charge, who of course wanted to have more original programming (read: bullshit), but also straight-up didn't like hockey.

The employees back in the day were all said to be pretty serious Bruins or Whalers fans, also.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:07 am ]
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Maybe the dumbest move the NHL ever made (and I know thats saying a lot) was not staying on ESPN. Its free publicity.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:13 am ]
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Hockey is ratings death. Look at how many people watch NBC Sports Network.

Considering there are two other sports stations dedicated almost completely to hockey they are wise to ignore it.

I'm guessing more people around the country care about Ohio State/Indiana in college basketball than any NHL game by a wide margin.
Author:  Mini Ditka [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:38 pm ]
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Does anyone think that the Blackhawks' streak is more significant than the Heat streak? IMO, basketball is much easier to have a long streak because you can have your best players on the floor for the majority of the game. Whereas hockey somewhat depends on your goalie and a lot more players on your team shifting on and off the ice at various times than the number of players involved in a basketball game.
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:59 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey is ratings death. Look at how many people watch NBC Sports Network.

Considering there are two other sports stations dedicated almost completely to hockey they are wise to ignore it.

I'm guessing more people around the country care about Ohio State/Indiana in college basketball than any NHL game by a wide margin.

Rick, even though NBC Sports Network has the NHL for the long haul, nobody's watching that channel. Besides, if the creepy-looking Barry Melrose isn't on one of ESPN's many platforms, the NHL doesn't exist in their opinion.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:06 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
Does anyone think that the Blackhawks' streak is more significant than the Heat streak? IMO, basketball is much easier to have a long streak because you can have your best players on the floor for the majority of the game. Whereas hockey somewhat depends on your goalie and a lot more players on your team shifting on and off the ice at various times than the number of players involved in a basketball game.

One of them is a record, the other one is almost half way to the record


There's your answer
Author:  Seacrest [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:14 pm ]
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SHARK wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey is ratings death. Look at how many people watch NBC Sports Network.

Considering there are two other sports stations dedicated almost completely to hockey they are wise to ignore it.

I'm guessing more people around the country care about Ohio State/Indiana in college basketball than any NHL game by a wide margin.

Rick, even though NBC Sports Network has the NHL for the long haul, nobody's watching that channel. Besides, if the creepy-looking Barry Melrose isn't on one of ESPN's many platforms, the NHL doesn't exist in their opinion.


Back off on the Barry Melrose hate SHARK.
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:19 pm ]
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Seacrest wrote:
SHARK wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey is ratings death. Look at how many people watch NBC Sports Network.

Considering there are two other sports stations dedicated almost completely to hockey they are wise to ignore it.

I'm guessing more people around the country care about Ohio State/Indiana in college basketball than any NHL game by a wide margin.

Rick, even though NBC Sports Network has the NHL for the long haul, nobody's watching that channel. Besides, if the creepy-looking Barry Melrose isn't on one of ESPN's many platforms, the NHL doesn't exist in their opinion.


Back off on the Barry Melrose hate SHARK.

I don't hate the guy! In fact, he shaved off the facial hair on ESPNEWS last night. Hard to believe, Barry Melrose could've been the Blackhawks' head coach long before Coach Q guided the Indianheads to the Stanley Cup in 2010. If he, Steve Levy, Linda Cohn & John Buccigross aren't on ESPN, the NHL doesn't exist to them.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:24 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Maybe the dumbest move the NHL ever made (and I know thats saying a lot) was not staying on ESPN. Its free publicity.

ESPN didn't want the NHL. Go back and read Those Guys Have All The Fun: Shapiro wanted to focus on basketball and original content, and only made the NHL a perfunctory, insulting offer for the sake of saying they did. ESPN was basically created as an outlet for Hartford Whalers games, but they finally got too big for hockey, and so they had to go.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hockey is ratings death. Look at how many people watch NBC Sports Network.

Considering there are two other sports stations dedicated almost completely to hockey they are wise to ignore it.

I'm guessing more people around the country care about Ohio State/Indiana in college basketball than any NHL game by a wide margin.


