Cooperstown?
I assume he will be the first HoF inductee of the PED generation? Oh wait, seems lots of people are conveniently forgetting that.
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | 10/28 Red Sox Win game 4 because of Ortiz speech |
When Papi talks, Red Sox listen David Ortiz woke up his teammates ... and changed the (blank)ing Series Originally Published: October 27, 2013 By Rick Reilly | ESPN.com RECOMMEND80TWEET13EMAILPRINT Gomes' Blast Lifts Red Sox In Game 4 ST. LOUIS -- Even an hour after it was over, we could hear David Ortiz, somewhere in the showers, still yelling. "You see?!? You see?!?" he kept hollering at somebody we couldn't see. "I got two rings! You want a ring, you need to listen to me when I go crazy! You need to listen!" They did. And this World Series is all new for it. Just before the sixth inning Sunday in Game 4, with the Boston Red Sox looking like they'd stayed too long at the blood bank, Ortiz gathered them all into a huddle in the dugout. [+] EnlargeDavid Ortiz AP Photo/Matt Slocum After David Ortiz used the dugout as his pulpit, the Red Sox responded with a three-run sixth inning. "It was like 24 kindergartners looking up at their teacher," left fielder Jonny Gomes said. "That message was pretty powerful." It must've gotten through to Gomes. Minutes later, he drilled a Busch-busting, two-out, three-run home run -- with Ortiz standing on first -- that cracked the game open and evened this Dramamine Series at 2-2, with Boston getting two of the next three games at home. Big Papi will go down as one of the most clutch hitters in postseason history -- he's hitting a ridiculous .727 in this Series -- but who knew he was one of the most clutch speakers? "We call Big Papi 'Cooperstown,'" starter Clay Buchholz said. "Whatever he says, everybody listens." "He kind of took us all into the corner of the dugout," outfielder Daniel Nava said. "I can't repeat all the words he was using, but he just shook us up." Outfielder Quintin Berry: "He was yelling and screaming. It was like football or something. Man, he had everybody juiced up. 'We can hit this guy. Get on that fastball!" Nava: "It was like, 'It's go time. Let's get after them. Let's get in the box and be looking to do some damage.' And I mean, he never does that. And it worked." World Series: Cardinals-Red Sox Complete coverage of the Cardinals-Red Sox series. More ยป The Red Sox were listing. They were stinging from two games blown by wildly stupid throwing errors. They were taking too many good strikes. Without the DH, they looked as lost as a man in the wrong pair of glasses. "We were putting all the pressure on ourselves," Ortiz would explain afterward. "I saw some faces that were down. I asked them to wake up their minds." Nava: "It was just what we needed. He told us to put our foot on the accelerator. To get going. To not sit back. And it was just so unexpected. And you couldn't help but listen." Where did Ortiz learn to orate like that? "Bill Clinton, he makes a lot of money making speeches," Ortiz said. "And he changes a lot of lives with his speeches. I watch him. I learn. If you can get people to listen, they will react." Their ears ringing, the Red Sox suddenly believed in a place called Hope. Dustin Pedroia started things with a two-out single. Then the white-hot Ortiz walked on four pitches. That brought up Gomes, who was 0-for-9 in this Series, hitting .125, lifetime, in the postseason, and wasn't even supposed to be playing at all in Game 4. He made it into the lineup only because Shane Victorino strained his back. Thank you, muscle strain. Gomes ripped the fifth pitch he saw, a slider from Cardinal reliever Seth Maness, over the left-field wall to make it 4-1. All over Boston, people started grabbing each other's beards. [+] EnlargeDavid Ortiz Jim Davis/The Boston Globe/Getty Images David Ortiz picked up Koji Uehara after Boston's win and has been carrying the team all series. Ortiz is always the most fun, goofy and yet passionate player you'll find in baseball. But in this series, he has been double that. He has been pounding his chest at first base after big putouts, gesturing wildly at his teammates when he gets a hit, and he has gotten a lot of them. He's 37, playing in his third World Series, and yet you'd think it was his first. "Why shouldn't I be [excited]?" he said. "I don't have another 10 years in me. I don't know when I'm going to make it to another one." He said he felt this Series slipping away and did something about it. "I'm a dinosaur, man. I've seen so many things these guys have never seen. I know how big this is. I been on better teams here that didn't even make the playoffs. So I know. I have to squeeze everything out of every chance I get now." Big Papi is the Charles Barkley of baseball, possessed with so much irresistible charm and organic leadership that you and your inner tube would follow him over Niagara Falls. And that doesn't stop at teammates. Remember his famous Fenway Park speech after the Boston Marathon bombings in April? When a staggered city didn't quite know what to think or how to feel? Ortiz woke it up, too. "This jersey that we wear today, it doesn't say Red Sox. It says Boston," Ortiz said that day. "This is our [blank]ing city! And nobody's going to dictate our freedom. Stay strong." Suddenly, thanks to Ortiz, this is looking like Boston's (blank)ing Series. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 10/28 Red Sox Win game 4 because of Ortiz speech |
You can keep that shit in the NFL. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:49 am ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: You can keep that shit in the NFL. Bottom line, Gomes doesnt hit the homerun without the speech. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:58 am ] |
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Cooperstown? I assume he will be the first HoF inductee of the PED generation? Oh wait, seems lots of people are conveniently forgetting that.
