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State your case for Bernstein (Dan vs Dan SCORE Cold War)
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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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Bring it...
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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I think Bernstein is one of the funniest guys I ever listened to.
He just needs to stop playing this role of a all-knowing,anal retentive,elitist,sniveling little manbitch.
Author:  Peoria Matt [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
I think Bernstein is one of the funniest guys I ever listened to.


Are you being serious, jimmy?
Author:  Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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I don't think Bernstein has changed...but the number of guests willing to appear on the show has dropped over the years.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:30 pm ]
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Peoria Matt wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
I think Bernstein is one of the funniest guys I ever listened to.


Are you being serious, jimmy?


B&B have always cracked me up. The last 3 or 4 years have been rough though with Bernsies attitude.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:44 pm ]
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Here's what I find odd about Bernstein, or at least how he comes across to me.

I usually like the uncomfortable mean radio but with him it goes a little too far. Kinda like watching a kid get picked on in high school. At some point, its enough, but some people dont stop.

Like, when he is clearly baiting them and gets them to call in and just kinda laughs at em, it works. When he gets angry and tries to flex his intellect against "Bob on a car phone" it loses its humor.

He has funny moments but his comedic timing is always a tic off. He frequently struggles to get to the joke. But thats just the one liner. He's good at directing the show down a comedy lane, if you will (and you shall)


My thought on the War is that Bernstein COULD win, but he wouldnt. He would end up not caring. Mac cares about this type of thing. Bernstein cant. The minute he does, he loses, because his whole persona is shattered.
Author:  Mr. Reason [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:47 pm ]
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Like most elitists, Berns suffers from a lack of self-awareness, plain and simple.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:56 pm ]
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jimmypasta wrote:
I think Bernstein is one of the funniest guys I ever listened to.
He just needs to stop playing this role of a all-knowing,anal retentive,elitist,sniveling little manbitch.


Do you mean just sports radio? If so, I'd agree.

But if it's on radio period, there's a lot of ground for him to cover before he's even thought of as one of the funniest guys ever .... Stern is king, Brandmeier, Lujack, Kev Matthews, Dahl/Meier, Fred Winston, etc.
Author:  donspiracy [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:59 pm ]
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Bernsie is the FOTS. Smartest guy in the room, just ask him. :lol:

He gets me closer to the fan championship.
Author:  Sum1Here [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:14 pm ]
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How do we know there is a "Cold War" between Dan and Dan? Is it just because of the Finfer appointment as 3rd man?
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:24 pm ]
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Sum1Here wrote:
How do we know there is a "Cold War" between Dan and Dan? Is it just because of the Finfer appointment as 3rd man?

:lol:
Image
You're a sweet kid


Its been brewing for years, at least goes back to 06

There can only be one Alpha Dog, they know they have to fight, its just a matter of when
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:42 am ]
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Dan can be a fun listen when he lets his guard down. He comes at things from a different angle and usually has support for his arguments so that they create more than just opinion radio. He recognizes much of the bullshit that has long been held as truth that is present in sports. He is (occasionally) iconoclastic and is not intimidated to take on big subject matter.
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:30 am ]
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Bernstein is smart and actually watches sports. Mac is a lazy oaf.
Author:  sinicalypse [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:50 am ]
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Don Tiny wrote:
jimmypasta wrote:
But if it's on radio period, there's a lot of ground for him to cover before he's even thought of as one of the funniest guys ever .... Stern is king, Brandmeier, Lujack, Kev Matthews, Dahl/Meier, Fred Winston, etc.

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Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:58 am ]
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Bernstein's smart, at least by sports-media standards (not exactly a high bar to hurdle, but still) and offers opinions and viewpoints that, for better or for worse, a lot of radio people don't. When he gets in a goofy mood he can be very funny. I think McNeil is smart too, but his show brands itself as a more standard chattin'-with-the-guy-on-the-next-barstool type of sports radio. I've always thought of B&B as the interesting show that pisses you off and McNeil as the really enjoyable listen that generally doesn't provide you with a new perspective.

