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any of you guys just listen to the bunch of commercials they had on the stream? I feel like I just had a lobotomy. RVs? who the hell buys RVs? Heritage for the Blind? did you hear that? WTF?

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This whole thing is utterly stupid. Michael Jordan has probably been shown to be far more of a douche than Lebron James has ever been. And not all of it has come in the age of social media either. There were some things that he did during his playing career that were common knowledge and it still didn't prevent any of the moralist such as yourself from rooting for him If he played in a Bulls uniform today people in Chicago would still root for him.
If you want to think Jordan was a douche go ahead.

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The comment comparing Lebron James to Donald Sterling is also stupid. It is what is known in the logic game as a false equivalency
Donald Sterling was mentioned because I gave you seven reasons why and you used the "bad day" excuse. So, I picked someone who most think is a bad guy. I'm sure if you ignore 7 reasons why Sterling is a douche he becomes less of one too.

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Besides the obvious penis-ness, why did Dan jump down the guy's throat who made the Kanye West comment? I wasn't listening until then.

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Yikes! Hitler wasn't available for comparison?
Aren't you one of the "Donald Sterling was wronged" guys, or is your trolling taking a break?

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[quote="No Clever Moniker"]I wouldn't doubt that there are a few here who could label Tim Duncan negatively, if they gave a moment's interest.

What strikes me about the past two columns by the Señor Columnist is that in two balky stabs he proves he really knows little about the game, and isn't really sure of his convictions. The Spurs won by playing a superior brand of team ball in a team sport. The Señor Columnist proclaims that the local team should be more like the champions. The next column has him running back to the other side of the yard, the game's greatest player is worth sacrificing any notion of team in order to acquire him. The irony of this is that the champions built their team with a conservative and steady approach, holding onto their own and acquiring talent that would fit them best. They go 7 years between championships with essentially a fixed core and the timely maturation of new additions.

The Bulls are built and operate in a similar fashion as the Spurs: an emphasis on the sum of their parts, a coaching emphasis on tenacious defense, and a blue collar ethic. Its why I laughed at the "Be Like The Spurs" column because in so many aspects that is exactly how the Bulls are trying to be. The latter column has a critical flaw so immense that it belies the author's basketball ignorance. Lebron James may be the best player in the game, but his presence on a team doesn't guarantee winning. James is beatable and has been beaten, again.

That is precisely my issue with the Bernstein article. It displays an actual lack of knowledge about the game itself. He is arguing that acquiring Lebron James at all costs should be the ultimate goal of the Bulls when at all costs is precisely what is costing the Heat right now. He is continuing to make the argument that Lebron James and only Lebron can win a championship even as Lebron James just got his ass handed to him. He is criticizing the Heat for not having enough around him but the reason that they can't put enough around him is because they are paying a guy $20 million a year that is no longer a $20 million a year player. Also he is lauding the Spurs for playing the team game. For the past four years he has stated repeatedly that you can't win with that style of ball. You need superstars to win. His thesis has been that the NBA will be dominated by Durant or James and that style of ball will serve to place you in basketball hell.

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and those who think there is no scorn for Wade haven't been listening

He did to Chicago what James did to Cleveland.

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Yikes! Hitler wasn't available for comparison?
Aren't you one of the "Donald Sterling was wronged" guys, or is your trolling taking a break?


Yes I genuinely believe the NBA is wrong for taking his team because of words. Why? Because they ignored his discriminatory actions for years. Please give up the trolling thing. What you posted was extremely silly.

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and those who think there is no scorn for Wade haven't been listening

He did to Chicago what James did to Cleveland.


He was a winner before and no one questions his will to win. By taking a backseat to LeBron he gets less criticism.

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Besides the obvious penis-ness, why did Dan jump down the guy's throat who made the Kanye West comment? I wasn't listening until then.


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Nas, your non-trolling is making your trolling seem like a genius.