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:02 am ] |
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The floodgate will open shortly. One just got named manager of the Nats. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:14 am ] |
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yeah, one steroid guy will get in and then they will all get in Momentum: RED SOX |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:14 am ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Hatchetman wrote: You can keep that shit in the NFL. Bottom line, Gomes doesnt hit the homerun without the speech. THAT SPEECH DIDNT MAKE GOMES BETTER AT BASEBALL!!! |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:18 am ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Hatchetman wrote: You can keep that shit in the NFL. Bottom line, Gomes doesnt hit the homerun without the speech. THAT SPEECH DIDNT MAKE GOMES BETTER AT BASEBALL!!! A very calm "Yes, Dan, it did" would be the best answer You've heard of performance enhancing drugs right? They change body chemistrty right? Isnt it possible to be moved by words? Couldnt that theoretically pump up the adrenaline and make a fly out a home run? Id love someone to argue this with him |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:27 am ] |
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| Love this article. Love him giving credit to Bill Clinton. Priceless. Big Papi has been amazing. Hitting over 700 in a World Series! Crazy good. And to top it all off the Cardinal fans absolutely HATE him. Which makes it even sweeter! |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:34 am ] |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:38 am ] |
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Wouldn't it stand to reason, biologically speaking, that some humans have stronger "fight or flight" responses (adrenaline, etc) that actually does cause an increase in performance when motivated by words or any number of other external factors? Doesn't it also stand to reason that certain humans lack this response (or have too much of it depending on the task) and shut down during pressure-filled situations? |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:41 am ] |
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leashyourkids wrote: Wouldn't it stand to reason, biologically speaking, that some humans have stronger "fight or flight" responses (adrenaline, etc) that actually does cause an increase in performance when motivated by words or any number of other external factors? Doesn't it also stand to reason that certain humans lack this response (or have too much of it depending on the task) and shut down during pressure-filled situations?  Hang up on yourself. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:52 am ] |
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RFDC wrote: :lol: Love this article. Love him giving credit to Bill Clinton. Priceless. Big Papi has been amazing. Hitting over 700 in a World Series! Crazy good. And to top it all off the Cardinal fans absolutely HATE him. Which makes it even sweeter! Except I don't hate him at all. I realize he is a great player. So was Manny. And Sosa. And Bonds. Papi is having a monster postseason. But we all know he is/was a PED user, so stop with the Cooperstown crap until one of those guys actually gets in. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:54 am ] |
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Beltran is another guy. Looks like his face was blown up with helium. Moon man. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:04 am ] |
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redskingreg wrote: RFDC wrote: :lol: Love this article. Love him giving credit to Bill Clinton. Priceless. Big Papi has been amazing. Hitting over 700 in a World Series! Crazy good. And to top it all off the Cardinal fans absolutely HATE him. Which makes it even sweeter! Except I don't hate him at all. I realize he is a great player. So was Manny. And Sosa. And Bonds. Papi is having a monster postseason. But we all know he is/was a PED user, so stop with the Cooperstown crap until one of those guys actually gets in. Just about every Cardinal fan that I work with hates him. And I get that, but the thing that pisses me off is that it is always stated in a way that makes it seem like the Cardinals do it the right way. They are trying to win the series with good clean guys and the evil Red Sox are doing it wrong. The organization that had McGuire as their hero for how long? Yeah not buying that one. And don't even get me started on the whole "everyone hates on the Cardinals" mantra that so many of their fans have. The announcers are anti cardinals...blah blah blah |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:05 am ] |
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Arent Buck and Macgarver the cardinal home team announcers? |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:15 am ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Arent Buck and Macgarver the cardinal home team announcers? Buck is. I think McCarver only does Fox games with him. But he definitely has a huge Cardinal affiliation. But that don't matter, unless they are praising the Cardinals continually they are on the anti band wagon |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:18 am ] |
