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Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:35 pm ]
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I caught this. About 12:40 or so I think.

They played a clip of Goff fighting with Mac over a throw away comment. Mac called Bears camp "Camp McCaskey". Goff got angry and said "It's camp Lovie, mothafucka." (I exaggerated the mothafucka part). Mac said "Are you gonna split hairs with me all god damn day?"

The point being that Goff is always looking for a fight as I have often said. Spiegel heard the clip and said that's Goff's thing. He always needs a conflict or a fight. Something like that. Looks like Spiegel is fed up with Goff's behavior.

Goff will probably use Spiegel calling him out to create more conflict. :lol:
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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He's a bit of a contrarian.....that's fine and not at all racial.
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:44 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
He's a bit of a contrarian.....that's fine and not at all racial.


Contrarian is one thing. Looking for a fight and always being a bitch is another thing. If Goff were a Jewish women he'd be called a yenta.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
He's a bit of a contrarian.....that's fine and not at all racial.



Of course he's had it up to his ears with all the pseudo-intellectual Joos on the station, but that should be a place where he and Mac can find common ground. :lol:
Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:46 pm ]
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I don't know that Goff loves conflict, but his on-air persona has become increasingly grating. He's a know-it-all who expends a tremendous amount of energy trying to present himself as a cool dude who just likes hanging out and casually discussing sports and Things Brothers Don't Do. Which in many ways is more frustrating than a guy who's just straight argumentative.
Author:  Brick [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:47 pm ]
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Wow. Spiegel gives his staff a day off and goes after others at the station.

He was probably just mad that Goff joked about Spiegel taking off a lot of days so Goff can cash more checks.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:52 pm ]
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Goff needs to chill!
Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:57 pm ]
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Goff's getting into "I stay well-balanced by having a chip on each shoulder" territory. The Score's glass ceiling does weird things to people.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:58 pm ]
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Dave In Champaign wrote:
I don't know that Goff loves conflict, but his on-air persona has become increasingly grating. He's a know-it-all who expends a tremendous amount of energy trying to present himself as a cool dude who just likes hanging out and casually discussing sports and Things Brothers Don't Do. Which in many ways is more frustrating than a guy who's just straight argumentative.



His ideas about where great players of the past would fit in today's NBA or NFL are preposterous. He's typical of many guys from his generation. He has very strong opinions without a whole lot behind them. Thankfully, we have quite a few guys in this forum around his age who aren't like that.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:59 pm ]
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Goff has become increasing annoying, as of late. He does seem to be just looking for a fight. You could tell Mac was getting annoyed with it.
I suspect Goff will be filling in less for Speigs as the year goes on.
Jason regressed over the last year or so.
Author:  SomeGuy [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Goff's getting into "I stay well-balanced by having a chip on each shoulder" territory. The Score's glass ceiling does weird things to people.


I agree.

I wonder if he really thought that last summer was the time for him to ascend to a full time show. I remember those heady days full of promise, potential and possible glory. Did he get some assurances that were dismissed by Mitch? Did someone in management shoot down the idea of him going Full-Time +Big Time?

He has become increasingly combative with everyone, or so it seems....

Hmmmmmmm.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:00 pm ]
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Dave In Champaign wrote:
I don't know that Goff loves conflict, but his on-air persona has become increasingly grating. He's a know-it-all who expends a tremendous amount of energy trying to present himself as a cool dude who just likes hanging out and casually discussing sports and Things Brothers Don't Do. Which in many ways is more frustrating than a guy who's just straight argumentative.

Thats what I was saying before SPmack started sayiing I was just bitter.



Like I wrote then. I once pressed him on why he said something that made no sense during a press conference they were playing and his response was "One reason: Im Me"


That about sums it up. Maybe he thinks thats what people want.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:02 pm ]
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Oh and BTW



Jason Goff and Scott Murray retweeted you
10 Jul: #AskHerb is consistently entertaining




Good enough to ReTweet and bad enough to Block, I guess
Author:  spmack [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:04 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Thats what I was saying before SPmack started sayiing I was just bitter.

:roll:
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:06 pm ]
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Mac has to be thinking "Why is Goff shoved down my throat when his radio Daddy doesn't have to take him?"

Larry has to be used on both shows. I think Bernstein and Mac understand that. Mich has to get some worth out of Larry.

But Bernstein gets to pick Rosie and Rozner while Mitch makes Mac take Goff. Why?
Author:  Brick [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:07 pm ]
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You guys are crazy. Goff is good. Yeah, he's "opinionated" but that's kind of the point.

