Gill acts like he was in fear for his life?
You've got 5 or 6 guys in suits at a TV studio. He was not in danger of being murdered. Just back away, Kendall. Run behind David Kaplan.
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
David Haugh In the Wake of the News 6:46 p.m. CDT, October 26, 2013 Kendall Gill held his palm 6 inches from his nose. "He was this close to me,'' Gill recalled calmly at his kitchen table. "That's my personal space.'' Seven months have passed since Gill punched college sports analyst Tim Doyle in the CSN Chicago newsroom but time has done little to change Gill's mind that he did what he had to do under the circumstances. Detailing the incident for the first time inside his stylish home on the South Side, Gill described the exchange that cost him his job as CSN's Bulls analyst as an example of self-defense more than the loss of self-control. "I've been in the NBA 15 years and broadcasting for seven seasons,'' said Gill, who averaged 13.4 points in 966 NBA games for seven teams from 1990-2005. "You know how many people have said things to me? I know how to walk away from a fight. But nobody ever got in my face and was this close, saying F-you.'' It all started March 19 when Gill was in a post-show meeting in CSN news director Kevin Cross' office with the television on. Gill heard Doyle, on the panel of "SportsTalk Live,'' criticize his and Stacey King's interpretation of a basket-interference call that cost the Bulls a last-second overtime victory against the Nuggets the previous night. Known for offering strong and colorful opinions, Doyle referred to Gill and King as friends but expressed surprise at how emphatic they were that the call was wrong. He kidded about plans to stop following both guys on Twitter. The glib words incensed Gill. "You can't come to our station and throw us under the bus like that,'' said Gill, 45. "I said, OK, I'm going to wait for him to come off the show and say, 'Be professional. Respect us.' That was my idea.'' Soon, Gill's good intentions escalated into bad blood. Outside Cross' office, Gill approached Doyle as he exited through the CSN newsroom. "I was like, 'Tim, you can't come on our show and discredit us like that. We're the Bulls analysts. I'd appreciate a little more respect,''' Gill claimed. "As soon as I said that, the guy gets in my face without hesitation and says, 'F--- you, what the F--- are you going to do about it?' Then he got in my personal space.'' According to Gill, at that point he pushed Doyle against the wall. "He kept talking, saying, 'You don't know where I'm from,''' Gill said. "Now I don't know what this guy will do. Where I'm from, if you (act) like that, you're going to do something to me. So I started looking at his chest because if he's going to do something I can see it all coming from right there. He didn't take a swing but I felt his body come toward me. It was a natural reaction. I'm not thinking I'm at Comcast SportsNet, I'm thinking about self-preservation. I saw him move closer and that's when I threw a punch.'' A trained boxer, Gill connected his fist with the front of Doyle's mouth. Several people separated the two 6-foot-5 men scuffling in suits. Hours later, Danny Ecker, a reporter for Crain's who was on the panel with Doyle, broke the story online and reported blood was drawn. Ecker refused interview requests from the Tribune to discuss his version of events Gill disputed. "I did just enough to back (Doyle) off,'' Gill said. "Listen, I've studied (martial arts) and boxing for 15 years. If I really wanted to hurt the guy I could have hurt him. But I didn't.'' Doyle preferred not to rehash details but defended his right to disagree with Gill on the air without having to fear for his safety off of it. "In the business we're in, we get paid to express our opinions,'' said Doyle, 31, a former Northwestern forward. "I played basketball at a really high level — not the NBA but Big Ten. I was not great but pretty good. I thought that was a rules call. I have a lot of respect for Kendall. He played a long time in the NBA. But my opinion was he got that wrong. That was it.'' On an ESPN set in Bristol, Conn., minutes after the melee, Stephen Bardo's cellphone rang. Bardo was the first person Gill called after storming out of CSN. The two have been close since starring for the Flyin' Illini from 1986-90 so Bardo immediately sensed trouble from Gill's voice. "I love Kendall like a brother and he's not going to like me saying this … but he was wrong,'' said Bardo, who's starting a YouTube show with Gill called BackcourtOnline.com. "I know he was trying to defend himself but you can't hit another man in the workplace. That's not Kendall's nature. He should have just said, 'Tim, you know, that NBA team you played on … oh, that's right, you didn't play in the NBA. So shut up.' That was all he needed to say.'' Instead, Gill's act deprived him of the opportunity to speak about the Bulls in an analyst role he loved. After immediately suspending Gill for the rest of the 2012-13 season CSN decided last summer not to offer him a contract and hired former Bulls center Will Perdue to sit alongside host Mark Schanowski. "After an offseason evaluation process, we made the decision to not bring Kendall back,'' Cross said. "We appreciate everything Kendall has provided our network over the years and wish him nothing but success.'' Gill cherishes the extra family time with his wife, Wendy, and young sons Phoenix and Kota but, with the Bulls season opening Tuesday in Miami, he