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but that's another reason why Bernstein looks to be not of sound mind lmao , he would know this

or maybe that's what he wants us to think, that he's making a threat but it's not illegal, so he would have cover. Didn't work with One Step.


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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.


exactly, and I'm no legal expert (so on the same level of everyone here) but I don't think it's illegal to "doxx" when it's already public information

Even Elon Musk gets confused on this, and he owns a rocket company!

Oooh, the rare double strawman, at odds with itself: "it's not 'doxxing' to use publicly available information" and "it's not illegal to 'doxx' someone with publicly available information".

1. That is very much what "doxxing" is, and;

2. Nobody said it is.


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JORR wrote:
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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?


You can lie to yourself if you want but I'm 100% certain if it were Caller Bob or The Hawk who said "DO YOU WANT YOUR KIDS BROUGHT INTO THIS???" to bernstein you'd be calling them scumbags. But go ahead and defend this little fish-killing punk if you want.


they're arguing over whether Bernstein should be fired, not if Bernstein should be called a scumbag

since you feel the need to be part of the conversation, provide some valuable perspective as a mod: are you 100% certain in your hypothetical analogue that BRick would ask those two to be kicked off the board?


They're arguing over whether dan threatened his kids. He most certainly did. Whether anything would have come of said threat, I would say I highly doubt it. But if the shoe were on the other foot, i.e. someone said the same exact thing about dan's kids, dan and his board sycophants (you?) would be thundering about "CALLING THE PROPER AUTHORITIES!"


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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.


exactly, and I'm no legal expert (so on the same level of everyone here) but I don't think it's illegal to "doxx" when it's already public information

Even Elon Musk gets confused on this, and he owns a rocket company!

Oooh, the rare double strawman, at odds with itself: "it's not 'doxxing' to use publicly available information" and "it's not illegal to 'doxx' someone with publicly available information".

1. That is very much what "doxxing" is, and;

2. Nobody said it is.


Even if that is the accepted definition of doxxing (public or private information), it's only invoked here (and on X) in the context of it being a threat and/or illegal. Nobody cares if he was by-definition doxxing or not.


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Glad this is cleared up.

You can’t be threatening a guy’s (adult, I assume) children if that guy’s address is available on the Google.

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Dan merely said they would be "involved". It is you all who are assuming a MAGA chud's kids would want to distance themselves from him, ever think maybe they would think Dad's social media persona is normal and cool?


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Reared on the Score wrote:
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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.


exactly, and I'm no legal expert (so on the same level of everyone here) but I don't think it's illegal to "doxx" when it's already public information

Even Elon Musk gets confused on this, and he owns a rocket company!

Oooh, the rare double strawman, at odds with itself: "it's not 'doxxing' to use publicly available information" and "it's not illegal to 'doxx' someone with publicly available information".

1. That is very much what "doxxing" is, and;

2. Nobody said it is.


Even if that is the accepted definition of doxxing (public or private information), it's only invoked here (and on X) in the context of it being a threat and/or illegal. Nobody cares if he was by-definition doxxing or not.


What do you think dan was hoping would happen when he threatened- although you repeatedly say it wasn't a threat- to post the guy's address and/or other information? Was he going to do so as a service to Mr. & Mrs. Messenger and their children? Was he helping them? What was his point in suggesting he would do so?

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Reared on the Score wrote:
Dan merely said they would be "involved". It is you all who are assuming a MAGA chud's kids would want to distance themselves from him, ever think maybe they would think Dad's social media persona is normal and cool?



Just slightly more cool than a guy who posts pictures of himself holding a fish.

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Reared on the Score wrote:
Dan merely said they would be "involved". It is you all who are assuming a MAGA chud's kids would want to distance themselves from him, ever think maybe they would think Dad's social media persona is normal and cool?

Involved in what?

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What do you think dan was hoping would happen when he threatened- although you repeatedly say it wasn't a threat- to post the guy's address and/or other information? Was he going to do so as a service to Mr. & Mrs. Messenger and their children? Was he helping them? What was his point in suggesting he would do so?


I don't really know, as Dan admitted himself he was "set off" by the fish comment (lmao) and not being totally rational

But I think he was likely hoping that Mr. Mess. would apologize and he wouldn't do anything. And the fact that Mr. Mess. didn't apologize and Dan still didn't do anything lends more to that theory.


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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


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Where’s the threat?

Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.

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Brick wrote:
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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


Brick wrote:
Where’s the threat?

Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.



Maybe dan has a video of himself in a threesome with the Messengers. Who knows? But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.

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What do you think dan was hoping would happen when he threatened- although you repeatedly say it wasn't a threat- to post the guy's address and/or other information? Was he going to do so as a service to Mr. & Mrs. Messenger and their children? Was he helping them? What was his point in suggesting he would do so?


I don't really know, as Dan admitted himself he was "set off" by the fish comment (lmao) and not being totally rational

But I think he was likely hoping that Mr. Mess. would apologize and he wouldn't do anything. And the fact that Mr. Mess. didn't apologize and Dan still didn't do anything lends more to that theory.


For the record the guy's house number and town are in his profile along with multiple pictures of cars and license plates and he also said "I'm very transparent about where I live".

The kids thing is baffling. The best thing I can come up with is Dan was appealing to how embarrassed the kids might be if they found out their dad was in an asshole -off with local fish murderer Dan Bernstein and maybe that would compel Greg Messenger to apologize. But clearly they were all empty threats, nothing happened.

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Brick wrote:
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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


Brick wrote:
Where’s the threat?

Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.


