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Dan Bernstein Ricketts ownership year zero to 2017: Why are you worried about edwin jackson, heyward or other bad contracts caller... ? it wont affect the ability of the cubs to get free agents!!!! they have plenty of money!!
Dan Bernstein 2018-today: the cubs dont have the money to get harper or machado

Dan Bernstein from 2006-2018: Look at how SMART MLB teams have gotten. They know now it's stupid to give a 30 year old free agent big, long-term money.

Dan Bernstein in 2019: WHY ARE MLB TEAMS COLLUDING AGAINST 30 YEAR OLD FREE AGENTS?!?!? This is (no joke) "shadow collusion".

billypootons wrote:

Oh yeah you all laughed when I predicted this one.

Parkins is the only one on record saying he'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't make a push for Harper or Machado.

Two teams paid the luxury tax last year (the lowest number in 15 years).

Red Sox: $239.5 million payroll ($11.95 million luxury tax bill)

Nationals: $205 million payroll ($2.39 million luxury tax bill).

It's not a drop in the bucket (at least in the Red Sox case) but it certainly isn't a franchise crippling number the shitfuck owners would like you to believe it is either.

Keyser Soze wrote:

Doesn't it double and then triple if you do it in consecutive years?

Parkins is the only one on record saying he'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't make a push for Harper or Machado.

Author:	Juice's Lecture Notes [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:13 pm ]
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Dan Bernstein from 2006-2018: Look at how SMART MLB teams have gotten. They know now it's stupid to give a 30 year old free agent big, long-term money. Dan Bernstein in 2019: WHY ARE MLB TEAMS COLLUDING AGAINST 30 YEAR OLD FREE AGENTS?!?!? This is (no joke) "shadow collusion".

Author:	billypootons [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:16 pm ]
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i prefer Dan Bernstein Ricketts ownership year zero to 2017: Why are you worried about edwin jackson, heyward or other bad contracts caller... ? it wont affect the ability of the cubs to get free agents!!!! they have plenty of money!! Dan Bernstein 2018-today: the cubs dont have the money to get harper or machado

Author:	pittmike [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:23 pm ]
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billypootons wrote: i prefer Dan Bernstein Ricketts ownership year zero to 2017: Why are you worried about edwin jackson, heyward or other bad contracts caller... ? it wont affect the ability of the cubs to get free agents!!!! they have plenty of money!! Dan Bernstein 2018-today: the cubs dont have the money to get harper or machado Oh yeah you all laughed when I predicted this one.

Author:	Jaw Breaker [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:34 pm ]
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote: Dan Bernstein from 2006-2018: Look at how SMART MLB teams have gotten. They know now it's stupid to give a 30 year old free agent big, long-term money. Dan Bernstein in 2019: WHY ARE MLB TEAMS COLLUDING AGAINST 30 YEAR OLD FREE AGENTS?!?!? This is (no joke) "shadow collusion". I would never have guessed Dan saying that (the second part).

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:35 pm ]
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pittmike wrote: billypootons wrote: i prefer Dan Bernstein Ricketts ownership year zero to 2017: Why are you worried about edwin jackson, heyward or other bad contracts caller... ? it wont affect the ability of the cubs to get free agents!!!! they have plenty of money!! Dan Bernstein 2018-today: the cubs dont have the money to get harper or machado Oh yeah you all laughed when I predicted this one. You do know more about Dan Bernstein than anyone on here.

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Author:	City of Fools [ Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:52 pm ]
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Parkins is the only one on record saying he'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't make a push for Harper or Machado.

Author:	BD [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:57 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote: Parkins is the only one on record saying he'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't make a push for Harper or Machado. If the Cubs sign Harper or Machado, wouldn't their payroll be around $250M (assuming no other major changes)? What is the tax penalty and who is paying it?

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:26 pm ]
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Two teams paid the luxury tax last year (the lowest number in 15 years). Red Sox: $239.5 million payroll ($11.95 million luxury tax bill) Nationals: $205 million payroll ($2.39 million luxury tax bill). It's not a drop in the bucket (at least in the Red Sox case) but it certainly isn't a franchise crippling number the shitfuck owners would like you to believe it is either.

Author:	good dolphin [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:09 pm ]
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Keyser Soze wrote: Two teams paid the luxury tax last year (the lowest number in 15 years). Red Sox: $239.5 million payroll ($11.95 million luxury tax bill) Nationals: $205 million payroll ($2.39 million luxury tax bill). It's not a drop in the bucket (at least in the Red Sox case) but it certainly isn't a franchise crippling number the shitfuck owners would like you to believe it is either. Doesn't it double and then triple if you do it in consecutive years?

Author:	Keyser Soze [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:19 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: Two teams paid the luxury tax last year (the lowest number in 15 years). Red Sox: $239.5 million payroll ($11.95 million luxury tax bill) Nationals: $205 million payroll ($2.39 million luxury tax bill). It's not a drop in the bucket (at least in the Red Sox case) but it certainly isn't a franchise crippling number the shitfuck owners would like you to believe it is either. Doesn't it double and then triple if you do it in consecutive years? It goes from 20% to 30% in year 2 and 50% in year 3. So 29 teams have no excuses.

Author:	ToxicMasculinity [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:27 pm ]
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It is funny to see how many "woke" sports people beat us over the head about sabermetrics and now front offices are using stats to screw over paying dominant players.

Author:	denisdman [ Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:47 pm ]
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billypootons wrote: i prefer Dan Bernstein Ricketts ownership year zero to 2017: Why are you worried about edwin jackson, heyward or other bad contracts caller... ? it wont affect the ability of the cubs to get free agents!!!! they have plenty of money!! Dan Bernstein 2018-today: the cubs dont have the money to get harper or machado This is why I always hated the Heyward contract. The balance tax is so punative that a team would be stupid to pay it especially as the penalty rises in subsequent years.

Author:	Sarge [ Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 am ]
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City of Fools wrote: Parkins is the only one on record saying he'll be disappointed if the Cubs don't make a push for Harper or Machado. Parkins should have made a sign, and displayed it at the Rate when Machado was in town with Baltimore, to show Manny how much the city wants Machado on the North side......oh wait, ooopppsss...Shocked that didn't help seal the deal..

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