misses the camaraderie at CSN — especially with Cross, Schanowski and producer Kevin Anderson. He knew he gave CSN officials no choice but to discipline him but wondered if the punishment fit the crime. "I believe the suspension was warranted because that can't happen,'' said Gill, who gave his version to CSN over the phone. "Originally, the thought was, "OK, we'll suspend you the rest of the regular season. The next morning I got a call from Comcast that said they changed their mind and it was for the playoffs too. I was shocked and disappointed, seeing I had given them seven seasons. I thought I was part of the family.'' Admittedly out of line in an office environment, Gill still thinks his response was justified. Asked if he regretted hitting Doyle, Gill paused for several seconds as he looked at one of the many customized pieces of art hanging on his walls. "I'm disappointed in what happened and never wanted to leave a job that way,'' Gill said. "I don't condone violence but do believe in defending yourself. Am I sorry I did what I did? I can't apologize for being a man. Any man would have done what I did. "I can't apologize for that.'' dhaugh@tribune.com |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Isnt Kendall Gill from Olympia Fields or University Village? While it has some less expensive housing in some areas, it isnt like a gang war of whose turf is whose? Kendall sounds like a guy who lost his temper and is trying to justify what he did with this "personal space invasion" Of course the big pussy in the whole thing looks like Danny Ecker. Sports Gossip reporter who saw the whole thing and didnt report it. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
This story is so damned funny to me. "Acting like a man" by punching a guy in the mouth for saying "Fuck you?" I'm not so sure how that's different from a child acting the same way in a similar situation. The "manly" thing would have been to remember you were at work and simply walked away. Didn't sound to me like Doyle was physically threatening Gill in any way. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Comcast SportsNet Fireable Offenses 1. Not being a young woman 2. Reporting on the Blackhawks 3. Saying "sex" on TV 4. Punching Tim Doyle None of these are fair! |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Gill acts like he was in fear for his life? You've got 5 or 6 guys in suits at a TV studio. He was not in danger of being murdered. Just back away, Kendall. Run behind David Kaplan.
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Doyle easily could have sued Gill for some good easy cash. Its not just a guy punching someone, it is a guy who has trained to be a boxer hitting someone, I am pretty sure that elevates the issue. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Gill only hits white guys. Racist. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
It's surprising that Tim Doyle doesn't get punched in the face more. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
bigfan wrote: Isnt Kendall Gill from Olympia Fields or University Village? While it has some less expensive housing in some areas, it isnt like a gang war of whose turf is whose? Kendall sounds like a guy who lost his temper and is trying to justify what he did with this "personal space invasion" Of course the big pussy in the whole thing looks like Danny Ecker. Sports Gossip reporter who saw the whole thing and didnt report it. Olympia Fields was upper class for a long time. Now its kinda mixed. Never gangs though. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Doyle saying "you don't know where I'm from" is a typically New York response. Gill think the punishment was too severe, but then pretty much said his actions were justified and he'd do it again. Bardo has a little Hub in him. Does anyone remember the great NBA career of Stephen Bardo? |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
punch somebody at work, you get fired. End of story. STFU David Haugh and Kendall Gill. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Hatchetman wrote: punch somebody at work, you get fired. End of story. STFU David Haugh and Kendall Gill. Gotta do a hard push! Dannnnmmmneal style. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
He should have asked him to step outside as per Marquess of Queensberry rules and this would have been avoided what's happened to manners in this country? |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Gill was wrong. Deserved what he got. But can we also agree that Doyle is an ass hat and likely a racist? |
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| Author: | T-Bone [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Gill will be on with Spiegs and Finfer in about 5 minutes. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
T-Bone wrote: Gill will be on with Spiegs and Finfer in about 5 minutes. You have got to be shitting me.... |
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| Author: | Hawkeye Vince [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Curious Hair wrote: Comcast SportsNet Fireable Offenses 1. Not being a young woman 2. Reporting on the Blackhawks 3. Saying "sex" on TV 4. Punching Tim Doyle None of these are fair! You forgot sleeping with a Blackhawk as well. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
T-Bone wrote: Gill will be on with Spiegs and Finfer in about 5 minutes. It's a shame Laurence Holmes isn't in studio to give Gill some advice on how not to punch people all the time.
