I think Jordan's teammates always knew the score at least.

Yeah, of course they mentioned that as additional proof that LeBron doesn't have a supporting cast. Kevin Love was mentioned as an all-star and I could actually see Dan rolling his eyes through my radio.

Kevin Love is a token all star. He was a legit all star in Minnesota.

This is how you get to the "LeBron has no one" level. You just say things like this.

Doesn't LeBron make his teammates better?

I don't know what the first part of your post means. LBJ does make his teammates better - without him that roster wouldn't win more than 20 games.

There is an objective case to be made that the Cleveland roster is inferior to GS' roster. Don't see how that could not be the case.

I don't know what the first part of your post means. LBJ does make his teammates better - without him that roster wouldn't win more than 20 games.

There is an objective case to be made that the Cleveland roster is inferior to GS' roster. Don't see how that could not be the case.

Kevin Love shows up to play with LeBron and suddenly becomes not nearly as good as he supposedly was. The same thing happened with Bosh, and eventually Wade.
I'm sure that is true, especially since they got rid of Kyrie because he and LeBron didn't want to play together until after the trade and then supposedly LeBron was going to "work it out" with him.

Kevin Love was never great. He was a stat compiler on a bad team. On a teally good team, he's probably a 3rd option.

Since the best teams now routinely feature three all stars I agree he’s probably a 3rd option. He’s always been a very good player and legitimate all star though.

Kevin Love is a decent piece but not enough when you're going up against GS. Curry, Klay, and Durant crush LBJ and Love.

Not sure what you meant by working it out with Irving. Irving demanded the trade and he got what he wanted. He's now sitting someplace watching LBJ play in the finals, just like the rest of the East has done for eight years straight.

Three all stars isn't a new thing. This is the crux of our disagreement.

This is how you get to the "LeBron has no one" level. You just say things like this.

Doesn't LeBron make his teammates better?

lebron has a team that has 7 guys who put up over 9 pts a game this season. scoring isn't everything but he's got 3 good rebounders, decent defenders, a handful of 3pt specialists. this lebron has noone stuff is absurd in my opinion.

lebron has a team that has 7 guys who put up over 9 pts a game this season. scoring isn't everything but he's got 3 good rebounders, decent defenders, a handful of 3pt specialists. this lebron has noone stuff is absurd in my opinion.

His team sucks.

Listened for the first time in a while as I drove downtown, and heard a long segment talking about all the 40-8-8 games in NBA playoff history (LeBron had one last night in the loss). Dan said there have been 25 all time and that LeBron has 11 of them. He then asked McKnight to list as many other players he could who had at least one.

Um, Wilt? (No)
Um, Kobe? (No)
Um, Magic? (Once)
Ok, I give up...list them.

Dan: Ok, Jordan had 4...

You'd think Jordan would have been an early guess (if not the first) but

They then replayed an argument that Les and Herbie had last night where Herbie said LeBron's game was the "most efficient" he's even seen in the playoffs and Les countered that it wasn't as good as Jordan's 55 in a winning effort against Phoenix. DB proceeded to make fun of Les, as if Herbie was now the arbiter of all-time greatness.

the teammmates that he handpicked are bad ?