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Author:  leashyourkids [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:54 pm ]
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Bernstein lecturing mouth breathers for not acknowledging the random nature of baseball playoffs. Says it's due to mental weakness.
#respect

Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:05 pm ]
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This is like bragging that Elmhurst Steve endorsed your side of the argument. Congratulations, I guess?

Author:  leashyourkids [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:07 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
This is like bragging that Elmhurst Steve endorsed your side of the argument. Congratulations, I guess?


We've discussed this for two days.

Author:  Rod [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:38 pm ]
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Playoffs are a crapshoot! Cubs are ready!

https://medium.com/sportspickle/cubs-ex ... .vp6lprp2n

Cubs excited about opportunity to be the most disappointing team in franchise history

CHICAGO — The Chicago Cubs led Major League Baseball with 103 wins this season, but the team knows its place in history will be determined by what it does in the postseason — and it’s that fact that has Cubs players and coaches excited about October.

“Baseball isn’t like other sports where you can just impose your will on lesser teams,” manager Joe Maddon said today. “We’ve talked about that as a team. Having the best record in the majors means nothing in the postseason. We have a 1-in-8 shot at winning the World Series, which is terrible odds. We’re almost definitely not going to win.”

But the always-upbeat Maddon says his team has already come to grips with its impending failure and is instead looking at the silver lining: that the 2016 Cubs will go down as the most disappointing Cubs team in 118 years of Cubs disappointment.

“Win or lose — and, again, it’s most definitely lose — we will be remembered forever,” said Maddon. “How can you not be excited by that? We will live on for all time. Even 118 years in the future when the Cubs still haven’t won a World Series, they’ll talk about this 2016 team, the team that won 103 games and was loaded throughout the roster, as the biggest letdown of all. The biggest letdown of all from a franchise that has some of the biggest failures in sports history. This team losing will make the Bartman year look like nothing. That team only won 88 games. They weren’t half as good as we are, which means we’ll be more than twice as disappointing. Chicago will never forget our names. This team will live on forever. Our names will be cursed long after we’re all dead and buried.”

First baseman Anthony Rizzo said he believes it will be for the best when the Cubs get eliminated.

“Do I want to win? Sure. Every baseball player wants to win the World Series,” he said. “But I worry about Cubs fans. They love us so much and I want what’s best for them. If we win, they’ll just become unbearable and obnoxious like Red Sox fans did in 2004. No, it’s probably best if we lose in the playoffs, and in the most painful way possible. It will let our fans keep their identity.”

As for Cubs fans who will remain positive about the team even when they lose this year due to the franchise’s young core of players, Maddon cautioned them that’s the wrong approach.

“There are no dynasties in baseball anymore,” said the manager. “This year could be our one shot. Or at least our best shot. We had a young core in Tampa and never won anything. The Royals won the World Series last year and didn’t even make the playoffs this year. You can’t count on the future, only the present. Which is why this year’s defeat will be so crushing.”

Author:  leashyourkids [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:58 pm ]
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Hell yeah!

Author:  IkeSouth [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:00 pm ]
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i just put $8k on the cubs. 1:8 odds means i can buy a new tesla

Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:07 pm ]
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/major-league-baseball-is-about-to-get-random/
(posted there yesterday afternoon)
tl;dr:

Tier A — The Powerhouses
Chicago Cubs (26 percent odds of winning the World Series)
Boston Red Sox (19 percent)
Los Angeles Dodgers (15 percent)

Tier B — The Good-But-Not-Great Division Winners
Cleveland Indians (8 percent)
Washington Nationals (8 percent)
Texas Rangers (8 percent)

Tier C — The Wild Cards
Toronto Blue Jays (6 percent)
Baltimore Orioles (4 percent)
New York Mets (3 percent)
San Francisco Giants (3 percent)

Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:14 pm ]
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Lay It Down is a great Ratt song.

Author:  City of Fools [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:31 pm ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/major-league-baseball-is-about-to-get-random/
(posted there yesterday afternoon)
tl;dr:

Tier A — The Powerhouses
Chicago Cubs (26 percent odds of winning the World Series)
Boston Red Sox (19 percent)
Los Angeles Dodgers (15 percent)

Tier B — The Good-But-Not-Great Division Winners
Cleveland Indians (8 percent)
Washington Nationals (8 percent)
Texas Rangers (8 percent)

Tier C — The Wild Cards
Toronto Blue Jays (6 percent)
Baltimore Orioles (4 percent)
New York Mets (3 percent)
San Francisco Giants (3 percent)

and the Giants win.

Author:  Rod [ Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:33 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/major-league-baseball-is-about-to-get-random/
(posted there yesterday afternoon)
tl;dr:

Tier A — The Powerhouses
Chicago Cubs (26 percent odds of winning the World Series)
Boston Red Sox (19 percent)
Los Angeles Dodgers (15 percent)

Tier B — The Good-But-Not-Great Division Winners
Cleveland Indians (8 percent)
Washington Nationals (8 percent)
Texas Rangers (8 percent)

Tier C — The Wild Cards
Toronto Blue Jays (6 percent)
Baltimore Orioles (4 percent)
New York Mets (3 percent)
San Francisco Giants (3 percent)

and the Giants win.