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Would LoHO call him "Kee-andle"? |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
bigfan wrote: Doyle easily could have sued Gill for some good easy cash. Its not just a guy punching someone, it is a guy who has trained to be a boxer hitting someone, I am pretty sure that elevates the issue. On the one hand, Gill is a trained boxer and MMA fighter capable of busting Doyle to pieces at will. On the other, he was frightened and threatened by the menacing presence of the slow, tiny, and white small forward from Northwestern. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Doyle easily could have sued Gill for some good easy cash. Its not just a guy punching someone, it is a guy who has trained to be a boxer hitting someone, I am pretty sure that elevates the issue. On the one hand, Gill is a trained boxer and MMA fighter capable of busting Doyle to pieces at will. On the other, he was frightened and threatened by the menacing presence of the slow, tiny, and white small forward from Northwestern. |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Would LoHO call him "Kee-andle"? Kindle. Hawkeye Vince wrote: Curious Hair wrote: Comcast SportsNet Fireable Offenses 1. Not being a young woman 2. Reporting on the Blackhawks 3. Saying "sex" on TV 4. Punching Tim Doyle None of these are fair! You forgot sleeping with a Blackhawk as well. I wanted to forget. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Curious Hair wrote: Comcast SportsNet Fireable Offenses 1. Not being a young woman 2. Reporting on the Blackhawks 3. Saying "sex" on TV 4. Punching Tim Doyle None of these are fair! Only 1 of those gets you rehired though. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: T-Bone wrote: Gill will be on with Spiegs and Finfer in about 5 minutes. It's a shame Laurence Holmes isn't in studio to give Gill some advice on how not to punch people all the time.If it were Laurence, we'd have a homicide on our hands |
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| Author: | Chus [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Beardown wrote: "I love Kendall like a brother and he's not going to like me saying this … but he was wrong,'' said Bardo, who's starting a YouTube show with Gill called BackcourtOnline.com. "I know he was trying to defend himself but you can't hit another man in the workplace. That's not Kendall's nature. He should have just said, 'Tim, you know, that NBA team you played on … oh, that's right, you didn't play in the NBA. So shut up.' That was all he needed to say.'' Hub Bardo |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
| @ Chus...Hub Bardo I miss Gill,thought he did a great job. |
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| Author: | Regular Reader [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Beardown wrote: ...Doyle, 31, a former Northwestern forward. "I played basketball at a really high level — not the NBA but Big Ten. I was not great but pretty good. He had to be kidding!
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
So basically Gill was pissed off because someone else dare voice a contrary opinion ? Wow dude, grow a pair. |
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| Author: | 8675309 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Did Hub play for the Expos? |
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| Author: | No Clever Moniker [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kendall Gill says Tim Doyle had it coming |
Gill claims Doyle got into his personal space and said "Fuck You." As sympathetic a story Haugh tries to tell and Gill spins, the result remains the same: Gill sought out Doyle for a confrontation and things escalated, Gill lost his composure and his sense of professionalism because someone thought differently and dared to express such an opinion. The whole personal space issue is bogus as it was Gill who pressed the issue. He's lucky Doyle didn't haul him to court on assault charges. |
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