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Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
The "who replaces Boers" question has gotten a lot of burn lately, and the consensus seems to be that Leery is first in line, since a.) Mitch inexplicably loves him, and b.) the universe is an insensate abyss devoted to destroying all happiness.

I know very little about the business of radio, so I thought I'd put the question out there for those who do: how well would the DAN & Leery show do? I'd love to think that it would fail miserably, but I doubt it, because of the universe and all (see supra). What say you?
Author:  Scorehead [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Ratings wouldn't change much without Terry, Without Dan, I think the ratings get better. Remember that the B&B show is the lowest rated show on WSCR...at least it was the last time I read the daypart ratings.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
They'd do fine enough for a while until people realized Terry wasn't coming back from vacation this time, I bet. What it might do is inspire 1000 to smell blood in the water, redoubling its efforts in afternoons to put together a show that isn't a win-by-forfeit for the Score like Carmen DeFalco is.
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Dan will likely go to a national broadcast. I don't think he has issues with Larry, but I just think he can be a solid guy on a syndicated show.
Author:  RFDC [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Scorehead wrote:
Ratings wouldn't change much without Terry, Without Dan, I think the ratings get better. Remember that the B&B show is the lowest rated show on WSCR...at least it was the last time I read the daypart ratings.


You remain an idiot.
Author:  Scorehead [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
RFDC wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Ratings wouldn't change much without Terry, Without Dan, I think the ratings get better. Remember that the B&B show is the lowest rated show on WSCR...at least it was the last time I read the daypart ratings.


You remain an idiot.


Thank you. Have a great evening.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
I can't listen to Dan and Leery together without feeling like I'm somehow being ganged up on. I can't be alone in feeling this way. I mean, the knock on Dan and Terry is that they don't have enough "conflict" and almost always take the same side, but it's not really the same, you know? Terry will agree with a lot of stuff, whether out of laziness or because there's no sensible counterpoint to take, but it's not really done simply to reinforce his partner.

The worst is when Leery goes all Mr. Score like he did on Wednesday and dozens of days in the past, waddling up his own ass and the asses of others in proximity to celebrate where they work and we don't. Hard not to feel beaten down.
Author:  Crystal Lake Hoffy [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
I wouldnt call Larry creepy. They would sound better together if he wasn't trying to be Dan and just tried to be himself. When Dan tells his story about George Brett taking batting practice at Wrigley, there is Larry with his story of a player that I don't remember because I turned it off knowing he was doing his "thing".
Author:  Don Tiny [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
RFDC wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Ratings wouldn't change much without Terry, Without Dan, I think the ratings get better. Remember that the B&B show is the lowest rated show on WSCR...at least it was the last time I read the daypart ratings.


You remain an idiot.


It's at a point where we can add it to the 'death and taxes' list of shit to count on.
Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
My problem with Dan and Leery shows is that they're not really sports radio in any recognizable sense. For Dan, every game serves as an (increasingly tortured) exercise in providing larger perspective, within the context of the sport ("regular season games are meaningless if you can't beat the Heat in the East Finals") or without ("people who root for Tim Tebow are horrible"). Leery takes that meta perspective and runs right off the reservation with it. Sports apparently exist solely as a medium through which he can justify his own importance, be it through relating banal stories of his personal life, peddling crackpot theories about how various things Have A Lot To Do With Race, or good old-fashioned name-dropping. If you just enjoy sports for the sake of sports--you celebrate a regular-season win over the Bucks because it's fun to watch Derrick Rose hit a game winner, for example, or you think Tebow's ok because it's kind of cool to see an option offense in the NFL--there's not really any room for you.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
When you really stop and think about it, it's kind of absurd that Boers & Bernstein has been allowed to become Chicago sports talk's show of record. That doesn't mean it's a bad show, because it isn't at all, just that I wouldn't make it my flagship. I loved Arrested Development, but I wouldn't anchor a block of primetime with it. Don't ask me where I would ever get such an outrageous idea, but I don't think the average Chicago sports talk listener is in it for the esoteric nonsense that I'm in it for. As such, we're in the odd position of having our biggest show on our biggest station be one that just complains about the audience, complains about the meaninglessness of what they cover, ignores everything they don't like, and now and then circle-jerks over wild nights of yore with the Albany Patroons. It's not what you build your lineup around, and all that describes the show before you sub out Terry for Leery, in which case everything gets worse in the aforementioned ways.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Curious Hair wrote:
When you really stop and think about it, it's kind of absurd that Boers & Bernstein has been allowed to become Chicago sports talk's show of record. That doesn't mean it's a bad show, because it isn't at all, just that I wouldn't make it my flagship. I loved Arrested Development, but I wouldn't anchor a block of primetime with it. Don't ask me where I would ever get such an outrageous idea, but I don't think the average Chicago sports talk listener is in it for the esoteric nonsense that I'm in it for. As such, we're in the odd position of having our biggest show on our biggest station be one that just complains about the audience, complains about the meaninglessness of what they cover, ignores everything they don't like, and now and then circle-jerks over wild nights of yore with the Albany Patroons. It's not what you build your lineup around, and all that describes the show before you sub out Terry for Leery, in which case everything gets worse in the aforementioned ways.


