It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:54 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 52 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:40 pm
Posts: 16489
pizza_Place: Boni Vino
Curious Hair wrote:
They'll never miss a chance to shit on the Blackhawks. The White Sox' bad ratings took money out of Senor's paycheck and he doesn't hit them this hard or this often.


He did take a swipe at the Sox yesterday by going over a ranking of top prospects by some obscure system (Cato Plus?) that no one has heard of, and concluding that he found it "interesting" that the Cubs' prospects were generally ranked higher than the highly touted Sox players recently acquired.

_________________
To IkeSouth, bigfan wrote:
Are you stoned or pissed off, or both, when you create these postings?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:47 pm
Posts: 13380
Location: The far western part of south east North Dakota
pizza_Place: Boboli
To be fair (this was the 5 minutes I listened for yesterday), Bernstein said that Bryant/Rizzo had the potential to be greater than Toews/Kane, but didn't just anoint them already.

An agreed on the Keith impression. That was pretty hilarious!

_________________
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I smell a bit....


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:51 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:46 pm
Posts: 33815
pizza_Place: Gioacchino's
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:00 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:24 pm
Posts: 17217
pizza_Place: Pequods
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

He's just a butthurt twat who hates the sport because the Hawks success means fewer people are paying attention to his beloved NBA in Chicago.

_________________
“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22544
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

He's just a butthurt twat who hates the sport because the Hawks success means fewer people are paying attention to his beloved NBA in Chicago.


So really, just Bizzaro Dan McNeil.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:32 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22544
pizza_Place: Giordano's
Jaw Breaker wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
They'll never miss a chance to shit on the Blackhawks. The White Sox' bad ratings took money out of Senor's paycheck and he doesn't hit them this hard or this often.


He did take a swipe at the Sox yesterday by going over a ranking of top prospects by some obscure system (Cato Plus?) that no one has heard of, and concluding that he found it "interesting" that the Cubs' prospects were generally ranked higher than the highly touted Sox players recently acquired.


I'm guessing he was talking about KATOH+, a FanGraphs creation that incorporates 20-80 scouting reports and minor league stats to create a 6-year projection of WAR, which projection is used to rank prospects in a traditional Top-100 fashion. From what I've read it appears fairly accurate.

But if Dan's takeaway is that the Cubs' remaining prospects are better than what the Sox have, his trolling game has gotten incredibly weak.

Both teams have 6 players each on this year's KATOH+ Top-100 list, but the total projected WAR for Sox prospects is 43.4, and only 33.7 for the Cubs. You would have to ignore arguably the best prospect in baseball (Moncada, 13.8 WAR projection through 6 seasons) in order for the totals to be comparable. If you ignored the clear-cut top prospect of both teams, the Sox would still lead by almost 6 whole WAR.

The notion that the Cubs' prospects are generally ranked higher than those acquired by the Sox is embarrassingly false.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/katohs-2 ... prospects/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:44 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:46 pm
Posts: 22544
pizza_Place: Giordano's
The guy who assembled the list admits that at least one of the Cubs' prospects is ranked higher than he should be:

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55959
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

I feel like we've broken this down a few times but basically it comes down to regarding hockey fans as socioeconomically inferior to basketball fans and resenting how well McDonough got members of the media to act as his public relations firm.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 92083
Location: To the left of my post
Curious Hair wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

I feel like we've broken this down a few times but basically it comes down to regarding hockey fans as socioeconomically inferior to basketball fans and resenting how well McDonough got members of the media to act as his public relations firm.
Some hockey people can be annoying too. Then again, he basically gets his information from an annoying hockey person so that probably isn't it.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40650
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Curious Hair wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

I feel like we've broken this down a few times but basically it comes down to regarding hockey fans as socioeconomically inferior to basketball fans and resenting how well McDonough got members of the media to act as his public relations firm.


That is odd. He certainly can't think the people buying the tickets are lower than NBA fans. This lower bowl tix are awfully costly. He simply just thinks people with sweaters might as well be wearing confederate flags. Bernsie is lazy and just does not want to invest in knowing hockey.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:24 pm
Posts: 17217
pizza_Place: Pequods
pittmike wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
Why does Bernstein not like the Blackhawks? Weren't they nothing but super duper nice to him?

I feel like we've broken this down a few times but basically it comes down to regarding hockey fans as socioeconomically inferior to basketball fans and resenting how well McDonough got members of the media to act as his public relations firm.


