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Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:11 pm ] |
Post subject: | 10/29 Regular season and first round doesnt matter |
This tired narrative. Even when he has a point he comes across as a such a douche I want to disagree with him. By Dan Bernstein- CBSChicago.com Senior Columnist (CBS) Only 82 games and at least one best-of-seven playoff series to go before this season starts for real. And we’re sure ready for some important Bulls basketball. Is it May, yet? With the apparently significant 2013 NBA Exhibition-Game Championship wrapped up, Tom Thibodeau and the Bulls set out now for six months of proving once again that they can be what they’ve always been, until springtime finally arrives. Only then can they show whether or not they have become something more. They will win. A lot. They will play smothering defense. They will out-execute and outhustle opponents most nights, compiling victories. Derrick Rose will be back to providing highlights, as Stacey King gushes a torrent of precious nicknames and perfunctory catch-phrases. They may be the top overall seed in the Eastern Conference, after having played every possession as intensely as humanly possible. The leaves are not done falling yet, but we will not know much more about the Bulls until the trees are once again green. Outcomes in October or January against the Heat are not predictive. No matter what is said or written between now and the 2014 postseason, there are no “statements.” There are no incremental marking points, no material declarations of status, no portentous shots across an enemy’s bow. Besides, LeBron James can’t hear any statements, because his rings are in his ears. It will surprise nobody should the Bulls win the opener in Miami after another banner is raised. Rose will score 32, James and friends will be listless after ceremonial hoopla and trail by double digits, before the inevitable rally falls short against typically relentless defense. James rims out a potential game-winner, and we settle in for many cold weeks of overreaction and inflated speculation, as if none of this has ever happened before. The Bulls own a 7-4 record against Miami over the last three years. The Heat have an 8-2 record against them in playoff games in the same span. Some of us feel this desire to fast-forward as much out of dread as mere impatience, looking at the risk/reward balance of all the time to kill. So much more negative can occur than positive, especially understanding the physical toll a usual Bulls effort takes before the real contests begin. History suggests a league-leading minute load for Luol Deng, as well as chronically sore feet for the already-hobbled Joakim Noah. With no other useful big man on the bench, Taj Gibson’s annual aches could begin sooner than ever as he’s pressed into overuse. Kirk Hinrich will likely experience a signature series of bizarre injuries and illnesses, including but not limited to: acute lactose intolerance, stigmata, post-traumatic stress disorder, hysterical pregnancy, spontaneous combustion, and being attacked in his hotel room by machete-wielding dwarves aligned with the Basque Separatist movement. And this is assuming Rose comes through unscathed enough. Before you direct any ire my way, know that much of this unease is shared by Gar Forman, John Paxson and others above Thibodeau who have noted the more careful approach taken by contending teams that are better aware that some games matter more than others. The Berto Center has not been a comfortable workplace for some time, primarily due to this disconnect over the proper budgeting of flesh-and-bone resources. Yet all the fun begins, and it will be fun. Rose seems set to make a run at another MVP award, even if he needs the occasional day off for maintenance on his remodeled knee. It’s a flexible new offense that should mean quicker scoring chances and fewer shot-clock bail-outs. New faces on the roster could surprise, pleasantly. Let’s hope it all ends up meaning something. |
Author: | jimmypasta [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:41 pm ] |
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I guess this "regular season doesn't matter" thing didn't extend to Lovie's Bears team who looked like they were not trying against the Pack in game 16 a few years back. That didn't work out to well in the NFC Championship Game a few weeks later. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:46 pm ] |
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Dan can feel free at any time to put his mouth where his blogumn is and not devote any of his show to breaking down "meaningless" exhibition games, but you and I both know he'll be breaking down Thibs' Ton-O-Stuff against the fucking New Orleans Pelicans and then gloating over the amazing ratings it got vis-a-vis the most recent Blackhawks game -- all of it prefaced, nonetheless, by the fact that none of it means anything because LeBron is so great; Ethan Skolnick will join us after the bottom of the hour to break down last night's Heat-Nets game. |
