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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:23 am 
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It's Thursday, June 14th, and you know what's on tap at 5p today? That's right...It's "Who Ya Crappin'?", complete with all the usual suspects such as Gary from Evanston. Before Gary & others offer their weekly offerings of verbal hypocrisy, the guys have a lot to talk about.

I'm sure you'll get the latest on creepy Jerry Sandusky and the goings on in his sex abuse trial in Pennsylvania. I saw something on the news ticker this morning that the prosecution might rest their case against the former Penn State football assistant as soon as tomorrow. Based on everything I've heard, the evidence appears pretty damning and hard time for Sandusky appears inevitable.

The guys talked very briefly about new trouble for 7-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong yesterday. As you would probably figure, Lance is denying the latest allegations by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency of doping and claims he's innocent. This despite the fact that federal investigators closed their case without pressing criminal charges against the now-retired cyclist.

As for the actual sports themselves, the White Sox wasted 7 innings of 1-run ball by Jake Peavy while Lance Lynn struck out 12 Sox in the Cardinals' 1-0 winner in St. Louis last night. Lynn and the Mets' R.A. Dickey are the only 10-game winners in MLB after R.A. dominated the Rays last night as well by a 9-1 final at Tropicana Field.

As for the Cubs, Matt Garza went 6 innings, allowed 5 runs, but only 3 of them earned after 3B Joe Mather's throwing error off the bat of Prince Fielder opened the flood gates for the Tigers in a 4-run 6th inning. Jhonny Peralta had 3 hits & 2 RBI's while Brennan Boesch's 7th homer highlighted a 4-hit night for him in Detroit's 8-4 win over the Northsiders. It's become an all too familiar story for Dale Sveum's guys, and they'll be dealing with Justin Verlander in the wrap as soon as Terry & Dan B. sign on this afternoon.

Might the guys also mention the Giants' Matt Cain's own "perfecto"? Pardon my bad Ed Farmer imitation, but Cain tied Sandy Koufax in 1965 with 14 K's in achieving San Francisco's first ever perfect game, a 10-0 shutout of the Astros at AT&T Park, and only the 22nd perfect game in MLB history.

Finally, are the Heat on the spot tonight as they seek a 1-1 series split in the NBA Finals with the Thunder in Oklahoma City? Game 2 tips just after 8p, and one has to wonder if the Heat will make necessary adjustments to even the series with the next 3 in Miami starting Sunday night. Will Kevin Durant & Russell Westbrook dominate again like they did in the 2nd half of Game 1? More sports & hopefully less Sandusky this afternoon following the daily transition with Mac & Spiegs around 1:15p or so.


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It took SHARK's threads for Tad Queasy and I to find common ground. I'm glad it happened actually.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:31 am 
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What? Less is more?


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SHARK wrote:
What? Less is more?

In the case of these threads, I think so.

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Sandusky talk ad nauseaum AND Lance Armstrong bashing! That's quite the enticement. If a former NFL player shoots himself in the chest today, Bernstein will spontaneously combust.

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SHARK wrote:
What? Less is more?

Yes.

In the future, please provide bullet points and keep each bulleted point to one sentence. That is how a summary is written.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:00 am 
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It took SHARK's threads for Tad Queasy and I to find common ground. I'm glad it happened actually.


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THREAD TITLE RERUNS?

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This did look familiar...

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rogers park bryan wrote:
THREAD TITLE RERUNS?

are you fucking kiddng me?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:21 am 
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For shame SHARK.

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I used to name every daily thread "THE THREAD" and no one seemed to mind, though it is worth mentioning that I don't get to start daily threads anymore.

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I used to name every daily thread "THE THREAD" and no one seemed to mind, though it is worth mentioning that I don't get to start daily threads anymore.


Thread politics...

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I used to name every daily thread "THE THREAD" and no one seemed to mind, though it is worth mentioning that I don't get to start daily threads anymore.

:lol:

Yeah, it's kinda difficult to do it when SHARK is starting them at 9am.

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I believe this is a "suspended from making threads for a while" type offense


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This was my favorite thread title.

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=53719&p=967899#p967899

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I read your summary. Do you remember that one time Silky D was good. And then everyone realized that every single interview would be the same. "These guys suck. THe 85 Bears could have cured AIDS."

