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Here's the thing. For years bernstein's mantra has been that such intangibles as "grindiness", leadership, etc. don't actually exist, or at least aren't important. That stuff is really just crap for meatball fans to discuss. He's even gone so far to ask athletes about it and when he hasn't received the answer to support his view, he's written it off as them saying the right thing. Now, suddenly, when it comes to LeBron James, these intangible qualities are crucial and his perception that LeBron lacks them has led danny to whining like a guy whose wife just left him or a kid who discovered there is no Santa Claus.

Every listener should be calling bullshit early and often, but you probably have to do it during WYC when he can't protest. Because I can just hear him in his pseudo-intellectual slow voice saying something like, "This is different. The type of leadership in the NBA game that I'm referencing is tangible. It has to do with taking the last shot in key situations. I just thought LeBron was better than he is. I wanted him to be the greatest ever. I wanted him to be better than Kobe and Jordan. But he just isn't. He isn't who I thought he was. He. Isn't. Who. I. Thought. He. Was."

Author:	Hungry Jack [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:	Bernsie on LeBron
Perhaps I am overanalyzing, but Bernsie's strong criticism of LBJ's leadership qualities seems to stem in part from being proved wrong in public about LBJ's character. He devoted a fair amount of airspace today to wailing about how disappointed he was that LBJ's leadership character (not wanting to be "the guy") failed to match his prodigious physical talent. Boers disageed, but Bernsie would not let it go for a good half hour. It all comes across as a bit petulant. Bernsie prides himself on his cerebral approach to sports talk, and at times is fairly bullying to callers who don't subscribe to his well-founded beliefs. So LBJ not living up to his publicly-pronounced expectations is a striking blow to his ego. I think the jury is still out on LBJ. Probably safe to say that he lacks MJ's killer instinct, but LBJ is still only 25--an age where most of us are just forming our adult characters. I think LBJ in 5 years may well be quite a different than the kid who just wants to have fun playing hoops with his friends on South Beach.

Author:	Phil McCracken [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:39 pm ]
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Am I Hungry?????I am man.

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:41 pm ]
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Is it too early for flapjacks?

Author:	Hungry Jack [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:46 pm ]
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REPLY FAIL.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:47 pm ]
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Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:47 pm ]
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Well shit, then....

Author:	Hungry Jack [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:48 pm ]
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LMAO

Author:	Krazy Ivan [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:49 pm ]
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Phil McCracken wrote: Hungry Jack wrote: REPLY FAIL. I just don't know what to believe anymore..... Well I, for one, am strobgly considering hopping on the Blue Line. If you catch my drift...

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:50 pm ]
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Author:	Free Ajent [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:50 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: Hungry Jack wrote: REPLY FAIL. I just don't know what to believe anymore..... Well I, for one, am strobgly considering hopping on the Blue Line. If you catch my drift... Wait...let me get a good seat first, and not a seat on the train either

Author:	Brick [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:52 pm ]
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For Don Tiny:

Author:	Don Tiny [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:56 pm ]
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(is baking gay?)

Author:	Free Ajent [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:03 pm ]
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Author:	Phil McCracken [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:09 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq_2GOoFaXE

Author:	Dave In Champaign [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:16 pm ]
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W_Z wrote: so maybe this just helps michael's legacy. More that it doesn't hurt it. The real potential beneficiary is Kobe. The Miami move conveniently dispelled the possibility that he would merely be a bridge between the MJ and LBJ eras. Another ring or two, especially at the expense of the nWo, probably pushes him from top 10-12/all-time great to top 5-6/immortal.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:18 pm ]
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bernstein sounds like a cross between the worst possible meatball caller and a jilted lover when he's talking about this. He doesn't know anything about LeBron, his thought process or his "guts, fire, or passion". After all these years insisting "it's about talent", he's now going meatball? Is Harangody his new favorite player? Luke is not afraid. And LeBron isn't any less talented in Miami than he was in Cleveland. Terry was great for once. He should have taken it a step further and told danny what an idiot he was being. bernstein actually made a weak meatballish attempt to compare LeBron to Robert Horry.

Author:	Cuda [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:23 pm ]
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The problem is that LeBron left. Had he stayed there and stuck it out, and had they brought players like Bosh to play with him in Cleveland, he still could be compared to Michael. Instead he ran away to do it somewhere else, that's where the comparison stops. Just my opinion.