It's just not a national sport and never will be. They tried to make it a national sport by expanding the footprint, but all that did was overload the league with talentless gumps and fans who didn't care, and it brought the quality of the league to previously unplumbed lows. What we have now, where hockey gets terrific local ratings in the northeast and midwest, is about as good as it's going to get from here on out, and that's fine enough, I guess.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:24 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
I was listening to the Randazzler recently and he was saying in essence that he doesn't think ESPN cares about hockey because they promote women's basketball more than the Hawks. The Randazzler said they don't have any journalistic credibility and they should be just looked at like a sports entertainment channel.

Do you know what the E stands for in ESPN?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:26 pm ]
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Eastern. Or East Coast.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:26 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Eastern.

Hawk wrote:
No
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:30 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
I was listening to the Randazzler recently and he was saying in essence that he doesn't think ESPN cares about hockey because they promote women's basketball more than the Hawks. The Randazzler said they don't have any journalistic credibility and they should be just looked at like a sports entertainment channel.

Do you know what the E stands for in ESPN?

Guys, ESPN is supposed to stand for Entertainment & Sports Programming Network.
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:31 pm ]
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SHARK wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
I was listening to the Randazzler recently and he was saying in essence that he doesn't think ESPN cares about hockey because they promote women's basketball more than the Hawks. The Randazzler said they don't have any journalistic credibility and they should be just looked at like a sports entertainment channel.

Do you know what the E stands for in ESPN?

Guys, ESPN is supposed to stand for Entertainment & Sports Programming Network.

Thanks shark.
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:31 pm ]
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Darkside wrote:
SHARK wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Mini Ditka wrote:
I was listening to the Randazzler recently and he was saying in essence that he doesn't think ESPN cares about hockey because they promote women's basketball more than the Hawks. The Randazzler said they don't have any journalistic credibility and they should be just looked at like a sports entertainment channel.

Do you know what the E stands for in ESPN?

Guys, ESPN is supposed to stand for Entertainment & Sports Programming Network.

Thanks shark.

I thought everyone knew that. :oops: :lol:
Author:  pittmike [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:32 pm ]
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I thought it stood for Peter Gammons is a cock sucker?
Author:  Darkside [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:32 pm ]
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SHARK wrote:
I thought everyone knew that. :oops: :lol:

The did. It was kind of why I asked the question in the first place.
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:30 pm ]
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pittmike wrote:
I thought it stood for Peter Gammons is a cock sucker?

:lol: its that point in Wednesday when it is time to fire off shots on stroke victims. Bret Hart is the most over-loved wrestler of all time!
Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:30 pm ]
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Who doesn't hate hockey?
Author:  Mini Ditka [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:32 am ]
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Keeping Score wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Who doesn't hate hockey?


It freaks me out that a team doesn't get a loss even when they lose.


The shootout is a gimmick. A few years ago all the shootout wins and losses would be ties since there was no shootout. So even though they they technically lost 3 shootouts in terms of regulation losses it's still the same as a tie since they were scoreless at the end of overtime.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:11 pm ]
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I don't object to the shootout so much as the frequency of them. A five-round shootout after a ten-minute overtime would be palatable. The 2010 Coyotes and 2012 Wild had at least 20 shootouts out of 82. Too damn many.
Author:  Mini Ditka [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:19 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
I don't object to the shootout so much as the frequency of them. A five-round shootout after a ten-minute overtime would be palatable. The 2010 Coyotes and 2012 Wild had at least 20 shootouts out of 82. Too damn many.


Well, maybe instead of 5 on 5 in the overtime they could just bring out a bigger goal or play with two pucks. That might increase the odds of the game not ending in a shootout.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:23 pm ]
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Mini Ditka wrote:
play with two pucks.

I love this idea.

How about for every minute of overtime that happens, a new puck is added on the ice. No more ties ever.
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:27 pm ]
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I never thought about this. Why do they have shootouts in the regular season but NOT in the Stanley Cup Playoffs?
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