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Oh man, I had forgotten all about Bears Expert Dennis McKinnon. That was some quality grumbling.

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He cursed on the air too. It was after that Cutler vs. The Giants multiple sack game. He said something to the effect of, "To hell with this shit!" pretending to look inside Jay's mind.

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I read your summary. Do you remember that one time Silky D was good. And then everyone realized that every single interview would be the same. "These guys suck. THe 85 Bears could have cured AIDS."

It was sad when he kept calling in and B&B didn't really want to talk with him. Let it go Silky D. Let it go.


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Yeah, it's kinda difficult to do it when SHARK is starting them at 9am.


The day before.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I read your summary. Do you remember that one time Silky D was good. And then everyone realized that every single interview would be the same. "These guys suck. THe 85 Bears could have cured AIDS."

It was sad when he kept calling in and B&B didn't really want to talk with him. Let it go Silky D. Let it go.


He sounded like Joe in Evanston


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The best was Dave Duerson saying that we as fan needed to "literally" rally around the Bears.

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The best was Dave Duerson saying that we as fan needed to "literally" rally around the Bears.


Dragging these old 85 Bears guys out of the crypt (or the grave) makes for some interesting, funny and usually bad radio....in a good way.

Remember The Punk QB calling in from Hawaii about some late hit or CTE issues or Jay Cutlers toughness? Horrible and awesome. "Ya know guys, I don't really watch the game anymore but...."


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Solid. But "Friday Open Tickles My Tingling Testicles" was your best work, especially considering I briefly thought SHARK started it.

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The best was Dave Duerson saying that we as fan needed to "literally" rally around the Bears.


What's the big deal with that?

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Solid. But "Friday Open Tickles My Tingling Testicles" was your best work, especially considering I briefly thought SHARK started it.


:lol:

I forgot about that.

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Late addendum to the list of possible talking points on today's show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/sports/pop-warner-football-limits-contact-in-practices.html

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Late addendum to the list of possible talking points on today's show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/sports/pop-warner-football-limits-contact-in-practices.html


And the response will be, they shouldn't be hitting at all. That will reduce, but not eliminate, the number of concussions. Ah, the world is full of risks, and do gooders try to take away our fun and protect us from ourselves.

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Jerry Sandusky's small group of loyal supporters includes Joyce Porter, who says he's a 'saint'

By Dan Wetzel | Yahoo! Sports – 3 hours ago

BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Joyce Porter sits in a booth at the old downtown Diamond Deli, across the street from the Centre County Courthouse where her friend Jerry Sandusky is being tried on 52 counts of sexually molesting children.

She nibbles chicken salad on a croissant and uses a somewhat shocking analogy for why she maintains undying support for the most hated man in Pennsylvania, if not beyond.

"When everyone was persecuting Jesus, someone had to stand with him," Porter said.

It's worth noting that Porter didn't say Jerry Sandusky was Jesus, just that in her view the situation has similarities. Although she does hold the former Penn State defensive coordinator in the highest esteem.

"A saint," she said. "A wonderful guy."

Porter is part of a select group – the few, the proud, the ultra loyal. Each day of the Sandusky trial, a small cadre of family and friends huddle on the benches in the courtroom's right side, not far from Sandusky's defense table. It's usually just 6-10 people.

Considering the charges Sandusky faces, the seemingly endless parade of witnesses providing disturbing testimony against him and the appalling nature of his alleged acts, any support is more than one might expect.

Jerry Sandusky's wife, Dottie, and their adopted son aren't allowed in the courtroom because they are potential witnesses. So the rooting section is a handful of others, whoever is willing to sit with what is essentially the most scorned club in town.

This is what's left of Sandusky's inner circle. Porter, 64, and a friend of the Sanduskys for over four decades, figures there may be more, but acknowledges that publicly showing support is not easy.

"They are probably afraid to come," she said.

They hug Sandusky when he enters the courtroom in the morning. They chat up his attorney, Joe Amendola, during breaks. Some take notes. Others try to help the defense with research or odd jobs. A few report back to Dottie on developments, so she can avoid media coverage.

For a defendant and a legal team under siege, they appear to be a welcome refuge.

"How is everybody this morning," Amendola said to the group Wednesday. "Bright? Cheery?"