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The decision was orchaestrated by ESPN and the celebration by the Miami Heat brass. Bosh and Wade both participated in it though he is the only one criticized. I have had issues with Lebron James being overrated as a basketball player. I have not gotten into the other stuff because it doesn't really interest me. I don't think he is a douche though. Public relations wise he has made mistakes along the way. The comment about go back to your miserable lives is an example. When I think of true douchebags I think of miserable day in day out jerks every time you see them on television they are having a bad day. He doesn't strike me as that guy.
It feels like I could cite 100 reasons why and you'd say "Everyone has bad days". Well, Donald Sterling had bad days too.

You got your answer. If you can explain away those reasons, and many other examples besides those that just came from the top of my head then go ahead.


This whole thing is utterly stupid. Michael Jordan has probably been shown to be far more of a douche than Lebron James has ever been. And not all of it has come in the age of social media either. There were some things that he did during his playing career that were common knowledge and it still didn't prevent any of the moralist such as yourself from rooting for him If he played in a Bulls uniform today people in Chicago would still root for him. The comment comparing Lebron James to Donald Sterling is also stupid. It is what is known in the logic game as a false equivalency


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Nas, your non-trolling is making your trolling seem like a genius.


So LeBron should be compared to Sterling?

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Nas, your non-trolling is making your trolling seem like a genius.


So LeBron should be compared to Sterling?
No, and he wasn't.

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Nas, your non-trolling is making your trolling seem like a genius.


So LeBron should be compared to Sterling?


Absurd. You're smarter than that (seriously). It was a comparison of principle.

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The decision was orchaestrated by ESPN and the celebration by the Miami Heat brass. Bosh and Wade both participated in it though he is the only one criticized. I have had issues with Lebron James being overrated as a basketball player. I have not gotten into the other stuff because it doesn't really interest me. I don't think he is a douche though. Public relations wise he has made mistakes along the way. The comment about go back to your miserable lives is an example. When I think of true douchebags I think of miserable day in day out jerks every time you see them on television they are having a bad day. He doesn't strike me as that guy.
It feels like I could cite 100 reasons why and you'd say "Everyone has bad days". Well, Donald Sterling had bad days too.

You got your answer. If you can explain away those reasons, and many other examples besides those that just came from the top of my head then go ahead.



There is a fundamental inability to reason on your part. To take things out of context appears to be par for the course with you. I never said everyone has bad days those are your words. What I did state is that there are certainly athletes who appear to always be having a bad day. THere is always a permanent scowl on their face and whenever they are interviewed they come across as surly. You compared Lebron James to Donald Sterling that is a bit overboard don't you think. I forgot about the Dirk Nowitzki thing. That was low class. I am not a Lebron James defender. I have always thought and still think he is overrated as a basketball player. I don't want to see him on the Bulls either. I think they can make a serious run without adding him to the team. Bernstein will make that stupid argument that they cannot win anything unless they add him I don't believe that. They need another star player and it will depend on what they give up to get him. In that conference they can most certainly make a run.

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So LeBron should be compared to Sterling?


Absurd. You're smarter than that (seriously). It was a comparison of principle.


I understood why he did it but he didn't need to go to an extreme to make his point.

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There is a fundamental inability to reason on your part. To take things out of context appears to be par for the course with you. I never said everyone has bad days those are your words. What I did state is that there are certainly athletes who appear to always be having a bad day. THere is always a permanent scowl on their face and whenever they are interviewed they come across as surly.
Fine replace it with "Everyone makes mistakes" and the point is still just as valid.
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You compared Lebron James to Donald Sterling that is a bit overboard don't you think.
It was not a comparison of the two people.

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I forgot about the Dirk Nowitzki thing. That was low class. I am not a Lebron James defender.
No, you just refuse to accept any answer as to why people wouldn't like him. Just move on. I think he's a douche. That's it. You obviously don't.

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I wouldn't doubt that there are a few here who could label Tim Duncan negatively, if they gave a moment's interest.

