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or they saw what I was calling about. I'll try again.

Im just playfully ribbing you.

I'm just hoping to get a MLBTV invite.

Did I mention that already?

Yes.

Ive been discouraged from that idea. I mean, Id do it, but from what I hear its not going to work.

I guess Proxy's are easy to get, but Proxy's that are suitable for streaming are as rare as Unicorns


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I'd just like to state that "big black studs" and "LOOK AT THEIR BODIES" makes me very uncomfortable when uttered by Bernstein. Always has. Very slave auction-ish.


That's not how I take it.



How else could you take it?

We're just feeding the Keeping Score beast at this point, aren't we?

And I, for one, can't think of a context where "big black studs" and "LOOK AT THEIR BODIES" isn't exploitative and icky.

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Did anyone catch them talking about Russell and Chamberlain the other day? They were gushing over Russell's athleticism and Terry made a comment like "Wilt was not as nearly as skilled of an athlete as Russell". I couldn't believe what I was hearing from this old NBA scribe. Every player.... literally every player from Russell's era, including Russell himself, says Chamberlain was by far the most athletic player of that era and any era (that could probably be debated). Just about everyone says Wilt had freakish strength, incredible leaping ability and speed and these two guys (especially Terry) completely brush over it.


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Yes, Magic is the greater player, although Bird was seen as the better player from about 1979-1986. Magic had better longevity as well. I disagree that he's arguably the greatest non-center, I think Michael is clearly better and I think LeBron will ultimately have a superior career.



Why is Michael "clearly" better?


Because Jordan was a significantly better scorer and defender, while still being having tremendous passing ability (certainly not comparable to Magic).


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Yes, Magic is the greater player, although Bird was seen as the better player from about 1979-1986. Magic had better longevity as well. I disagree that he's arguably the greatest non-center, I think Michael is clearly better and I think LeBron will ultimately have a superior career.



Why is Michael "clearly" better?


Because Jordan was a significantly better scorer and defender, while still being having tremendous passing ability (certainly not comparable to Magic).


Oh dear, here we go....


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Did anyone catch them talking about Russell and Chamberlain the other day. They were gushing over Russell's athleticism and Terry made a comment like "Wilt was not as nearly as skilled of an athlete as Russell". I couldn't believe what I was hearing from this old NBA scribe. Every player.... literally every player from Russell's era, including Russell himself, says Chamberlain was by far the most athletic player of that era and any era (that could probably be debated). Just about everyone says Wilt had freakish strength, incredible leaping ability and speed and these two guys (especially Terry) completely brush over it.

I heard that conversation. I've learned over the last four months that B&B are just not very good at talking basketball. I appreciate that they try to talk basketball more than other shows, but yeah...bad thoughts.

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Kid Cairo is certainly not a B and B apologist.


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Russell was more "skilled" at playing basketball. Dude gave up 5 inches and 50 pounds to Wilt and still played him even. Course Wilt could run and jump and screw 5 women in a row....

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Did anyone catch them talking about Russell and Chamberlain the other day. They were gushing over Russell's athleticism and Terry made a comment like "Wilt was not as nearly as skilled of an athlete as Russell". I couldn't believe what I was hearing from this old NBA scribe. Every player.... literally every player from Russell's era, including Russell himself, says Chamberlain was by far the most athletic player of that era and any era (that could probably be debated). Just about everyone says Wilt had freakish strength, incredible leaping ability and speed and these two guys (especially Terry) completely brush over it.

I heard that conversation. I've learned over the last four months that B&B are just not very good at talking basketball. I appreciate that they try to talk basketball more than other shows, but yeah...bad thoughts.


Exactly. For guys who are so called "NBA guys" it was insane how uneducated they were to Chamberlain's mythologized athleticism.


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I thought helmets didn't prevent the brain from hitting the skull; therefore they don't prevent concussions. But a helmet somehow did for Danny? Magic helmet?

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Russell was more "skilled" at playing basketball. Dude gave up 5 inches and 50 pounds to Wilt and still played him even. Course Wilt could run and jump and screw 5 women in a row....