The problem for Bernstein is that stridency and inconsistency don't mix. You can't use Fangraphs to bludgeon smallball fans if you're going to spend the better part of a decade carrying water for Ozzie Guillen. You can't perform sentence-by-sentence fiskings of Telander editorials if you're going to pimp a dolt like Hub Arkush as some sort of NFL guru. You can't scornfully imply that blue-collar sports fans are a gaggle of racist wife-beating homophobes if you're going to give Joe Cowley a bro-hug when he basically says that a woman is the useless flap of skin around the vagina. And you most definitely can't be the thinking fan's show if you refuse to brook even minor disagreement, to the degree that you gleefully block people who possess the temerity to demand less self-righteous fury about central Pennsylvania child rape. There have been times when I thought Bernstein was the best sports radio host in the country, but in the last year and a half he's edged dangerously close to becoming a more articulate Mike Francesa, and (particularly given the fact that there's a breezy alternative from 9-1) that kind of radio just isn't appealing.
Author:  Dave In Champaign [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:59 am ]
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I'll add that I think a lot of these problems can be solved by giving Bernstein a new partner. I love Terry, but he's completely checked out at this point and has basically left Dan free to sit around and sniff his own farts for months at a time. A strong partner who could challenge him (read: Mac) would be terrific radio.
Author:  BD [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:06 am ]
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He's a talented talk show host who is extremely negative about most topics (imagine that, a negative talk show host). With the concussion and Penn St. talk, he seems to be more interested in talking about off the field stories than anything on the field as well, probably an attempt to diversify himself.
Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:02 pm ]
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He is the sports radio enforcer of ideas and attitudes originating in a ruling class that would never take him seriously. He is elitist but not elite. He is an errand boy for grocery clerks.
Author:  City of Fools [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:27 pm ]
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Dave in Champaign:

Like a lot of what you said, but are you really comparing Hub to Rick Telander? Really? If Hub's a dolt then Rick Telander doesn't have a functioning brain cell.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:31 pm ]
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City of Fools wrote:
Dave in Champaign:

Like a lot of what you said, but are you really comparing Hub to Rick Telander? Really? If Hub's a dolt then Rick Telander doesn't have a functioning brain cell.

Rick Telander is way smarter than Hub and its not close.


And I very much dislike Telander.
Author:  BD [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:32 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
City of Fools wrote:
Dave in Champaign:

Like a lot of what you said, but are you really comparing Hub to Rick Telander? Really? If Hub's a dolt then Rick Telander doesn't have a functioning brain cell.

Rick Telander is way smarter than Hub and its not close.


And I very much dislike Telander.


Telander thinks that he's smart. His columns, when I used to read them, bored me.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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Smarter than Hub though
Author:  BD [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:40 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Smarter than Hub though


Hub's problem is that he's smug. He thinks he's smarter than the room and often makes statements (that are opinions) that turn out to be completely wrong.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:15 pm ]
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BD wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Smarter than Hub though


Hub's problem is that he's smug. He thinks he's smarter than the room and often makes statements (that are opinions) that turn out to be completely wrong.

He's like Telander in that way.

They're both horrible.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:16 pm ]
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Hub is awesome.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:22 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Hub is awesome.

At smarm

Nice of him to waste everyone's time on Michigan Alabama last week.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:23 pm ]
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You don't think he's knowledgeable?
Author:  Gloopan Kuratz [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
You don't think he's knowledgeable?

Hub is very knowledgeable. Just ask him.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:31 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
You don't think he's knowledgeable?

About what?

Definitely not the NFL.

He knows as much as any draft freak out there. Not much more than that.
Author:  The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:34 pm ]
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Oh, okay. Well I certainly don't claim to know a lot about football, so when I listen to Hub, my ears tell me that the guy knows what he's talking about. Maybe I'm wrong.
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