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4/18 Bernsy vs. Matty: Round II
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Author:  beni hanna [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:10 am ]
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Last night our very own Matty Batty took Bernstein to task in the 5 PM hour regarding his stance on Shaw's importance to the team (not a top line player) and politely pilloried Bernstein's comments that ALL Blackhawk fans believed Shaw's hit shouldn't be penalized.

Matty fought the good fight for us bored memebers in support of intellectual sports chatter, not the B.S. we were being fed all day yesterday. He was not perfect in his analysis, but he tried when Bernsy wouldn't listen to others.

Thank you Matty for standing up for the intelligent meatballs! Keep him honest today.

:salut: :salut:

I would also like to point out that during the little half hour show that Laurence Holmes had immediately following B&B, he brought in Jay Zawaski who said what Matty was having trouble saying. Hmmm...get someone on the air that actually can talk about what Shaw means to the team and why his absence is a big deal. Novel freaking idea. Kudos to Laurence for doing this. I fail to see why Bernstein didn't try and get Jay on the show when he was flailing so badly. If he doesn't like Zawaski, the least the show could have done is look up Sam Felds who Bernstein refers to often. Shit, if nothing else just PM Ugie and get a hold of Stinkfinger. :mrgreen:

SHARK along later with updates.
Author:  Drop In [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:15 am ]
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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/18/ ... -everyone/

:lol:
Author:  Rod [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:21 am ]
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"Nothing is to be trusted when it comes to referees." This from a rabid NBA fan. :lol:
Author:  beni hanna [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:25 am ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
"Nothing is to be trusted when it comes to referees." This from a rabid NBA fan. :lol:

Compelling and rich. And quite true.
Author:  Rod [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:27 am ]
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beni hanna wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
"Nothing is to be trusted when it comes to referees." This from a rabid NBA fan. :lol:

Compelling and rich. And quite true.



I'd definitely say NBA officating is more comparable to WWE than NHL officating is.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:06 pm ]
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Drop In wrote:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/18/bernstein-a-sport-not-for-everyone/

:lol:


Greg Wyshynski wrote an article with the same premise last week. Congratulations, Dan, you're ripping off fuckin' toolbox Greg Wyshynski.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... 38970.html
Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:08 pm ]
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Going to have to check the podcast of today's transition when it's up because I think Terry just nodded along with someone one too many times.

Bernsie (in reference to Jim Cummins): I don't remember him.
Boers: I don't either.

About 30 seconds later...

Mac: We (meaning he and Terry) had him on a few times.
Boers: I remember.

:?:
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:14 pm ]
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Spiegel is from Jersey, Dan's wife is from Jersey, and neither can pronounce SEE-caucus?
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:16 pm ]
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When I hear a "Match Game" reference in regards to the NBA Draft Lottery set, I think of the classic '70s game show that's still one of GSN's most popular game shows to this day.
Author:  Tad Queasy [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:22 pm ]
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SHARK wrote:
When I hear a "Match Game" reference in regards to the NBA Draft Lottery set, I think of the classic '70s game show that's still one of GSN's most popular game shows to this day.


Great show, especially the ones from the early 70s. Gene Rayburn was one lecherous mofo.
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:23 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
SHARK wrote:
When I hear a "Match Game" reference in regards to the NBA Draft Lottery set, I think of the classic '70s game show that's still one of GSN's most popular game shows to this day.


Great show, especially the ones from the early 70s. Gene Rayburn was one lecherous mofo.

Moments of silence please for Gene Rayburn, Brett Somers, Charles Nelson Reilly & announcer Johnny Olson. Thank you.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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Match Game-style NBA draft lottery would be a fun way to determine draft order.

The Bobcats suck so hard, they end up with a mouthful of _______.


General manager of the Golden State Warriors: "Carolina-style barbecue sauce? Because it's Charlotte and they have barbecue and..."
Author:  SHARK [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:30 pm ]
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Here's the Wednesday game plan of silliness and seriousness on the "B & B Show":

*2:30p Cubs' TV PBP Len Kasper-Live from Miami
*3:30p: "The Second Half"

Producers: Matt Abbatacola & Jason Goff
"Scoreboard Updates": RED ALERT! RED ALERT!

