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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Bernstein vs. OKC |
Quote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein
For all you little kids trying to sound smart, James is a better, more versatile defender than Pippen. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Yeah... He's wrong. Not surprising. Berns has bad NBA thoughts far more often than good ones. It's cute that he's just now realizing the Spurs might be the best team in the league. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
conns7901 wrote: Quote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein For all you little kids trying to sound smart, James is a better, more versatile defender than Pippen. Good Lord... Talent-wise they are about equal, but Pippen had a longer wingspan... Lebron is prolly quicker... Yet another unquantifiable argument brought by the greatest athlete/radio host to ever work in this city... maybe ever. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
conns7901 wrote: Quote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein For all you little kids trying to sound smart, James is a better, more versatile defender than Pippen. By "better, more versatile," I hope he means bigger because Pippen was a beast in his own right. Bersnstein is such a smug little prick. Easily the guy I dislike the most on Chicago radio. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Quote: Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein
Pippen could grab, bump and hand-check. Great for the game of his era, but that was many years ago. Watch tape -- different ball. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
It's worth mentioning that LeBron has never been the best individual defender in the league since he's been in. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Anyone else think Berns wears life vest over a leather jacket while walking around in water skis? |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
FavreFan wrote: It's worth mentioning that LeBron has never been the best individual defender in the league since he's been in. When did Pippen win dpy? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
It is not really an outrageous opinion, is it? I think he is wrong, Pippen was better, but they are at least close. It would be fun to see Pippen in his prime guarding James. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Jbi11s wrote: FavreFan wrote: It's worth mentioning that LeBron has never been the best individual defender in the league since he's been in. When did Pippen win dpy? When did I mention dpoy? That's almost always a big man's award. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
I'll take OKC in this titanic struggle. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Terry's Peeps wrote: I'll take OKC in this titanic struggle. I'll take the iceberg. I think it'll be a failure to engage. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Lebron has been regarded as one of the best defenders in the league for at least 3 yeas now... I don't remember anyone saying Pip was hands down the best in the league during his whole career... Like I said before, too close to call, and Lebron is in his 2nd prime with another decade to go. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
RFDC wrote: It would be fun to see Pippen in his prime guarding James. I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron but I bet Rodman could make him cry. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron Why not? Aren't you supposed to be on the side of the older guy? |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: It would be fun to see Pippen in his prime guarding James. I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron but I bet Rodman could make him cry. Pip would have a better chance defending Lebron because of the way Scottie could affect Lebron's passing... Rodman was. Abeast, but more of a post defender... |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Jbi11s wrote: Lebron has been regarded as one of the best defenders in the league for at least 3 yeas now... I don't remember anyone saying Pip was hands down the best in the league during his whole career... Like I said before, too close to call, and Lebron is in his 2nd prime with another decade to go. Well if you don't remember Pip's career just say that. He was widely regarded as the best defender in the league for the better part of the 90's. LeBron is great defensively but he's never been better than Kobe until this year or last, and now he's still behind Tony Allen and Iguodala. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron Why not? Aren't you supposed to be on the side of the older guy? Only if the older guy was better. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron Why not? Aren't you supposed to be on the side of the older guy? Only if the older guy was better. So why couldn't Pip guard Lebron |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I don't really think Pippen could guard LeBron Why not? Aren't you supposed to be on the side of the older guy? Only if the older guy was better. The context here is solely defensively. By that criteria alone Pippen was better. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
RFDC wrote: So why couldn't Pip guard Lebron Too big, too strong. Even for the later career steroidal Pip. |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: RFDC wrote: So why couldn't Pip guard Lebron Too big, too strong. Even for the later career steroidal Pip. They're all on steroids. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
FavreFan wrote: Jbi11s wrote: Lebron has been regarded as one of the best defenders in the league for at least 3 yeas now... I don't remember anyone saying Pip was hands down the best in the league during his whole career... Like I said before, too close to call, and Lebron is in his 2nd prime with another decade to go. Well if you don't remember Pip's career just say that. He was widely regarded as the best defender in the league for the better part of the 90's. LeBron is great defensively but he's never been better than Kobe until this year or last, and now he's still behind Tony Allen and Iguodala. Absolute horseshit opinions. I can't ever argue with you when you don't have facts straight... Don't remember pips career? What? I watched 100s of Bulls games in the 90s... So many... Pippen and Jordan were great together on defense (Jordan won 3 dpoy awards. Don't ever forget that)... Where is the other defensive stopper on Miami? Its not dwade. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
FavreFan wrote: The context here is solely defensively. By that criteria alone Pippen was better. I don't really think that's true. The Bulls played great team defense and Pippen was obviously the key guy in that but LeBron can guard every position on the floor from a super-quick little man like Rose to a powerful center. Pippen just couldn't do all of that. In fact, fast little guys were what gave the Bulls fits. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Tony Allen? Andre Iguodala? The fuck outta here... Watch basketball once in a while. |
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| Author: | Dewskie [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
The only reason Dan says any of this shit is because LeBron is popular to hate, and Berns gets a hard on from stirring the pot. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
But LeBron can't really guard 4's and 5's. That's a myth perpetuated by people not watching. Maybe the smaller guys but even a guy like LaMarcus Aldridge will have his way with LeBron in the post. |
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| Author: | Jbi11s [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
FavreFan wrote: But LeBron can't really guard 4's and 5's. That's a myth perpetuated by people not watching. Maybe the smaller guys but even a guy like LaMarcus Aldridge will have his way with LeBron in the post. OmG... Good night. Lamarcus Aldridge? I gotta block you so I don't lose my shit reading this Telander-esque nonsense... For fucks sake. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
Jbi11s wrote: Tony Allen? Andre Iguodala? The fuck outta here... Watch basketball once in a while. Tony Allen was 6th in Dpoy voting this year and the only non-forward/center in the top 12 you idiot. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Wed May 30, 2012 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Bernstein vs. OKC |
FavreFan wrote: But LeBron can't really guard 4's and 5's. That's a myth perpetuated by people not watching. Maybe the smaller guys but even a guy like LaMarcus Aldridge will have his way with LeBron in the post. Scorers always score no matter who is guarding them. The best defenders just make them work harder for it. |
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