My guy!
Author:  Scorehead [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:
Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
The problem is that swapping Leery in for Teary changes the show from Arrested Development to one of those Simmons-Gladwell mailbags, only with Lance Briggs' name dropped instead of Adam Carolla's.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Scorehead wrote:
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:


Link?

Not that I don't believe you or anything, but it'd be interesting to look at.
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:


Link?

Not that I don't believe you or anything, but it'd be interesting to look at.


http://chicagoradioandmedia.com/news/2610-a-look-at-chicagos-june-2012-radio-ratings-from-arbitron
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Thanks.
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Thanks.


Anything for you.
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
There's one thing Laurence Holmes might have to give up if he ever replaced Terry Boers. Laurence & Zach Zaidman are the voices of really bad DePaul basketball on The SCORE these days, and I don't know if Holmes would be willing to give up such duties, either as analyst or as occasional play-by-play voice when Zaidman's on Bears Radio Network duty. Might he also have to give up his NBC5 duties, too?
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Eh-eh...you said duty while talking about Holmes & Zaidman...eh-eh...
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Scorehead wrote:
Eh-eh...you said duty while talking about Holmes & Zaidman...eh-eh...

Well, Holmes has his hands in quite a few things these days, not just on The SCORE. :wink:
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Scorehead wrote:
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:

That really speaks poorly of the Chicago audience, though, and not so much B&B. The Mully & Hanley show is -unarguably- the worst thing in the world. The fact that there's apparently a large proportion of the Chicago sports fan who enjoys them proves unequivocally that the audience is comprised of a large percentage of utter morons.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
how do they determine these ratings?

methinks the spike has to do with more people (admitting) that they listen to radio on their morning drive to work than on the way back, when they'll want to put on some anthemic rock songs before they grab a beer and "cut loose"
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Dave In Champaign wrote:
The problem is that swapping Leery in for Teary changes the show from Arrested Development to one of those Simmons-Gladwell mailbags, only with Lance Briggs' name dropped instead of Adam Carolla's.

You are veary passionate about this
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
They tried Laurence in a daytime slot before on The SCORE a few years ago. We all remember how badly his midday show with Dan Hampton did...It can't happen again...can it?
Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
sinicalypse wrote:
how do they determine these ratings?

You're given a little talisman that picks up radio signals anywhere your ears hear them, then reports these listening/hearing patterns to Arbitron. It's an improvement over the former "diary" method, where people were just expected to write down what they remembered listening to, and just said "I dunno, the Cubs on WGN." That's why WGN went from #1 to like #20.

Presumably, as regards M&H, the people meter picks up the clock-radio on your nightstand as you're ambling about the house getting ready in the morning with the Score as background noise, rather than actively listening to Brian Hanley's bad jokes.
Author:  SHARK [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Curious Hair wrote:
sinicalypse wrote:
how do they determine these ratings?

You're given a little talisman that picks up radio signals anywhere your ears hear them, then reports these listening/hearing patterns to Arbitron. It's an improvement over the former "diary" method, where people were just expected to write down what they remembered listening to, and just said "I dunno, the Cubs on WGN." That's why WGN went from #1 to like #20.

I don't think that's the reason why 720 WGN Radio's ratings dropped not that long ago. Two words...Randy Michaels. Six more words...Ex-Program Director Kevin "Pig Vomit" Metheny. It's not just the Cubs...
Author:  Scorehead [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
MattInTheCrown wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:

That really speaks poorly of the Chicago audience, though, and not so much B&B. The Mully & Hanley show is -unarguably- the worst thing in the world. The fact that there's apparently a large proportion of the Chicago sports fan who enjoys them proves unequivocally that the audience is comprised of a large percentage of utter morons.


So you are right & everyone else is wrong? The way I see it. who would you rather listen to, M&H or M&M ?
For me its M&H in a landslide.
Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Dan and Leery? I'd probably listen to a lot more music.
Author:  MattInTheCrown [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How well would a DAN & Leery show do, ratings-wise?
Scorehead wrote:
MattInTheCrown wrote:
Scorehead wrote:
Since some of you B&B ALS'rs dont believe it, here are the June ratings:

Mully & Hanley, 7.9 share

Mac & Meat, 6.3 share

B&B, 5.5 share

Dan & Loho would get the same ratings as B&B. Believe it or not, I listened to some of Dan & Loho last week & I actually enjoyed it. :shock:

That really speaks poorly of the Chicago audience, though, and not so much B&B. The Mully & Hanley show is -unarguably- the worst thing in the world. The fact that there's apparently a large proportion of the Chicago sports fan who enjoys them proves unequivocally that the audience is comprised of a large percentage of utter morons.


So you are right & everyone else is wrong? The way I see it. who would you rather listen to, M&H or M&M ?
For me its M&H in a landslide.

Thank you for proving my point.
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