What strikes me about the past two columns by the Señor Columnist is that in two balky stabs he proves he really knows little about the game, and isn't really sure of his convictions. The Spurs won by playing a superior brand of team ball in a team sport. The Señor Columnist proclaims that the local team should be more like the champions. The next column has him running back to the other side of the yard, the game's greatest player is worth sacrificing any notion of team in order to acquire him. The irony of this is that the champions built their team with a conservative and steady approach, holding onto their own and acquiring talent that would fit them best. They go 7 years between championships with essentially a fixed core and the timely maturation of new additions.

The Bulls are built and operate in a similar fashion as the Spurs: an emphasis on the sum of their parts, a coaching emphasis on tenacious defense, and a blue collar ethic. Its why I laughed at the "Be Like The Spurs" column because in so many aspects that is exactly how the Bulls are trying to be. The latter column has a critical flaw so immense that it belies the author's basketball ignorance. Lebron James may be the best player in the game, but his presence on a team doesn't guarantee winning. James is beatable and has been beaten, again.

That is precisely my issue with the Bernstein article. It displays an actual lack of knowledge about the game itself. He is arguing that acquiring Lebron James at all costs should be the ultimate goal of the Bulls when at all costs is precisely what is costing the Heat right now. He is continuing to make the argument that Lebron James and only Lebron can win a championship even as Lebron James just got his ass handed to him. He is criticizing the Heat for not having enough around him but the reason that they can't put enough around him is because they are paying a guy $20 million a year that is no longer a $20 million a year player. Also he is lauding the Spurs for playing the team game. For the past four years he has stated repeatedly that you can't win with that style of ball. You need superstars to win. His thesis has been that the NBA will be dominated by Durant or James and that style of ball will serve to place you in basketball hell.


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for any CBS/score/marketing people out there reading this: i wanna say that not too long ago (a 2-3/+ years?) b&b was appointment radio for me as i always wanted to hear what dan and terry thought about [chicago/sports event X] that i had just seen and wondered how it was going over with "my guys" in the industry.

but now after years of taking bold stances against child porn, raging against BIGOTRY, and all kinds of social justice alongside a veritable paradigm shift from saying what they think to saying what we need to think, it's almost an afterthought that this show is on. whereas i used to look forward to b&b at whatever given time in my day (i seem to remember they were 8-12, then 10-2 (ergo high noon in these first two shifts) and then later 2-6 and even later 1-6..... but now it's just kind of like "awww jesus do i need to tune in and have dan tell me what i ought to believe lest i be called some sort of [peJORRative] for not agreeing with the proper narrative???"

maybe it's just a product of me getting older (as the "glory days" were in my lower-mid 20s and the FOTS era started in my late 20s (with the demise of NORT.... #Rosemont) and now it's continued evolving into whatever you call the once "fun gay bad and weird" outpost in a sea of meatballism.

i mean this phenomenon is endemic to media/music/arts as a whole: when any plucky outsider/s eventually taste success by being adjacent to the system they often ridicule as they come up, their success and later them themselves eventually get embraced by "the system" or "the establishment" and then after a couple'a proper contracts and a change in marketing focus they become "the establishment" and that's often accompanied by a chance in ethos because once anyone gets a taste of serious $$$ (and their original success allowed them a platform to start and build a family, which becomes top priority as procuring maximum $$$ to support a lifestyle their original success afforded them becomes paramount) they will do anything in their power to hold on to it.... so in this case dan bernstein has become a warrior of the powers that be / the status quo, taking precious time out of all of our days to occasionally let us know that, hey don't be a numbnuts go get your kids vaccinated because THE. SCIENCE IS. IN. REALLY. SMART. PEOPLE. HAVE. SPOKEN. and etc etc

and when that happens it's easy to lose sight of that fact that i originally started listening to the fun bad gay little outpost that could because i needed daily escapism from the banalities of my day-to-day-life. and when the show itself becomes some sort of a big billboard for the establishment/status-quo/powers-that-be.... yeah i understand dan and the family have gotta eat.... but there comes a point where his whole schtick wears thin because i feel like in the year of someone else's lord 2014 if i turn on b&b i'm going to be yelled at and chastised because i possibly might not believe what THE. REALLY. SMART. PERSON. ON. THE. RADIO. tells me that i need to believe, and when that combines with the whole FOTStein phenomenon.... yeah, it's a rough listen.