That is odd. He certainly can't think the people buying the tickets are lower than NBA fans. This lower bowl tix are awfully costly. He simply just thinks people with sweaters might as well be wearing confederate flags. Bernsie is lazy and just does not want to invest in knowing hockey.

I can say that market research has found that out of the 4 major sports leagues in the US, NHL fans are the most affluent. Unless this is rooted in Dan hating rich white people, which makes sense.

_________________
“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55959
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Hockey has never belonged to the Jewish community the way baseball and basketball have. I thought it went without saying.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:08 pm
Posts: 42
pizza_Place: Oak Room
Curious Hair wrote:
Hockey has never belonged to the Jewish community the way baseball and basketball have. I thought it went without saying.



Shlomo don't skate!

_________________
Don't shrug, genius. I'm blind.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:43 pm
Posts: 18493
Location: end of lonely street
pizza_Place: Obbies
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It was a dumb thing to say. If they stopped playing today Toews and Kane are Hall of Famers. Bryant and Rizzo are guys who had a couple good years. It would be like if Goff and bernstein were on the radio in 1964 and they started saying Pete Ward/Gary Peters were better than Hull/Mikita.

.... I gotta think about that one

_________________
I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Curious Hair wrote:
Hockey has never belonged to the Jewish community the way baseball and basketball have. I thought it went without saying.


:lol:

Come on. Do you really think people sit around hypothesizing about what sports the Jewish community has embraced?

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55959
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
No, which is my point. Everyone knows what Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg meant to legions of kids growing up (except, oddly enough, for Senor, who couldn't understand for the life of him why Asian kids might get jazzed about Jeremy Lin). It's not that the NHL was ever overtly antisemitic, just that hockey never lined up with early/mid-20th century Jewish American culture.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Curious Hair wrote:
No, which is my point. Everyone knows what Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg meant to legions of kids growing up (except, oddly enough, for Senor, who couldn't understand for the life of him why Asian kids might get jazzed about Jeremy Lin). It's not that the NHL was ever overtly antisemitic, just that hockey never lined up with early/mid-20th century Jewish American culture.


That's probably true, and I have no reason to believe you're making it up. It's just that you said it "goes without saying," and MANY of us who didn't grow up in urban areas with a plethora of da' jews would have no idea that that is some sort of cultural "thing."

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 pm
Posts: 40650
Location: Everywhere
pizza_Place: giordanos
Leash all you have to do is look at Brooklyn in the 50's. Knicks and Dodgers were king. I always assumed that had something to do with a lot of Jewish being in coaching and announcing basketball. As for baseball think Reinsdorf.

_________________
Elections have consequences.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55959
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
You can play baseball and basketball with relative ease in cramped northeastern cities. Hockey, less so. Brothers don't like hockey either!

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Honestly, I always just assumed Jewish kids balanced their parents' checkbooks for fun.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:09 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:00 am
Posts: 79560
Location: Ravenswood Manor
pizza_Place: Pete's
leashyourkids wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
No, which is my point. Everyone knows what Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg meant to legions of kids growing up (except, oddly enough, for Senor, who couldn't understand for the life of him why Asian kids might get jazzed about Jeremy Lin). It's not that the NHL was ever overtly antisemitic, just that hockey never lined up with early/mid-20th century Jewish American culture.


That's probably true, and I have no reason to believe you're making it up. It's just that you said it "goes without saying," and MANY of us who didn't grow up in urban areas with a plethora of da' jews would have no idea that that is some sort of cultural "thing."


BRick runs into seven trannies at Walmart each week but leash has never met a Jew.

_________________
Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:25 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:56 am
Posts: 32234
Location: A sterile, homogeneous suburb
pizza_Place: Pizza Cucina
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
No, which is my point. Everyone knows what Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg meant to legions of kids growing up (except, oddly enough, for Senor, who couldn't understand for the life of him why Asian kids might get jazzed about Jeremy Lin). It's not that the NHL was ever overtly antisemitic, just that hockey never lined up with early/mid-20th century Jewish American culture.


That's probably true, and I have no reason to believe you're making it up. It's just that you said it "goes without saying," and MANY of us who didn't grow up in urban areas with a plethora of da' jews would have no idea that that is some sort of cultural "thing."


BRick runs into seven trannies at Walmart each week but leash has never met a Jew.


Well, neither of us is running into Jews at Wal-Mart, that's for sure.

_________________
Curious Hair wrote:
I'm a big dumb shitlib baby


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 52 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 48 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group