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WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

Frankly, I think saying he lost isn't accurate (if for no other reason than he gets exposure now and potentially later with another go at this fella).

Rather, I'd characterize it as he tried to use a driver full-swing to sink a 3' putt ... even if he lacked the skill to make what seemed to be a 'gimmee', he should've had the sense to use a different approach ... any other approach ... than what he elected to go with ... which, if I were looking to defame him I would now be able to argue that he's more interested in his own media exposure rather than some high moral ground ... I don't think that's necessarily true but, as I say, the argument is not difficult to craft now because of his missteps this afternoon.

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WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

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WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

Frankly, I think saying he lost isn't accurate (if for no other reason than he gets exposure now and potentially later with another go at this fella).

Rather, I'd characterize it as he tried to use a driver full-swing to sink a 3' putt ... even if he lacked the skill to make what seemed to be a 'gimmee', he should've had the sense to use a different approach ... any other approach ... than what he elected to go with ... which, if I were looking to defame him I would now be able to argue that he's more interested in his own media exposure rather than some high moral ground ... I don't think that's necessarily true but, as I say, the argument is not difficult to craft now because of his missteps this afternoon.



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So what happened today?

I heard the update boy tell people they need to listen to an interview of a PSU guy that Bernstein did. Who was it? I was half listening and didn't catch his title.


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You know, to be fair, I know Bernstein never believes anybody that has their name ever uttered with this story.

But, Schiano is implicated by a guy who said another guy told him that Schiano told the 2nd guy something. It isn't exactly a recorded confession from Schiano.


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So what happened today?

I heard the update boy tell people they need to listen to an interview of a PSU guy that Bernstein did. Who was it? I was half listening and didn't catch his title.


WHY. CAN'T. I. GET. AN. ANSWER?


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So what happened today?

I heard the update boy tell people they need to listen to an interview of a PSU guy that Bernstein did. Who was it? I was half listening and didn't catch his title.


WHY. CAN'T. I. GET. AN. ANSWER?


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So what happened today?

I heard the update boy tell people they need to listen to an interview of a PSU guy that Bernstein did. Who was it? I was half listening and didn't catch his title.


WHY. CAN'T. I. GET. AN. ANSWER?


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Bastards. Sometimes my simple questions should just be answered. Even if you hate me.


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Bastards. Sometimes my simple questions should just be answered. Even if you hate me.


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"I have no reason to not believe a victim"

In the Penn State case this is the right view given all the overwhelming evidence. However, there's zero doubt Dan bring this mindset to every crime involving a victim and accused perpetrator.


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Wow, bringing in his personal life is horrible.

So shady.


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Bernstein leads off with an incredibly leading question, letting Lubrano know right off the bat how things are going to go down. He lost any chance at getting anything with that first "question". His insistence on trying to go for the jugular again with the second question (repeated 3 times, "do you think the victim is lying?") is amateur-hour on display. Bernstein saw his chance to play big-boy lawyer with a pariah he in large part created, and dribbled it down his leg like he was auditioning for a Law & Order role.


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5 minutes in, and Bernstein is really showing his ass trying to treat Lubrano like any other Penn State caller, like Lubrano doesn't know that calling someone a liar is actionable. Also telling that Bernstein had to hide the fact that all this new information is from a deposition, not sworn testimony in front of a court. His claims of "perjury" are completely unfounded. Jon Doe's lawyer would never get away with such leading and presumptive questions on direct.


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billypootons wrote:
WOW BERNSTEIN LOSING an argument? must listen podcast there.

Frankly, I think saying he lost isn't accurate (if for no other reason than he gets exposure now and potentially later with another go at this fella).

Rather, I'd characterize it as he tried to use a driver full-swing to sink a 3' putt ... even if he lacked the skill to make what seemed to be a 'gimmee', he should've had the sense to use a different approach ... any other approach ... than what he elected to go with ... which, if I were looking to defame him I would now be able to argue that he's more interested in his own media exposure rather than some high moral ground ... I don't think that's necessarily true but, as I say, the argument is not difficult to craft now because of his missteps this afternoon.



You didn't think this before today?

I don't now nor did I previously ... which I already indicated.

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Bernstein brought up emails sent to him by Lubrano's ex-wife talking about their marriage and personal relationships. What a piece of shit.