so basically i've gone from having this show be appointment radio to something i might listen to only because i want fuel to have something to bitch about here. and i'm aware of the dave kaplan paradigm ("thanks for listening/watching" to any criticism cuz in the end it doesnt matter if i like you, only if i consume you) but still.... man.. is it too late to tell dan to chill out and embrace the overall triviality of the show that existed 10 years ago? can dan pretend he isn't the flagship face-of-the-station (FOTS) and therefore he needs to do REALLY. IMPORTANT. RADIO. and gentrify our minds in terms of how we consume not just sports but also society/reality as a whole?

i think if dan realized that he wasn't the be-all/end-all of his flock's cultural gatekeeping he'd perhaps embrace the hilarity of doing what he does for a very nice living.... cuz dan used to have his head screwed on right with the perspective that he had a totally bullshit job doing funny trivial stuff that was a distraction from the gravity/importance of real life for ~4hrs a day... and now that he sees his increased relevance/omnipresence as the means to upgrade his logos to embracing social justice and "making a difference" despite having a trivial job and all that.... well, it's just not the fun escape that it used to be. and i dont need amattacola to tell me that if i dont like the status quo PTFB, that is if i dont disagree outright in which case i need to listen twice as much and 10 times more closely because by paying 100% total undivided attention to their preaching i'll realize their unequivocal correctness on everything because THERE. IS.. NO ARGUMENT/DEBATE. --- REALLY. SMART. PEOPLE. HAVE. SPOKEN.

the weight/gravity of that drive in bernstein to gentrify his listeners is the part that's off-putting.... i want someone whose ideal is to entertain me, not gentrify me... cuz if i needed to be gentrified i'd go listen to hugh hewitt or whoever that preachy bible thumper is on late/weekends on 560AM. if i want fun/bad/gay/etc sports with a touch of quasi-sports-intellectualism, i'd ideally turn to bernstein.... however i'm convinced that he's shit in 2014 because the subject matter of outkast's great song "roses" is lost on him and that sucks because.... shit, i wanna love this show and be one of its champions... but it's hard to do when dan is no longer the radio hero i had because he has a lot of important work to do as the FOTS.

taht said, sorry for the blather CSFMB massive.... you can go back to tossing me bouquets when 9/10 of my next posts are 200 characters or less (because by doing that you're basically telling me that my ideal course of action is shutting the fuck up (and being more like you =))

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I understood why he did it but he didn't need to go to an extreme to make his point.
It being extreme was the point.

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I have a strong preference to win with our guys. That is what made the Blackhawks so entertaining is that Toews, Kane, Seabs, Keith were ours although one would argue Sharp and Hossa were not. But I think you get my point. It is the same reason I like the Cubs plan.
Isn't the Cubs plan to splurge on big name free agents once they feel they're ready to contend?


I believe so, but the core guys will be home grown. It'll be easy to cheer for Kris Bryant.
So if the Bulls added LBJ to a homegrown core of Rose, Taj, Butler & Noah (assuming it was financially feasible) you would be on board?

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Aren't these two dolts the same guys who yell at callers for having a trade idea? That they don't waste their precious radio air time speculating? Yet, here they are spending the better part of a 5 hour show speculating what the Bulls would be like with Lebron.

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the weight/gravity of that drive in bernstein to gentrify his listeners is the part that's off-putting.... i want someone whose ideal is to entertain me, not gentrify me... cuz if i needed to be gentrified i'd go listen to hugh hewitt or whoever that preachy bible thumper is on late/weekends on 560AM. if i want fun/bad/gay/etc sports with a touch of quasi-sports-intellectualism, i'd ideally turn to bernstein.... however i'm convinced that he's shit in 2014 because the subject matter of outkast's great song "roses" is lost on him and that sucks because.... shit, i wanna love this show and be one of its champions... but it's hard to do when dan is no longer the radio hero i had because he has a lot of important work to do as the FOTS.


