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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:23 am 
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Rod Zimmerman must love me because I switch from one CBS radio outlet to another. Heard Andrew Cohen, legal analyst for CBS radio (on CBS News radio) give his opinion on the latest lawsuit against the NFL. A sober and sound opinion that was neatly titrated into about 2 minutes of radio. Then (on WSCR) Eldon Ham came on, first thing he states is that he hadn't read the lawsuit. Nothing against Ham, but the only thing worse than non-lawyers arguing the law is when lawyers do lawyer-talk about a lawsuit they haven't read. I then wondered why Bernstein thought NFL players suing over the team's medical advice was valid but a certain NBA player shouldn't question his team's doctor.

I tried with Joe Cowley but kept getting sidetracked by Larry Holmes insistence on creating verbal pollution. The redundant restating of what his partner says is as distracting as it is annoying. Is there nothing that will keep Larry both terse and incisive?

Later I heard them attempt to defend the concept of bandwagon fans for the Blackhawks. Again, Holmes gets me either confused, distracted, or listening to another station. At one point I thought he was trying to agree with Dan while contradicting him in the same sentence. I wasn't sure, but the thought hit me as to how Dan responds to his own bandwagon fans/callers. Their declarative "we've already talked about this/they've already explained this..." is really anti-bandwagon.

The final thing I remember was Larry trying to explain how social media is making the newest of fans the best of fans, don't know how that is valid, how it works, or what he actually meant (message boards like this excepted, because here everyone is a better fan). The Internet certainly has had a role in being informative but 144 character missives or following somebody on Facebook is likely to lead to a whole new breed of shallow and attention deficient fans, repeating what someone else told them and then repeating it again more slowly with an emphasis on the wrong words to prove they still don't know what they're talking about.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 10:49 am 
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Though loathe to never say never, I think the days of not selling out will be extremely rare in the future. As one who remembers the days of the black-outs (and trying to find someone with a directional antenna to get the South Bend station), the modernized Soldier Field has great football oriented sight lines and amenities. Not only is there enough demand to fill another 10,000 seats but I think Chicago area could actually support a 2nd NFL franchise (though it would need a suitable football venue).


Oh, I don't think the Bears are ever going to be in danger of not selling out. That'll always be taken care of. I'm just saying that the Bears' supposed hegemony over the Chicago sports landscape won't and can't last forever. Wouldn't you agree that Chicago took its foot off the gas with the Bears while Jordan was here? Would you say that the same thing happened to a lesser extent in 2003/2004 when the Cubs seemed to be on the cusp of something special (whoops) while the Bears were in sort of a lull? I mean, there's no shame in it. You can't have the volume at 10 all the time. San Francisco let up on the 49ers when they were in their recent dark age and the Giants were the story, and the 49ers a better franchise than the Bears are.

I think we saw a tiny little backlash against All Bears All The Time when the draft rightfully took a back seat to the Stanley Cup. Then again, Bears fans know that draft day is generally not a red-letter day for this organization. I'll never forget 2007. Woof.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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I see each sport as separate entities and given when ticket deposits are due the correlation between "media interest" and fan support isn't that strong. When Jordan was winning with the Bulls there was a waiting list and scarcity for tickets, and really little overlap between a late season NFL game and an early season Jordan romp. Baseball rarely gets interesting in this town in late September and Bears overlap for one game has been a rarity. I have done the Bears afternoon/Hawks evening experience but that was more for the sake of doing it, and when I was much younger.

Bottom line: The fans of one sport aren't necessarily distracted by the success of another.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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Stupid Dan has his finger stuck up his rear end and calls it the pulse of youth.

The trendiest of trendy sports with the kids isn't hockey, it is lacrosse.



LAX is huge. My kid is in his second year.


A lot of hockey kids play lacrosse in the summer. We know a couple kids that play because they can't afford hockey or they can't skate.


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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:20 am 
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I think the B&B ALS is pretty much done here. Nice work Some Guy , JORR, Robert chief and others

apparently that entire ALS thread got the ax.

Too bad, I loved that thread.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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good dolphin wrote:
Stupid Dan has his finger stuck up his rear end and calls it the pulse of youth.

The trendiest of trendy sports with the kids isn't hockey, it is lacrosse.


Lacrosse will be the coolest thing white people can do until they aren't the best at it. :lol:

Then they will all move to some other dumb shit that takes over park space for summer.


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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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Spaulding wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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Stupid Dan has his finger stuck up his rear end and calls it the pulse of youth.

The trendiest of trendy sports with the kids isn't hockey, it is lacrosse.



LAX is huge. My kid is in his second year.


A lot of hockey kids play lacrosse in the summer. We know a couple kids that play because they can't afford hockey or they can't skate.



Yeah see the hockey thing here too. My kid and his football buddies started to keep in shape. I never knew it was all over like it is.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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Spaulding wrote:
pittmike wrote:
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Stupid Dan has his finger stuck up his rear end and calls it the pulse of youth.

The trendiest of trendy sports with the kids isn't hockey, it is lacrosse.



LAX is huge. My kid is in his second year.


A lot of hockey kids play lacrosse in the summer. We know a couple kids that play because they can't afford hockey or they can't skate.


Hockey players who can't skate?

That reminds me of the SNL bit with the men's Olympic water dancer who can't swim.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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Peoria Matt wrote:
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I think Danny was spot on re: "bandwagon fans" and the Blackhawks.

Then, of course, Learry, "you're absolutely right, Dan".


What did Dan have to say regarding "bandwagon fans"?

He basically said that "bandwagon fans" came to the Hawks with Toews and Kane and that was 7 years ago now. Many of those fans are young kids or college age and for many, hockey is now their primary sport. He also said the organization cares more about those fans because they will be fans longer because they are younger and will have more money to spend.

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 Post subject: Re: 5/20 Bored malaise
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Franky T wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Franky T wrote:
I think Danny was spot on re: "bandwagon fans" and the Blackhawks.

Then, of course, Learry, "you're absolutely right, Dan".


What did Dan have to say regarding "bandwagon fans"?

He basically said that "bandwagon fans" came to the Hawks with Toews and Kane and that was 7 years ago now. Many of those fans are young kids or college age and for many, hockey is now their primary sport. He also said the organization cares more about those fans because they will be fans longer because they are younger and will have more money to spend.


Which is a pretty good thought IMO but with Dan you dont know if he really believes that or if it was just the good ol' Hockey fan trolling.

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