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Wow. Just listened to it. Both Bernstein and the trustee are unhinged, insane people.

Bernstein: Your wife left you over this Joe Pa shit (Paraphrasing)

Trustee: Where did you hear that?

Bernstein: From an email she sent me.

Trustee: I don't believe you.

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Rozner just kicked his heels up during that interview. He got maybe 2 questions in cuz he wanted people to know he was there. Basically repeating Dan's questions. But Bernstein dominated that 15 minute interview.

This was Dan's finest on air moment...in Dan's mind.


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Wow. Just listened to it. Both Bernstein and the trustee are unhinged, insane people.


Of the two, Lubrano seemed to have his shit together better than Bernstein. Danny had nothing to say about the difference between testimony given at a deposition, and testimony given in open court, McQueary's changing testimony, and the uncorroborated 3rd-hand words of someone not being deposed serving as evidence of coaches going to Paterno.

Berstein's trump cards were asking directly whether Lubrano thought the victims were liars (an answer he should've known he wouldn't get) and telling Lubrano that his wife was emailing radio personalities about their marriage falling apart. Neither of them were very effective, and all Bernsie and Rozner had left was "b-but, muh sworn, testimony".


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The ex-wife e-mail was lowest of the low. I couldn't believe he brought that on-air.


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What's this ex wife thing now?

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Bastards. Sometimes my simple questions should just be answered. Even if you hate me.


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What's this ex wife thing now?


Bernstein was going on one of his meandering, leading questions about why Lubrano was so invested in clearing Paterno's name, and he said something like "you became so unhinged in your quest that even your wife left you..." at which point Lubrano interrupted and said he was going to hang up if all Bernstein had left was personal attacks, saying his wasn't unhinged or deranged, to which Bernstein replied "that's not what your wife said when she emailed me".

Turns out that was Bernstein's source for a bunch of the goings-on in the Penn State BoT: an email address claiming to be Lubrano's wife/ex-wife.


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The ex-wife e-mail was lowest of the low. I couldn't believe he brought that on-air.


Bringing that up was absolute trash.


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What's this ex wife thing now?


Bernstein was going on one of his meandering, leading questions about why Lubrano was so invested in clearing Paterno's name, and he said something like "you became so unhinged in your quest that even your wife left you..." at which point Lubrano interrupted and said he was going to hang up if all Bernstein had left was personal attacks, saying his wasn't unhinged or deranged, to which Bernstein replied "that's not what your wife said when she emailed me".

Turns out that was Bernstein's source for a bunch of the goings-on in the Penn State BoT: an email address claiming to be Lubrano's wife/ex-wife.


Wow. That's some fucked up stuff. No class at all.

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That is seriously sick to bring it to such a personal level on air.

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Wonder if Bernstein would bring up ICE GIRL to drinky if they got in an argument. Same thing. I believe he absolutely would.

Was a total dick move.


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Bernstein got rolled by Lubrano towards the end, there. When asked who specifically went to Paterno and said something about abuses, Bernstein shut is mouth and fell back to "well, the Washington Post and New York Times are saying..."


I'm just glad he didn't say "it's all over Twitter".

He won't be self aware enough going forward, but Danny can't ever go to his "tell.me.specifically.who.said.that." approach. If he does I hope the caller brings this up but I'm sure the volume on the caller would get turned down if he did (like it obviously was during this interview).

Danny came off sounding like a fool today but enough sycophants will give him "atta boy"s that he will feel he did the public a service. He will read a few emails he received in his somber voice thanking him on behalf of all child sex abuse victims. Like DT said he had a gimmie, but three putted. Maybe he's not as smart as he thinks he is.

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Rozner just kicked his heels up during that interview. He got maybe 2 questions in cuz he wanted people to know he was there. Basically repeating Dan's questions. But Bernstein dominated that 15 minute interview.

This was Dan's finest on air moment...in Dan's mind.



No, it was not.

He was reminded why he wasn't good enough to be a lawyer like his dad.

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I felt like Rozner wanted to have his voice heard to prove to Bernstein that he's against "Child Rape". Cuz, in their minds, they believe most people are for it. Fucking grand standing idiots.

But Rozner is trying out for Terry's job. So he's got be on board with Bernstein. That's why he repeated Bernstein's questions in his limited time.


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