The funnyman who isn't funny has a problem particularly when he is trying to be serious, the expectation of a poor punchline hangs so prevalently that when delivered it diminishes much of the gravity of being serious, and thus further erodes said gravitas. Conversely, the self anointed serious/smart person who announces himself as being such is not just hampered by attempts at being humorous, but has to make sure that such attempts are properly executed and done so without compromising his previously espoused smart stances.

The humor for some (myself included) is chronicling when he is in error, or flat out wrong. You don't have to listen long or even that often, and there are those who keep a running tally (like several topics on this board). Sadly (and in a lot of ways like WYC), catching him in error is no longer a novelty and listening to him continually trying to reshape the debate to where he is no longer incorrect has become both tedious and boring.

One more thing that he is incorrect about is who is his real audience. He may want to fool himself into believing that it is the advertisers that matter most and that listeners can PTFB if they don't like it. But when the sales guys are closing the deal it is us listeners that are cited as the reason the decision to do business with CBS radio is the smart decision. When we listeners are no longer enthused about his product it won't be the advertisers who will be the last to know. The really smart are rarely the last to know a situation.

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Bernsie just got new paper. He does not give a shit. I assume then that Mitch/Rod are fine with him. We may be missing something but if I gauge Bernsie right and ratings dump and he gets canned he won't care. He will collect his money until the next gig.

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Aren't you one of the "Donald Sterling was wronged" guys, or is your trolling taking a break?


Yes I genuinely believe the NBA is wrong for taking his team because of words. Why? Because they ignored his discriminatory actions for years. Please give up the trolling thing. What you posted was extremely silly.

BRick's not getting off to a good start on his 2 years of not being a jackass.

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I am not a Lebron James defender. I have always thought and still think he is overrated as a basketball player. I don't want to see him on the Bulls either.

I guess I'd have to know what your definition of over-rated is. Do you not think he is currently the best player in the NBA? Secondarily, why don't you want to see him on the Bulls?

(Note: for the record, I loved watching the Heat lose and am not a member of the LBJ ALS. However, to not recognize the fact that he is an elite player seems a tad bit absurd. And as a Bulls fan, I would welcome him with open arms).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:28 pm 
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I wouldn't doubt that there are a few here who could label Tim Duncan negatively, if they gave a moment's interest.

What strikes me about the past two columns by the Señor Columnist is that in two balky stabs he proves he really knows little about the game, and isn't really sure of his convictions. The Spurs won by playing a superior brand of team ball in a team sport. The Señor Columnist proclaims that the local team should be more like the champions. The next column has him running back to the other side of the yard, the game's greatest player is worth sacrificing any notion of team in order to acquire him. The irony of this is that the champions built their team with a conservative and steady approach, holding onto their own and acquiring talent that would fit them best. They go 7 years between championships with essentially a fixed core and the timely maturation of new additions.

The Bulls are built and operate in a similar fashion as the Spurs: an emphasis on the sum of their parts, a coaching emphasis on tenacious defense, and a blue collar ethic. Its why I laughed at the "Be Like The Spurs" column because in so many aspects that is exactly how the Bulls are trying to be. The latter column has a critical flaw so immense that it belies the author's basketball ignorance. Lebron James may be the best player in the game, but his presence on a team doesn't guarantee winning. James is beatable and has been beaten, again.

I forget the name of the long time "Monsters" listener who once expressed that "the Cubs don't have to get that much better, just let the division come back to them." The Bulls, as with most other teams in the eastern conference, don't have to get that much better, they just have to let the Heat inevitably slide back to them. It could easily be argued that said slide now has inertia, and it would be easier to add the final piece to what teams have been building towards as opposed to blowing it all up to get a player who's presence cannot guarantee a championship.

Finally, what makes Chicago so attractive? The list of what makes Chicago appealing by the Señor Columnist is woefully short, both in comparison to Miami as well as most other realistic suitors. The statue on the east side of the United Center is too big and too much to ignore, and would then put on James even more unrealistic expectations. Short of winning them all in his years here he'd still be considered a douchebag by some, possibly by even those who thought that of Jordan before the statue was erected.



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