i finally read through the entire OTL piece... it reads like a piece that is not quite finished. It would appear Izzo and Dantonio likely exhibited poor judgment but there is no real proof (criminally/court wise i mean) provided in that article that either of the coaches did something abhorrent.... there's nothing in that piece that calls out Izzo or Dantonio by name only implied... many of the stories shared warrant further investagtion and it is very clear MSU Police and Athletic department did an abysmal job handling these accusations. If more info came out that clearly shows they were complicit in "covering up" accusations, it would not surprise me at all.

Also worth noting most of these basketball/football incidents occured pre-sandusky trial.... when I'd have to imagine every AD accross the country did their best to bury these type of accusations... defnitely not an excuse for putting the program ahead of people's lives though

Who really cares what this daego thinks? He's a nobody.

You also are a nobody. That hasn’t stopped you from exposing the world to your idiotic thoughts.

Just this message board.

Add John Feinstein to the B&G enemy list. In his cbs minute he said Izzo is the only one that can heal Michigan state.

Add John Feinstein to the B&G enemy list. In his cbs minute he said Izzo is the only one that can heal Michigan state.

It's like Penn State Radio all over again. Anyone who uses "we" or looks back on their college years with great fondness is a bad person who is incapable of raising doubts about the issues concerning the university in question, the plosive in "rape" is popped extra-hard, and journalists pushing one narrative cannot be doing anything wrong because of lawyers reviewing their work.

It's like Penn State Radio all over again. Anyone who uses "we" or looks back on their college years with great fondness is a bad person who is incapable of raising doubts about the issues concerning the university in question, the plosive in "rape" is popped extra-hard, and journalists pushing one narrative cannot be doing anything wrong because of lawyers reviewing their work.

I listened to Valenti on Mulley/Hanley. Never heard the guy before, but he seemed reasonable. Nothing is worse than a populous mob with a narrative run wild without ALL THE FACTS. Dan and Jason do this all the time so it is predictable on this as well. I will not listen till this is resolved.

Guessing they will voice the moral outrage and tell callers they are dumb/stupid if they try to give an opinion outside of their own.
If Izzo/Dantonio is PROVED to have done wrong, fire them. Until then, let all the FACTS come out.

And wasn't Valenti's major premise that it was irresponsible of OTL to present whatever issues there may be around Izzo et al. next to the Larry Nassar issue?

Listening to him speak, he seemed pissed that OTL and the report tried to impugn Izzo and Dantonio simply by presenting their separate issues alongside Nassar's unquestionable guilt and monstrosity, which I think is a decent point to bring up.

His main argument seemed to be "Yeah, sexual assault is horrible, and there were a lot of them by football and basketball players, but everyone knew it was happening!". That's remarkably stupid.

If they're that annoyed get him on and ask your tough questions and not replay the interview.

I didn't get that sense at all. What gave you that idea?

“I think it’s an absolute hit piece on Tom Izzo and Mark Dantonio and when you’re splicing in cuts of that vile, monstrous scumbag Larry Nassar and somehow now trying to draw conclusions by repackaging old news, things that were investigated, things that were handled. I’m sorry that’s not journalism, that’s TMZ," he said.