Nate Silver is having a brutal year.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:31 am ]
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leashyourkids wrote:
Bernstein lecturing mouth breathers for not acknowledging the random nature of baseball playoffs. Says it's due to mental weakness.
#respect


yeah obviously a tournament ends up deciding who wins the tournament, not who the best team in baseball is (which is why i think there should be more/added emphasis on finishing the season with the best record in the AL/NL/MVP. maybe give team with the best record in each league some kind of grandiose "Allan H. 'Bud' Selig Award (brought to you by FOX SPORTS: be sure to check out Skip+Shannon- UNDISPUTED on FS1 </LilWayne>)" and go out of your way to keep a running list of who "won" the AL/NL/etc...

AHEM.

...but i reckon this point we're way too far gone into "it's all about october" aka playoff/tournament hype to ever go back to the days where winning the pennant (before even the ALCS/NLCS) was "kind of really a PRETTY FUCKING BIG DEAL"

lol, what a fucking assclown. both bernstein and kasper, whoever you wanna apply it to here. they go out of their way to let you know (in a totally smarmy/smug/pedantic/condescending way, especially kasper) that, uh, they were totally right all along about THE PLAN(TM) being the bestest and (only? if not...) most awesomest way to build a champion/ship-caliber team.... but then on the eve of the playoffs starting when it's time for the best team in baseball to FINALLY put up or shut up (since MLB has evolved into going out of its way to tell you that IT'S ALL ABOUT OCTOBER(TM)), THAT is when our top cubbie ass-lickers/deification-paraders will step up and disclaim "lol the playoffs are a total 100% crapshoot" so that way they can have it both ways that 1) yeah they were totally correct about the cubs being the best team in baseball, but 2) if they lose they're not wrong... it's just that the playoffs are a crapshoot! [insert something about how this cubs team is going to be very very good for a very very long time here]

i swear to god man.... on a purely baseball level i wanna be able to revel in this "cubs thing" and enjoy it for what it is, especially since i was born and raised a cubs fan. but by the time the cubs got really good a lot of their fans and even more of their mouthpieces got so fucking annoying/irritating/condescending-to-me that i just can't help but sit back and cackle as i see connor gillaspie hit a HR that singlehandedly put the cubs into the worst possible matchup they can face this postseason (giants in a 5 game series... in an even #'d year!)

Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:36 am ]
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btw, if anyone sees that one of my posts has multiple paragraphs and therefore doesn't endeavor to read it: i wanna reiterate the best joke from the last post. if there was some kind of "Allan H. 'Bud' Selig Award" handed out to the teams with the best record in the AL/NL, it would be an award that in its name is sponsored by FOX SPORTS, which then would immediately mention that you should check out Skip+Shannon: UNDISPUTED on FS1, with </LilWayne> signifying that they got Lil Wayne to make the theme song for the show, which you'd know if you happened to watch anything sports/related on fox over the last month or so because they can't help but spam the fucking shit out of that show and constantly pop up Skip's face on your screen accompanied by Lil Wayne going NO MERCY! NO MERCY! NO MERCY! AND I WON'T BACK DOWN! in the background.

thank you / god bless / GO CUBS GO!

Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:21 am ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Lay It Down is a great Ratt song.

Image

ROUND AND ROUND

Author:  Juice's Lecture Notes [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:27 am ]
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I got in the car and got to hear an interesting part of Olin's weekly hit: Dan went into one of his long-form, exposition-laden "questions" about an article written concerning the political views of NFL players impacting team chemistry and friendships this election cycle, and he asked Olin if there was anything like that in his time in the Bears locker room.

Olin's response was that no, he would never stop being friends with a teammate because of their voting choices, and he began decrying the current political climate in which anyone that isn't staunchly in favor of Colin Kaepernick's actions or message is instantly branded a racist (brought it up a few times). He said players would actually talk to one another if one said something the other thought was odd or divisive, and that today it's just a rush to see who can call the other a racist first.

Bernstein was floored, definitely not the answer he was expecting, and I don't know if Olin realized he just fired a mighty big shot at Commodore Bernstein's fleet of SJW windsocks.

Author:  Chus [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:35 am ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I got in the car and got to hear an interesting part of Olin's weekly hit: Dan went into one of his long-form, exposition-laden "questions" about an article written concerning the political views of NFL players impacting team chemistry and friendships this election cycle, and he asked Olin if there was anything like that in his time in the Bears locker room.

Olin's response was that no, he would never stop being friends with a teammate because of their voting choices, and he began decrying the current political climate in which anyone that isn't staunchly in favor of Colin Kaepernick's actions or message is instantly branded a racist (brought it up a few times). He said players would actually talk to one another if one said something the other thought was odd or divisive, and that today it's just a rush to see who can call the other a racist first.

Bernstein was floored, definitely not the answer he was expecting, and I don't know if Olin realized he just fired a mighty big shot at Commodore Bernstein's fleet of SJW windsocks.


I caught the last minute of that as well. After Olin signed off, Rozner said the problem today was lack of communication. Too many people shout down those who disagree with them. Shots fired at Bernstein.