Maybe Dan had the other four license plates and VIN numbers for Greg Messenger of Kildeer, IL's cars? Hope I didn't doxx him just now by typing in information from his twitter profile.

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Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.


not so much what was he going to do but what was the harm caused by it? a threat is required to have some harm associated

Like I said in the other thread, I think the 'harm' in the "I know where you work" bit is that he'd expose the guy's bosses to his odious social media account

but I don't know what harm was implied in revealing already public information. Mr. Mess. didn't either as he very quickly said he didn't care his address was already out there.

Dan McNeil explained best what "do you want your kids involved" meant, and it wasn't a direct threat to the Mess. kids but saying that by continuing in this he couldn't promise they wouldn't be collateral damage. "damage" of which I don't know...because they likely know their dad is a MAGA chud. And there isn't some Bernsie Army that can't be controlled that would mess this guy's life up to the point where it would 'involve' the kids.

the obvious toothlessness to this also is why he shouldn't be fired. It was clearly a shitty thing to attempt, and a stupid way to go about it, and he's already faced (in my opinion, overkill) consequences


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Brick wrote:
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Dan or Bernsie wrote:
I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


Brick wrote:
Where’s the threat?

Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.

Want your kids involved, did you learn anything at Purdue?

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You guys are getting all bogged down in definitions and legality and actual threats. What some of you fail to get is that it does not matter a bit what “this situation is”. It matters how it appears.

One Step decided it appears too bad for them. Audacy is still out but at least they think it appears bad enough to sideline him. The public to a large degree think it appears really bad for Bernsie to have done this.

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Maybe dan has a video of himself in a threesome with the Messengers. Who knows? But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.


JORR, you're a LibsOfTikTok superfan, right? Why should anyone take your thoughts on this matter seriously?


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Maybe dan has a video of himself in a threesome with the Messengers. Who knows? But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.


JORR, you're a LibsOfTikTok superfan, right? Why should anyone take your thoughts on this matter seriously?


I would venture to say that everyone demanding Dan get fired has the same ideology.

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You guys are getting all bogged down in definitions and legality and actual threats. What some of you fail to get is that it does not matter a bit what “this situation is”. It matters how it appears.

One Step decided it appears too bad for them. Audacy is still out but at least they think it appears bad enough to sideline him. The public to a large degree think it appears really bad for Bernsie to have done this.


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You guys are getting all bogged down in definitions and legality and actual threats. What some of you fail to get is that it does not matter a bit what “this situation is”. It matters how it appears.

One Step decided it appears too bad for them. Audacy is still out but at least they think it appears bad enough to sideline him. The public to a large degree think it appears really bad for Bernsie to have done this.


dang, maybe Beardown was right we did need another thread


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pittmike wrote:
You guys are getting all bogged down in definitions and legality and actual threats. What some of you fail to get is that it does not matter a bit what “this situation is”. It matters how it appears.

One Step decided it appears too bad for them. Audacy is still out but at least they think it appears bad enough to sideline him. The public to a large degree think it appears really bad for Bernsie to have done this.


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But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.
But, what if the threat was he was going to alert his kids on twitter to what his dad was saying. Yes, it's a threat. It also shows that a "threat" isn't really a big deal in that case.

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But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.
But, what if the threat was he was going to alert his kids on twitter to what his dad was saying. Yes, it's a threat. It also shows that a "threat" isn't really a big deal in that case.


both sets of kids (young adults) should tell their respective dads to either get off of twitter or just use it as read only. Posting your license plate and home address is something that should trigger a dementia screening and Bernstein clearly cannot emotionally handle being on there as Dan Bernstein, locally famous radio host.

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But it was obviously a threat. I don't know what else you could call it.
But, what if the threat was he was going to alert his kids on twitter to what his dad was saying. Yes, it's a threat. It also shows that a "threat" isn't really a big deal in that case.


both sets of kids (young adults) should tell their respective dads to either get off of twitter or just use it as read only. Posting your license plate and home address is something that should trigger a dementia screening and Bernstein clearly cannot emotionally handle being on there as Dan Bernstein, locally famous radio host.


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cant we agree that this is an extremely weak reason to fire Dan.... but if he gets fired that it means Audacy was looking for a way to get rid of Dan/trim payroll?


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cant we agree that this is an extremely weak reason to fire Dan.... but if he gets fired that it means Audacy was looking for a way to get rid of Dan/trim payroll?

Yeah, it's the same convenient-cost-cutting situation as Mac, except now there's the added valence of getting revenge in Donald Trump's America.

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


Brick wrote:
Where’s the threat?

Yet no one can tell me what the threat actually was. What was Bernstein going to do?

The public info being released was already public, this is the phrase public info.

Right. The info release was a separate point.

I’m not sure why Bernstein would talk up his enemy credentials immediately before bringing the Messenger children into the conversation. It would appear a statement of intent to inflict some type of hostile action upon the children, but he didn’t explicitly say threat, so I suppose we’ll never know.

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Wow there’s some world fucking class parsing and diminishing of what little Danny said to make him not seem like a bad guy here. Twitter legend Remo Williams gets into a spat with little Danny on Twitter, calls him a fucking asshole, challenges him to fight, tells him he knows where he lives and where he works ( obviously) threatens making that information public and asks if he wants his kids involved. I’m sure the very same people defending little Danny on this would be saying the same thing that what Remo said wasn’t that bad , wasn’t actually a threat , didn’t really bring his kids into it, where Bernstein lives is public info, etc . You guys are so full of shit it’s like you’re doing a bit .

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