Terry's "two favorite words in show business", Laurence "Mr. Multimedia" Holmes follows these guys at 6p for just 35 minutes in advance of Chris Rongey's pregame for Orioles/White Sox on the Chicago White Sox Radio Network at 6:35p from "The Cell".

PLEASE NOTE: Because the O's & White Sox play an afternoon game tomorrow...NO "WHO YA CRAPPIN'" TOMORROW @ 5p. Gary from Evanston will be bummed.

If that's not enough, Bernsy's latest column can be found here:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/18/ ... -everyone/
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:49 pm ]
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They're really going after everyone who calls. Who would at this point.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:51 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
They're really going after everyone who calls. Who would at this point.

Not Elmhurst Steve. He's afraid to call now.

And Berns just ripped him


But Ill be Jim in Evergreen Park has a thought


Wake n Bake this saturday is appointment radio with all this hockey talk by people that dont know hockey
Author:  NearWessSideHussra [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:53 pm ]
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Goff on skates, thuggin it up. Image
Author:  Northside_Dan [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:55 pm ]
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Against my better judgement, i'm going to tune in.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:56 pm ]
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The guy who said Kane and Hjalmarsson got off easy for their part in the Boedker goal kind of had a point. Of course it was a bad goal, a downright awful goal, but he's right; overtime goals often are. Would you call Bickell's goal a beauty? The mere fact that it was scored by Bryan Bickell virtually precludes it having been a beauty. What about Hanzal's redirect off an Aucoin point shot? What about Ben Smith's garbage goal to win Game 6 last year? As you get deeper and deeper into a game, the probability of getting something gross and fluky past the goalie approaches 1. To that end, you can place greater importance on not allowing the possibility of such a gross, fluky goal; ergo, Kane's gotta take heavy blame for that turnover. But of course, Dan and Terry made some loud false dichotomy fallacy over it and that was that.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:15 pm ]
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I didn't tune in until 2 b/c I didn't want to hear the hockey shit. figured it might be over by then. Nope, still going strong at 2:15, so I'm off to music. Maybe a little Drive-By Truckers today....
Author:  redskingreg [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:20 pm ]
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Goff wants Brodeur. Yeah, he looked great last night against Florida!
Author:  Northside_Dan [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:27 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
The guy who said Kane and Hjalmarsson got off easy for their part in the Boedker goal kind of had a point. Of course it was a bad goal, a downright awful goal, but he's right; overtime goals often are. Would you call Bickell's goal a beauty? The mere fact that it was scored by Bryan Bickell virtually precludes it having been a beauty. What about Hanzal's redirect off an Aucoin point shot? What about Ben Smith's garbage goal to win Game 6 last year? As you get deeper and deeper into a game, the probability of getting something gross and fluky past the goalie approaches 1. To that end, you can place greater importance on not allowing the possibility of such a gross, fluky goal; ergo, Kane's gotta take heavy blame for that turnover. But of course, Dan and Terry made some loud false dichotomy fallacy over it and that was that.


Truth. Hammer also with a becoming all too common soft play as well going into the boards. Plenty of bad to go around there.
Author:  No Clever Moniker [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
The guy who said Kane and Hjalmarsson got off easy for their part in the Boedker goal kind of had a point. Of course it was a bad goal, a downright awful goal, but he's right; overtime goals often are. Would you call Bickell's goal a beauty? The mere fact that it was scored by Bryan Bickell virtually precludes it having been a beauty. What about Hanzal's redirect off an Aucoin point shot? What about Ben Smith's garbage goal to win Game 6 last year? As you get deeper and deeper into a game, the probability of getting something gross and fluky past the goalie approaches 1. To that end, you can place greater importance on not allowing the possibility of such a gross, fluky goal; ergo, Kane's gotta take heavy blame for that turnover. But of course, Dan and Terry made some loud false dichotomy fallacy over it and that was that.



And Terry went back to it around the time you posted and I TTFP (Tapped the Fucking Pad).