Author:	Rod [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:30 pm ]
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W_Z wrote: so maybe this just helps michael's legacy. Here's a Chicago sacrilege, but I'll say it anyway. The whole stupid "assigning a championship to a single, specific player" is designed to protect Michael's "legacy". Russell's eight don't count because he was a tiny center who couldn't even guard the best two-guards of today. Cousy couldn't make a high school team let alone play in "The League". Humans were a different species when those guys played. Kobe has two. The first three the Lakers won are Shaq's. Nobody will ever equal Michael's six. No sir!

Author:	IkeSouth [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:39 pm ]
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michael jordan would have never joined a bunch of allstars just to get a bunch of fake rings. thats all im saying. thats probably what danny b. was sayin.

Author:	Hungry Jack [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:58 pm ]
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You guys are posting like natural born killers today. I commend your work!

Author:	W_Z [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:06 pm ]
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so maybe this just helps michael's legacy.

Author:	Baby McNown [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:18 pm ]
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Krazy Ivan wrote: Is it too early for flapjacks? Never too early for flapjacks.

Author:	Hungry Jack [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:51 pm ]
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Well, I think I finally found the one thing that Bernsie and Rick Telander have in common. They both pine for the transcendent professional athlete whose tears can cure cancer and whose mere utterings can fix the federal deficit, plug the oil geyser, and bend spoons. Problem is, this guy doesn't exist. Sports aren't larger than life, and guys who excel on the playing field are still just guys. Bernsie should know better.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:09 pm ]
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Funny, I never sensed that at all.

Author:	Scorehead [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:22 pm ]
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Berns has really gone overboard with he Lebron issue. Sure he's a jagbag for the ESPN special & all, but the guy wants to play with a few good players. Big fucking deal. Berns has gone 100% meatball when it comes to Lebron.

Author:	Rod [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:10 am ]
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Here's the thing. For years bernstein's mantra has been that such intangibles as "grindiness", leadership, etc. don't actually exist, or at least aren't important. That stuff is really just crap for meatball fans to discuss. He's even gone so far to ask athletes about it and when he hasn't received the answer to support his view, he's written it off as them saying the right thing. Now, suddenly, when it comes to LeBron James, these intangible qualities are crucial and his perception that LeBron lacks them has led danny to whining like a guy whose wife just left him or a kid who discovered there is no Santa Claus. Every listener should be calling bullshit early and often, but you probably have to do it during WYC when he can't protest. Because I can just hear him in his pseudo-intellectual slow voice saying something like, "This is different. The type of leadership in the NBA game that I'm referencing is tangible. It has to do with taking the last shot in key situations. I just thought LeBron was better than he is. I wanted him to be the greatest ever. I wanted him to be better than Kobe and Jordan. But he just isn't. He isn't who I thought he was. He. Isn't. Who. I. Thought. He. Was."

Author:	W_Z [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:13 am ]
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sour grapes because he didn't come to the bulls. waaaah waaahh...so sorry, bernstein. suck it up. still have a decent team.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:24 am ]
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Author:	Brian's Mojito [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:16 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Here's the thing. For years bernstein's mantra has been that such intangibles as "grindiness", leadership, etc. don't actually exist, or at least aren't important. That stuff is really just crap for meatball fans to discuss. He's even gone so far to ask athletes about it and when he hasn't received the answer to support his view, he's written it off as them saying the right thing. Now, suddenly, when it comes to LeBron James, these intangible qualities are crucial and his perception that LeBron lacks them has led danny to whining like a guy whose wife just left him or a kid who discovered there is no Santa Claus. Every listener should be calling bullshit early and often, but you probably have to do it during WYC when he can't protest. Because I can just hear him in his pseudo-intellectual slow voice saying something like, "This is different. The type of leadership in the NBA game that I'm referencing is tangible. It has to do with taking the last shot in key situations. I just thought LeBron was better than he is. I wanted him to be the greatest ever. I wanted him to be better than Kobe and Jordan. But he just isn't. He isn't who I thought he was. He. Isn't. Who. I. Thought. He. Was." Bernsie is the one who doesn't fully acknowledge that "this is different". He wastes a lot of time trying to make correlations and there aren't any. The weakest point of Bernsie's case deals with LeBron's "performance". We don't know what is going to take place on the court. The thought that LeBron's game will be lessened is just absurd. "He's not going to take last-second shots". Says who? Maybe he will suck, but shouldn't we wait until he steps foot on the court to make any of these observations?

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