Author:  good dolphin [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:38 am ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I got in the car and got to hear an interesting part of Olin's weekly hit: Dan went into one of his long-form, exposition-laden "questions" about an article written concerning the political views of NFL players impacting team chemistry and friendships this election cycle, and he asked Olin if there was anything like that in his time in the Bears locker room.

Olin's response was that no, he would never stop being friends with a teammate because of their voting choices, and he began decrying the current political climate in which anyone that isn't staunchly in favor of Colin Kaepernick's actions or message is instantly branded a racist (brought it up a few times). He said players would actually talk to one another if one said something the other thought was odd or divisive, and that today it's just a rush to see who can call the other a racist first.

Bernstein was floored, definitely not the answer he was expecting, and I don't know if Olin realized he just fired a mighty big shot at Commodore Bernstein's fleet of SJW windsocks.


This happens frequently with player interviews. Dan asks a leading question and the player answers contrary to his preconceived idea.

He dummied up pretty quickly last year when Chris Sale told him he considered it the starting pitchers job to win the game.

Author:  Tad Queasy [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:57 am ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I got in the car and got to hear an interesting part of Olin's weekly hit: Dan went into one of his long-form, exposition-laden "questions" about an article written concerning the political views of NFL players impacting team chemistry and friendships this election cycle, and he asked Olin if there was anything like that in his time in the Bears locker room.

Olin's response was that no, he would never stop being friends with a teammate because of their voting choices, and he began decrying the current political climate in which anyone that isn't staunchly in favor of Colin Kaepernick's actions or message is instantly branded a racist (brought it up a few times). He said players would actually talk to one another if one said something the other thought was odd or divisive, and that today it's just a rush to see who can call the other a racist first.

Bernstein was floored, definitely not the answer he was expecting, and I don't know if Olin realized he just fired a mighty big shot at Commodore Bernstein's fleet of SJW windsocks.


I think Olin's comments are pretty reasonable.

During his playing days, wasn't Kreutz regarded as a jag by just about everyone at WSCR? Bad guy in the locker room, etc?

Author:  pittmike [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:11 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
I got in the car and got to hear an interesting part of Olin's weekly hit: Dan went into one of his long-form, exposition-laden "questions" about an article written concerning the political views of NFL players impacting team chemistry and friendships this election cycle, and he asked Olin if there was anything like that in his time in the Bears locker room.

Olin's response was that no, he would never stop being friends with a teammate because of their voting choices, and he began decrying the current political climate in which anyone that isn't staunchly in favor of Colin Kaepernick's actions or message is instantly branded a racist (brought it up a few times). He said players would actually talk to one another if one said something the other thought was odd or divisive, and that today it's just a rush to see who can call the other a racist first.

Bernstein was floored, definitely not the answer he was expecting, and I don't know if Olin realized he just fired a mighty big shot at Commodore Bernstein's fleet of SJW windsocks.


I think Olin's comments are pretty reasonable.

During his playing days, wasn't Kreutz regarded as a jag by just about everyone at WSCR? Bad guy in the locker room, etc?



Absolutely. Just another Score hypocrisy. If you listen closely you catch many athletes and coaches that come on do this to him. He usually can only do it with the hand jobs that come on that are his level of sports talk. Those are the other radio hosts and bloggers and some beat guys. It must feel good to them when Dan pushes their twitter handle. Hit circle jerk.

Someone should try to find radio spots around the coutry where the score guys act as their experts.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:16 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:

I think Olin's comments are pretty reasonable.

During his playing days, wasn't Kreutz regarded as a jag by just about everyone at WSCR? Bad guy in the locker room, etc?

Olin was a jag in a similar vein to Richie Icognito. He was an asshole but ultimately had your back if you were a quality teammate.

It's a startling type of leadership for media members because they're too infatuated and jerking it to Russell Wilson's style of phony ass leadership.

Author:  SpiralStairs [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:24 pm ]
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I thought it was pretty well established that everyone (outside of Elmhurst Steve types who view Russell Wilson as "one of the good ones") hates the guy.

Author:  Jbi11s [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:32 pm ]
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SpiralStairs wrote:
I thought it was pretty well established that everyone (outside of Elmhurst Steve types who view Russell Wilson as "one of the good ones") hates the guy.

Funny you should say this. About a year ago I was working on a contract where one of the "safety guys" who patrol the area for incidents and incident prevention actually was roommates on a house rental with a couple back up players on the Seahawks. He was a young dude who played college ball at Rice. Anyway, he would gossip about how the Seahawks all party real hard, and things like that. One thing that stuck with me tho was he said all the golden boy talk about Wilson is bullshit. Wilson parties, and he was def fucking Ciara before they were married.

Author:  Walt Williams Neck [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:12 pm ]
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You mean not a lot of

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Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:17 pm ]
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picked the Redsox 14:1, Bluejays 12:1, Giants 10:1, and Cubs 4:1, in February to win the WS.

Author:  DannyB [ Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:56 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Lay It Down is a great Ratt song.


Great riff. One of the better videos of the MTV era. Plus with scary clown relevance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O0qWa0R5NI

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