this seems to be getting lost and giving B and G fans their typical position of perceived intellectual superiority in the discussion of the show changes. It was almost entirely about tone and attitudinal shift towards their consumers.

It was almost entirely about tone and attitudinal shift towards their consumers.

That goes both ways, of course.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

Not mutually exclusive for me. It was about all that. In total, the show was not fun or entertaining.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

I never had the amount of distain for Boers that I did for Goff. I never liked Bernstein since he was the Bears reporter. Never understood his appeal.

At one point Jason chimed in enough on B&b that it was virtually a three-man booth. Sometimes you had drinky popping in as well and the show had a very loose goofy feel. Jason was pretty much universally beloved at that time.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

At one point Jason chimed in enough on B&b that it was virtually a three-man booth. Sometimes you had drinky popping in as well and the show had a very loose goofy feel. Jason was pretty much universally beloved at that time.

Thats BS, good dolphin. Boers and Bernstein told people to piss off for 17 years and it worked.

just as an example, how many times did we hear a caller in complete alignment with one of Dan's political thoughts expecting to receive praise only for Dan to turn it on the caller and still treat the person as a fool

Even those who agreed with them were treated with disdain. It started with openly stating they hated Bears Mondays and eventually devolved into hating any listener who made a call.

I think B&G combined to create the atmosphere around the show that instead of being in on the joke, The Listener was now the butt of it.

just as an example, how many times did we hear a caller in complete alignment with one of Dan's political thoughts expecting to receive praise only for Dan to turn it on the caller and still treat the person as a fool

Even those who agreed with them were treated with disdain. It started with openly stating they hated Bears Mondays and eventually devolved into hating any listener who made a call.

A great point. At some point, it transitioned from B&B + Callers vs random idiot to B&G vs all random idiot callers. I feel it started to fade to that even before it was officially B&G...sort of during the last days of Terry.

Yes, when Dan fully asserted himself after realizing Terry wasn't coming back for the Fun, Bad, Gay, Weird days of the show, he seems to have felt the need to set the foundation for the next chapter of his career, and settled squarely on Very. Serious. Woke. Radio.

Mitch allowing Terry to patch in his portion of the show via ISDN allowed Dan to exert his influence on the show more regularly, which set the stage for Penn State. After that success, Dan's transition was a fait accompli, with Terry's illness just hastening the arrival of what we ultimately saw in the B&G Bernstein.

It worked because of Terry. Terry could talk down to idiot callers without coming off as an elitists....he was a a blue collar(even though white collar by trade) old school dude from the southside.