He didn't play him even, he was destroyed, as was everyone else. Russell was fortunate to play with a slew of hall of famers. Chamberlain played on two truly great teams.


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I thought helmets didn't prevent the brain from hitting the skull; therefore they don't prevent concussions. But a helmet somehow did for Danny? Magic helmet?


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Even as a kid, I thought the force in which Elmer exclaimed, "KILL DA WABBITS!" was a bit much for a cartoon.

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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd


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Quick statistical analysis shows Russell held Wilt to about 10 below his average, while Russell was right at his average. Plus Russell won most of the time. Wilt was better of course, but given his size compared to the rest of the league, how could he not dominate?

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Even as a kid, I thought the force in which Elmer exclaimed, "KILL DA WABBITS!" was a bit much for a cartoon.


Much like Laurence Holmes makes it no secret that he likes to fuck hot bitches, Elmer gots to let everyone to know that he needs to kill some goddamn wabbits.


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Quick statistical analysis shows Russell held Wilt to about 10 below his average, while Russell was right at his average. Plus Russell won most of the time. Wilt was better of course, but given his size compared to the rest of the league, how could he not dominate?


Could you provide that data because I don't think that's accurate. I believe Chamberlain averaged about 28.7 to Russell's 14.5. Really, Russell vs Chamberlain is not fair. Russell played on historic teams littered with hall of famers and Russell was a terrific player, but Chamberlain was by far the superior individual player who wasn't as fortunate to play on great teams.


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Bernstein's utter infatuation with numbers and sabermetrics has not done anything positive for this show.


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Twitter peeps busted out Dan on the helmet and concussion. He half assed his explanation.

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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd

The same voice...The late, great Mel Blanc.


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SHARK wrote:
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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd

The same voice...The late, great Mel Blanc.


Genius voice-over artist, makes Dan Castellaneta look like a prissy little school boy.


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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd

The same voice...The late, great Mel Blanc.


Genius voice-over artist, makes Dan Castellaneta look like a prissy little school boy.

uh...what?

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Could you provide that data because I don't think that's accurate. I believe Chamberlain averaged about 28.7 to Russell's 14.5.


Just look at their career averages through about 1965, when Russell started to decline (he was older).

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Could you provide that data because I don't think that's accurate. I believe Chamberlain averaged about 28.7 to Russell's 14.5.


Just look at their career averages through about 1965, when Russell started to decline (he was older).


He was only 2 years older. I'm talking about their head to head numbers.


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Powerhouse233 wrote:
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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd

The same voice...The late, great Mel Blanc.


Genius voice-over artist, makes Dan Castellaneta look like a prissy little school boy.

...and Mel Blanc also got face time, sort of speak, on the old "Jack Benny Program" as a series regular in the golden age of TV, long before SHARK was even born. Thank God for reruns!


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SHARK wrote:
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Yosemite Sam > Elmer Fudd

The same voice...The late, great Mel Blanc.


Genius voice-over artist, makes Dan Castellaneta look like a prissy little school boy.

...and Mel Blanc also got face time, sort of speak, on the old "Jack Benny Program" as a series regular in the golden age of TV, long before SHARK was even born. Thank God for reruns!


Yes, he played a mexican character that would say si over and over again.


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He was only 2 years older. I'm talking about their head to head numbers.
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Russell was a defensive specialist. Of course Wilt would outscore him. That's like saying Jordan is better than Magic because he scored more points.

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He was only 2 years older. I'm talking about their head to head numbers.


Russell was a defensive specialist. Of course Wilt would outscore him. That's like saying Jordan is better than Magic because he scored more points.[/quote]

Wilt was a great defender and rebounder as well. Chamberlain is the most prolific rebounder in league history.


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Look, Terry said that just looking at BB skill relative to athletic ability, Russell was more "skilled." Given the huge physical size difference I don't think that is that controversial a statement. Terry is actually old enough to have seen these guys play. I'll take his word for it over yours.

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