Goff + Mac > Spiegel + Mac
Author:  SomeGuy [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:09 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
You guys are crazy. Goff is good. Yeah, he's "opinionated" but that's kind of the point.

Goff + Mac > Spiegel + Mac


Crazy?

Not bloody likely!
Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:13 pm ]
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I like Jason's work, but sometimes he does go overboard with his LeBron-versus-MJ, Miami Heat, young-black-guys-takin'-over love.
Author:  spmack [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:15 pm ]
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Anytime there's a negative Goff post on this board, RPB is right there to say "Yep, I agree".


I didn't see any of that from RPB, beforehand.


#justsayin
Author:  RFDC [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
Anytime there's a negative Goff post on this board, RPB is right there to say "Yep, I agree".


I didn't see any of that from RPB, beforehand.


#justsayin


RPB has some time tomorrow to fit you in.

But let's let him focus on Frank this afternoon.

Thanks.
Author:  beni hanna [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Oh and BTW



Jason Goff and Scott Murray retweeted you
10 Jul: #AskHerb is consistently entertaining




Good enough to ReTweet and bad enough to Block, I guess

Man Love?
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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There is clearly a chip on Goff's shoulder. He walks around the stuio and hallways saying to all Score staffers "Try to knock it off, mothafuckas."

Score Staffers: :shock:

Why does he have the chip? I have no idea. It's sports radio and sports talk, Jason. Calm the hell down.
Author:  spmack [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:20 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
spmack wrote:
Anytime there's a negative Goff post on this board, RPB is right there to say "Yep, I agree".


I didn't see any of that from RPB, beforehand.


#justsayin


RPB has some time tomorrow to fit you in.

But let's let him focus on Frank this afternoon.

Thanks.

What did Frank do today? Post in the Cubs section again?
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:22 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
RFDC wrote:
spmack wrote:
Anytime there's a negative Goff post on this board, RPB is right there to say "Yep, I agree".


I didn't see any of that from RPB, beforehand.


#justsayin


RPB has some time tomorrow to fit you in.

But let's let him focus on Frank this afternoon.

Thanks.

What did Frank do today? Post in the Cubs section again?

If BigFan ever decides to delete the Cub section, Franklin's post count will fall below mine.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:30 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Thats what I was saying before SPmack started sayiing I was just bitter.

:roll:

What are you rolling your eyes at? Thats exactly what happened

Youll probably do it again in this thread


OH LOOK....two posts later....


spmack wrote:
Anytime there's a negative Goff post on this board, RPB is right there to say "Yep, I agree".


I didn't see any of that from RPB, beforehand.


#justsayin



Maybe, Goff really IS getting a big head and its not JUST ME?


Your whole premise is flawed though. As Ive said before, it was criticisms that got me blocked in the first place. So obviously I had to be critical BEFORE the block
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:31 pm ]
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Goff often grants a pre show interview with Radiosubs.com before he guest hosts on Score shows. This is how it went last week.

Radiosubs.com: What's your prediction for your show with, Mac?

Goff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1TxiVhrkZA

Mac: :shock: What the fuck? It's sports radio for the love of God. I shouldn't have to fear for my life.
Author:  spmack [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:39 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Maybe, Goff really IS getting a big head and its not JUST ME?


Your whole premise is flawed though. As Ive said before, it was criticisms that got me blocked in the first place. So obviously I had to be critical BEFORE the block

Ok, that may be true, but I'm not going to allow you to get away with not looking at the fact that you are much more critical of Goff, post-block.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:42 pm ]
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spmack wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Maybe, Goff really IS getting a big head and its not JUST ME?


Your whole premise is flawed though. As Ive said before, it was criticisms that got me blocked in the first place. So obviously I had to be critical BEFORE the block

Ok, that may be true, but I'm not going to allow you to get away with not looking at the fact that you are much more critical of Goff, post-block.

I voice my opinions more, but his attitude has changed.

You think I WANT to not like the guy at the Score who plays Wu Tang on sports radio?
Author:  Beardown [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:05 pm ]
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The bottom line is Spiegel wanted to throw a shot across the bow. Maybe he was speaking for everybody at the station. This soundbite was played at 12:40. They wanted Goff to hear it. Mac sounded kind of aggravated at the replay of Goff being a petty bitch to him. But he let Spiegel fight the battle for him. This was orchestrated to send a message.

Will Goff receive it well?

Of course not. He's gonna get fuckin' even!!!! Cuz that's what he does. Constructive criticism with merit? Hell, no. Goff would never see it that way. It's on!!!! Goff is plotting as we speak.
Author:  denisdman [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:08 pm ]
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You like to stir up trouble Beardown. You over think stuff, me thinks.
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