When he can, Sandusky walks over to share smiles and the occasional laugh.

"I give him a hug every day and tell him I love him," Porter said.

Most in the group avoid public comment. A few were willing to talk off the record or on background about Sandusky. Porter is different. She is unabashed in her support even though she knows how angry it makes people.

When a picture of her standing behind Sandusky after one legal proceeding appeared in the Altoona Mirror, she received outraged emails from family and friends.

"They were like, 'What were you doing there? I'm shocked,' " Porter said. "And I said, 'I've been his friend for 40 years. I'm not going to let that go. He just didn't do these things.' "

They met when the Sanduskys first moved to State College in 1969. Their children were the same age. She and Dottie became fast friends. Everyone grew up together. She came to find Jerry as generous, gregarious, caring, fun and loving.

There is nothing the deputy attorney general can say to change her mind.

"One of the things that make me feel like I do is in 1985, we had a little boy with Down syndrome," Porter said of Matt, one of her 14 children [nine natural, five adopted]. "Dottie and Jerry would take him over to their home. They were wonderful with him.

"… And my Matt just adores Jerry. You say to Matt, 'Who's the best?' and he says, 'Jerry!' "

Still, it isn't easy to sit in court each day and hear about dastardly act after dastardly act. There's some concern, but only because the whole picture, she says, isn't being presented.

"I think if you didn't know Jerry, you might think, 'Wow, there's eight of them,' " Porter said of the accusers. "If you know Jerry, there's no way. There are thousands of kids [he's helped through the Second Mile charity]. And he affects people. He's just wonderful with kids."

Some of that is undeniable. The Second Mile did great work for many. But how does anyone reconcile showering alone with children?

"Do you do sports?" Porter argued. "Guys always go in the shower."

Not with little boys.

"You ever go to the YMCA to go swimming?," she said. "The locker rooms are filled with all ages. Men and women, all walking around naked. It's no different."

No different than showering alone in an empty locker room late at night, playing "soap battles"?

"However long as the YMCA swimming pool is open there are all aged nude people in the locker room," she said. "And I think when you are a mother you realize boys are nudists. And I think football coaches, they're always hanging out."

She pauses, has a bite of her sandwich, a sip of iced tea and concedes it could be better.

"I mean, I think it looks bad for people that are prudes and in this day and age when you can't touch a kid," she said. "Jerry is a huggy, wonderful guy."

What about laying in bed with the kids?

"It's a sign of him being fatherly," she said. "Did your dad lay down with you when it was time to go to bed? I know my dad did with me.

"At nursery schools, if they are staying through the day, they rub their backs so they take a little nap. I mean we're turning into a bunch of no-touchers. But counselors will take your knee and rub your knee when they talk to you. It's supposed to make you more attentive."

On and on it goes. She has her reasons to dispute any and all evidence. No matter what you think of Sandusky, the totality of Porter's support is something to behold. This is the definition of loyalty.

She thinks the alleged victims are just out for money. She thinks they are disloyal considering everything Jerry tried to do for them through Second Mile. She thinks they embellished innocent acts. She can't figure out what witness Mike McQueary is thinking. She just knows that she doesn't believe anything he says.

Where much of the courtroom might see a credible witness, Porter says her natural instinct is jump and shout "liar!"

Porter expects Sandusky to be found not guilty and hasn't even bothered thinking about how he may have only a week or so more of freedom.

"I think doubts will be in the jurors' minds if they are keeping an open mind," she said.

Is there anything that can be presented at this trial that would convince her of Sandusky's guilt?

"Not unless he himself would say, 'I did this,' " Porter said.

He probably isn't going to say that, although he is expected to take the stand in his own defense next week. That's when the case, the Sandusky support crew, says, will spin around.

"One guy [in the group] said, 'It's a football game. This is only the first half. We haven't heard the defenses side yet,' " Porter said.

Lunch was winding down, the plates empty, the cups drained. The trial would soon start back up, another session in Courtroom No. 1.

Porter decided to get a cup of coffee from the Diamond Deli first, something to keep her alert as she listened to the coming testimony.

This was the last of the last of the loyal friends of Jerry Sandusky, prepping for another afternoon of unconditional support of a man they'll swear by, whether you like it or not, to the bitter, bitter end.

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