B&B, (if you're reading) hockey (like most sports) is not about definitive or argumentative absolutes. Hockey, unlike any other major American sport, has a fludity to it that is more than just subtle and television does it little justice. You (DB in particular) have chosen to keep a closed mind in order to flimsily support your premises (remember the team that checks less wins?). There are sports fans in this city, on all sides of town and many of whom enjoy basketball as well, who love hockey. Particularly playoff hockey. Yes, people would rather hear you talk hockey as opposed to your latest foray down aisle 8 at the Treasure Island. But no, not if you stubbornly and ritualisticly choose to cling to notions that do not resonate with hockey fans. Chicago Blackhawk fans will only tolerate someone who doesn't like the Hawks so long as they know the game of hockey, and are willing to accept a few shots in the process. Is that too narrow a premise for you ladies?

Well, don't care because I'm through TTFP on this.
Author:  beni hanna [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:33 pm ]
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Quite honestly that guy that never has a good call wasn't horrible, and the last point about whether or not a 5 minute major may have impacted the game was worth discussing.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:34 pm ]
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No Clever Moniker wrote:
Yes, people would rather hear you talk hockey as opposed to your latest foray down aisle 8 at the Treasure Island.


"No," Jerry Angelo said.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:43 pm ]
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Tad Queasy wrote:
Going to have to check the podcast of today's transition when it's up because I think Terry just nodded along with someone one too many times.

Bernsie (in reference to Jim Cummins): I don't remember him.
Boers: I don't either.

About 30 seconds later...

Mac: We (meaning he and Terry) had him on a few times.
Boers: I remember.

:?:


Ha! I was listening to that too, he has been way out of his element today and that's saying something considering he usually has nothing of substance to add at anytime.

You could tell right out of the gate that Terry was having a really tough time staying "with it" show wise. His answers were all parroting stuff or just the typical "Uh, yeah, I know, but ya know, it is what it is"....it is obvious he didn't watch anything last night and certainly didn't bother reading anything about it this morning. The way he is speaking belies a man with no point of reference.

They made fun of THE CUMMER for not watching the hit yet going on air to discuss it....yet this is what Terry does every show.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 pm ]
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Kinda silly to call out hockey for all those meaningless scrums when football is just a series of meaningless scrums.
Author:  Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:23 pm ]
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Bernstein has no problem calling out hockey because he honestly doesn't like the sport. Based on his remarks the last couple of days, he seemingly makes no effort whatsoever to understand the game and simply shrugs hockey off into some kind of "barbaric sporting event" realm that only he understands and maintains.

He practically does the same thing with football - but only when asked if he would ever allow his children to play the sport. Otherwise, he has no problem with those players mutiliating one another on the field because he enjoys the game. "As long as my kids aren't out there, I say players can hit each other as hard as they want!"
Author:  SomeGuy [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:30 pm ]
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BernSTINE wrote:
Hockey makes people say stupid things so they can take stances on totally illogical things. That's what hockey does!


Boers wrote:
Uh, yeah...yeah, but uh, yeah...I don't care about him


At least just admit you don't like the sport, don't know anything about it and would rather talk about something else. Have some balls.

Bad gets worse.

I'm ejecting.
Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:10 pm ]
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SomeGuy wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
Going to have to check the podcast of today's transition when it's up because I think Terry just nodded along with someone one too many times.

Bernsie (in reference to Jim Cummins): I don't remember him.
Boers: I don't either.

About 30 seconds later...

Mac: We (meaning he and Terry) had him on a few times.
Boers: I remember.

:?:


Ha! I was listening to that too, he has been way out of his element today and that's saying something considering he usually has nothing of substance to add at anytime.

You could tell right out of the gate that Terry was having a really tough time staying "with it" show wise. His answers were all parroting stuff or just the typical "Uh, yeah, I know, but ya know, it is what it is"....it is obvious he didn't watch anything last night and certainly didn't bother reading anything about it this morning. The way he is speaking belies a man with no point of reference.

They made fun of THE CUMMER for not watching the hit yet going on air to discuss it....yet this is what Terry does every show.

Terry is Pat Summitting?
Author:  Dewskie [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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The bitch about listening to B/B hockey talk is that they firmly believe that their opinion of hockey (as a non-sport destined for failure) is gospel, and the injuries/fights/violence that get major attention results in them smirking and chiding idiot hockey fans about how B & B were right all along. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some FUCK BERNSTEEN SO NEGATIVE guy, I just wish they'd either talk about the sport with a slight bit of objectivity or not talk about it all.
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