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RFDC wrote: redskingreg wrote: RFDC wrote: :lol: Love this article. Love him giving credit to Bill Clinton. Priceless. Big Papi has been amazing. Hitting over 700 in a World Series! Crazy good. And to top it all off the Cardinal fans absolutely HATE him. Which makes it even sweeter! Except I don't hate him at all. I realize he is a great player. So was Manny. And Sosa. And Bonds. Papi is having a monster postseason. But we all know he is/was a PED user, so stop with the Cooperstown crap until one of those guys actually gets in. Just about every Cardinal fan that I work with hates him. And I get that, but the thing that pisses me off is that it is always stated in a way that makes it seem like the Cardinals do it the right way. They are trying to win the series with good clean guys and the evil Red Sox are doing it wrong. The organization that had McGuire as their hero for how long? Yeah not buying that one. And don't even get me started on the whole "everyone hates on the Cardinals" mantra that so many of their fans have. The announcers are anti cardinals...blah blah blah Fair enough. I guess I'm not your typical Cardinals fan. Papi, Pujols, Beltran, etc. are no different in my book, from a PED standpoint. I had this discussion with a buddy yesterday, who has similar views (annoyance/hate) towards Cardinals fans as you seem to have. One of his points was "our" frequent reference to the Greatest Fans in Baseball. I've never said this. I always felt it was more of the media pushing it. Then he informs me his buddies all say it. THAT shit annoys me. There are damn good baseball fans at Busch Stadium, as there are at any stadium, but don't boast about it. Reminds me of a story from 2007. My buddy and I got tickets right before game time, so I didn't get to my seat until late first inning. I always hated Jason Marquis. Since he played for the Cubs, he didn't get to participate in the ring ceremony that year. However, they were giving him the ring before this game. I missed it. As I get to my seat, I jokingly asked the lady next to me if they booed Marquis (like I said, I never liked him). She responds with "We're Cardinals fans. We don't boo." I cringed. Wanted to tell her to get off her fucking high horse. I certainly remember Izzy being booed as he was jogging to the mound many times. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:22 am ] |
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redskingreg, you are definitly in the minority of Cardinal fans I have been around. 99% of Cardinal fans I know embrace and truly believe they are the greatest fans in any sport and they have a huge chip on their shoulder because they feel like they are looked down upon by New York, Boston, Chicago, LA... It annoys me. Every fan base has good fans and awful fans. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:47 am ] |
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The City of St Louis is nowhere near the same class as Chicago, Boston, NY, etc. Their Baseball teams historically has been vastly superior to everybody except the Yankees. |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:20 pm ] |
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The sick influence of Bernsie on all of us. I see many of you do what I do when consuming media- "What will Bernsie think/say about this?" |
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| Author: | Franky T [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:57 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Arent Buck and Macgarver the cardinal home team announcers? Buck is. I think McCarver only does Fox games with him. But he definitely has a huge Cardinal affiliation. But that don't matter, unless they are praising the Cardinals continually they are on the anti band wagon Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. But don't let stop your Cardinals fan strawman express! |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:04 pm ] |
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Franky T wrote: RFDC wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Arent Buck and Macgarver the cardinal home team announcers? Buck is. I think McCarver only does Fox games with him. But he definitely has a huge Cardinal affiliation. But that don't matter, unless they are praising the Cardinals continually they are on the anti band wagon Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. But don't let stop your Cardinals fan strawman express! You're joking right? |
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| Author: | Dave In Champaign [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
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Franky T wrote: Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. lolwut |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
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Hatchetman wrote: Beltran is another guy. Looks like his face was blown up with helium. Moon man. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:09 pm ] |
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Franky T wrote: Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. But don't let stop your Cardinals fan strawman express! Kirkwood wrote: You're joking right? Dave In Champaign wrote: lolwut Buck hasn't been the Cardinals broadcaster since like 2007 or something ... which is more than long enough for anyone paying the very least amount of attention greater than zero to realize that. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:11 pm ] |
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Dave In Champaign wrote: Franky T wrote: Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. lolwut He hasnt announced their games since 2008 He was only their announcer for like 17 years and grew up in the organization. |
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| Author: | Dave In Champaign [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:12 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Dave In Champaign wrote: Franky T wrote: Dead wrong. Buck doesn't have anything to do with the Cardinals. lolwut He hasnt announced their games since 2008 He was only their announcer for like 17 years and grew up in the organization. aka NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CARDINALS |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:46 pm ] |
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| Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:49 pm ] |
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#monetizeeeverydiddle |
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