sinicalypse wrote:
hey CH, since you're the board's resident radio historian i have a question for you.... in lieu of the new "q" 87.7 i had one of my friends recently tell me "dude, it's the new q101.... they moved from 101.1 to 87.7" and i'm like "uhhh dude, emmis communications sold q101 to a group with that one dude....not metheny but the guy who was kicked out of WGN for throwing debaucherous parties in the colonel's office..... you know, that one jewish guy who changed his name.... randy michaels i wanna say?
yeah so i tried explaining to him that q87.7 had to be someone figuring "hey there has to be some leftover market/share from q101 going away so let's brand this station "Q"and have a contemporary q101-style playlist and we'll achieve brand recognition b4 people even hear the product" but he's like NUH UH [repeats his point] (which if you read my latest adventures on the board here tonight you'll see that i get quite a lot b4 they sod off and go ad hominem cuz [insert samuel L jackson from 187 quote about a pyrrhic victory here].
so yeah in this case i got NUH-UH'd that, indeed, 87.7 is the direct descendant of q101 and in fact it's actually the same damn radio station with the same ownership/staff/etc just moved down the dial.... so can you back me up with my 95% likelihood of being right, or can you join the minority in condeming me as talking out of my ass (and surrprise surprise my family was on an episode of south park once)
Hmm, I think we hashed this one out in one of the board-schism megathreads that got nuked, so let me try to piece it back together, because it's kind of wonky.
So yeah, Emmis had owned the Loop and Q101, and then sold them to Merlin Media, which is indeed that Randy Michaels-led investment group. They killed Q101 to start the FM News station that eventually zeroed out, but first they sold the intellectual property of Q101 (the logo, brand, shows, imaging packages) to an outside group that had planned to reinvent Q101 as an internet-only station. I don't think it happened, at least not on the level they had hoped.
As FM News started to resemble the all-time clusterfuck it ultimately turned out to be, the Merlin people realized that perhaps killing off a decent station and hocking the IP assets for a few bucks was a bad idea. However, they couldn't hit ctrl+z on the whole thing because they legally couldn't call it Q101 anymore and also because Randy Michaels is a stubborn genius and wouldn't have done it if he did own the IP.
So they found this low-power TV station that functions as a backdoor FM radio station because audio for TV channel 6 is carried over 87.7 (or was before the analog shutdown, and more on that later) and went into a "local marketing agreement," which is when you start running a radio station you don't own without buying it, either because you're over the market limit or you don't have the money -- the latter in this case. 87.7 had been a smooth jazz station called "The L" filling the void after the old WNUA went Español, and I'm sure shitty smooth jazz was just as low-revenue at 87.7 as it was at 95.5, so the owners were happy to let the Merlin people rent their TV station that pretends to be a radio station. So they called it Q87.7 and changed the callsign to WKQX-LP, with juuuust enough differences in the logo and imaging as to sidestep any legal claims that they were using property they no longer owned, but musically pretty much the same.
So when you said that someone figured "hey let's just bring back Q101 because people seemed to like it," you were right, but it was the same dopes who botched the whole thing in the first place. When your friend said it was a direct descendant of Q101, he's basically right, too, but I don't think there's any staff to speak of. I'm pretty sure it's all automated. The end result is a nobody-wins schism, which makes our tangent about it in the lost Keeping Score thread META AS FUCK: the music associated with Q101 is still on the air at a compromised dial position (and again, more on that later), while the conceptual lineage of Q101 has been relegated to the internet. It kind of reminds me of when the WWF bought ECW and ran the One Night Stand show while at the same some other ECW castoffs ran a similar alumni show at the ECW Arena. Which one was the real one? To paraphrase my dumbass Molly Lambert quote, simultaneously neither and both.
Anyway, where this whole adventure becomes tragically doomed is that 87.7 is most likely going to die. Like I said, channel 6 audio is at 87.7, but that's only for analog signals. Full-power analog TV signals have been shut down and converted to digital. Low-power TV stations are the next to go. Because Q87.7 is still legally a low-power TV station (you'll notice that Comcast carries it with some perfunctory weather graphics on screen), it's going to have to make that switch. When it does, radios won't pick up 87.7 audio. The FCC only licenses FM to go from 88 to 108. Some radio manufacturers allow tuners to dip into the 87s for things like iPod transmitters, but some radios stop at 88.1. I don't think the old manual dials ever went below 88. So when the loophole closes on Q87, you'd like for the happy ending to be some benevolent chap buying back the IP from the streaming people and the frequency from Merlin (which is in its death throes), but it's a near-foregone conclusion that 101.1 is destined to become the over-the-air WGN-FM. Maybe they'll even give Father Of The Year a six-hour show on there just to spite you.
I hope this answered your question!
sinicalypse wrote:
and OOOOH SNAP CH, you done raised the stakes in the avatar game. well played. this is the point where i pretend to know who the chick is and say "well played, CH" but hope that you mention who that is because honestly i'm sure once i know it's going to end up being a clever reference and thus i'm going to have to finally install shoop-da-woop cs3 and go make the avatar that i saw in my head when i finally got around to watching elysium.
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