Author: | Rod [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:56 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Dan can feel free at any time to put his mouth where his blogumn is and not devote any of his show to breaking down "meaningless" exhibition games, but you and I both know he'll be breaking down Thibs' Ton-O-Stuff against the fucking New Orleans Pelicans and then gloating over the amazing ratings it got vis-a-vis the most recent Blackhawks game -- all of it prefaced, nonetheless, by the fact that none of it means anything because LeBron is so great; Ethan Skolnick will join us after the bottom of the hour to break down last night's Heat-Nets game. I just read the Sports Illustrated basketball preview and I am left confused. From the Bulls section: "Tom Thibodeau is an excellent defensive coach, and he's pretty smart offensively. He doesn't have a gigantic playbook, but it's a playbook that makes sense for his players. He's more along the Vince Lombardi line of, This is what we're going to do, and we're going to do it well enough that you're not going to be able to stop it." So, does he run a ton of stuff or not? Who is more credible? The SI beat writer or an afternoon sports yapper? |
Author: | Darkside [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:58 pm ] |
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Bernstein is like a dog chasing a car. He wouldn't know what to do with it if he caught it. He just says things. |
Author: | SpiralStairs [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:26 pm ] |
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conns7901 wrote: This tired narrative. Even when he has a point he comes across as a such a douche I want to disagree with him. By Dan Bernstein- CBSChicago.com Senior Columnist (CBS) Only 82 games and at least one best-of-seven playoff series to go before this season starts for real. And we’re sure ready for some important Bulls basketball. Is it May, yet? With the apparently significant 2013 NBA Exhibition-Game Championship wrapped up, Tom Thibodeau and the Bulls set out now for six months of proving once again that they can be what they’ve always been, until springtime finally arrives. Only then can they show whether or not they have become something more. They will win. A lot. They will play smothering defense. They will out-execute and outhustle opponents most nights, compiling victories. Derrick Rose will be back to providing highlights, as Stacey King gushes a torrent of precious nicknames and perfunctory catch-phrases. They may be the top overall seed in the Eastern Conference, after having played every possession as intensely as humanly possible. The leaves are not done falling yet, but we will not know much more about the Bulls until the trees are once again green. Outcomes in October or January against the Heat are not predictive. No matter what is said or written between now and the 2014 postseason, there are no “statements.” There are no incremental marking points, no material declarations of status, no portentous shots across an enemy’s bow. Besides, LeBron James can’t hear any statements, because his rings are in his ears. It will surprise nobody should the Bulls win the opener in Miami after another banner is raised. Rose will score 32, James and friends will be listless after ceremonial hoopla and trail by double digits, before the inevitable rally falls short against typically relentless defense. James rims out a potential game-winner, and we settle in for many cold weeks of overreaction and inflated speculation, as if none of this has ever happened before. The Bulls own a 7-4 record against Miami over the last three years. The Heat have an 8-2 record against them in playoff games in the same span. Some of us feel this desire to fast-forward as much out of dread as mere impatience, looking at the risk/reward balance of all the time to kill. So much more negative can occur than positive, especially understanding the physical toll a usual Bulls effort takes before the real contests begin. History suggests a league-leading minute load for Luol Deng, as well as chronically sore feet for the already-hobbled Joakim Noah. With no other useful big man on the bench, Taj Gibson’s annual aches could begin sooner than ever as he’s pressed into overuse. Kirk Hinrich will likely experience a signature series of bizarre injuries and illnesses, including but not limited to: acute lactose intolerance, stigmata, post-traumatic stress disorder, hysterical pregnancy, spontaneous combustion, and being attacked in his hotel room by machete-wielding dwarves aligned with the Basque Separatist movement. And this is assuming Rose comes through unscathed enough. Before you direct any ire my way, know that much of this unease is shared by Gar Forman, John Paxson and others above Thibodeau who have noted the more careful approach taken by contending teams that are better aware that some games matter more than others. The Berto Center has not been a comfortable workplace for some time, primarily due to this disconnect over the proper budgeting of flesh-and-bone resources. Yet all the fun begins, and it will be fun. Rose seems set to make a run at another MVP award, even if he needs the occasional day off for maintenance on his remodeled knee. It’s a flexible new offense that should mean quicker scoring chances and fewer shot-clock bail-outs. New faces on the roster could surprise, pleasantly. Let’s hope it all ends up meaning something. |
Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:11 pm ] |
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jimmypasta wrote: I guess this "regular season doesn't matter" thing didn't extend to Lovie's Bears team who looked like they were not trying against the Pack in game 16 a few years back. That didn't work out to well in the NFC Championship Game a few weeks later. They played hard in that game and tried to knock the Packers out. |
Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:42 am ] |
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conns7901 wrote: jimmypasta wrote: I guess this "regular season doesn't matter" thing didn't extend to Lovie's Bears team who looked like they were not trying against the Pack in game 16 a few years back. That didn't work out to well in the NFC Championship Game a few weeks later. They played hard in that game and tried to knock the Packers out. That's what I thought But I think they rested starters in the second half |
Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:24 am ] |
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Author: | Hatchetman [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:39 am ] |
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Dan's point is so obvious, no need to write an article about it. |
Author: | Tad Queasy [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:51 am ] |
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: The way that woman flips her hair back and her chest and butt proudly thrust fore and aft causes a plumpening of my wang that is most inappropriate in an office environment. |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:12 pm ] |
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Paxson, another guy you'd love to sit down and have a drink with. Dan is just Basketball Royko these days. |
Author: | Hockey Gay [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:13 pm ] |
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Tad Queasy wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: The way that woman flips her hair back and her chest and butt proudly thrust fore and aft causes a plumpening of my wang that is most inappropriate in an office environment. Was just gonna say this. She's DTF. |
Author: | pittmike [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:15 pm ] |
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Uh oh. Just as ending tranny early Terry said his favorite two words in show bidness. Spiegs said he might have to get used to that on this time of the time slot. Yikes. WTF |
Author: | Curious Hair [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:15 pm ] |
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Pretty sure NESN has a proud tradition of reporters who fuck the players. |
Author: | beni hanna [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:16 pm ] |
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Curious Hair wrote: Dan is just Basketball Royko these days. ? sarcasm meter is a little off today. |
Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:32 pm ] |
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So Bernstein, who has always thought the cloak-and-daggerishness of NFL head coaches is silly, asks ZZ why Trestman wasn't being more cloak-and-daggery about an early return of Cutler. |
Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:35 pm ] |
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pittmike wrote: Uh oh. Just as ending tranny early Terry said his favorite two words in show bidness. Spiegs said he might have to get used to that on this time of the time slot. Yikes. WTF ...headed for the drink.... They really ought to give Matty a chance if that is true. Keep Larry in nighttime where he belongs. |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: pittmike wrote: Uh oh. Just as ending tranny early Terry said his favorite two words in show bidness. Spiegs said he might have to get used to that on this time of the time slot. Yikes. WTF ...headed for the drink.... They really ought to give Matty a chance if that is true. Keep Larry in nighttime where he belongs. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:55 pm ] |
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regular season doesnt matter until you get a match-up of two teams that dont like each other. like tonight. should this game matter? no. will it matter if someone gets knocked to the floor and injuries happen? fuck yeah it will. i know im watching tonight, and i will have fun doing it. |
Author: | Dave In Champaign [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:05 pm ] |
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Minooka Meatball wrote: So Bernstein, who has always thought the cloak-and-daggerishness of NFL head coaches is silly, asks ZZ why Trestman wasn't being more cloak-and-daggery about an early return of Cutler. That all changed when Emery stole all those State Secrets from the rest of the league through interviews with Rick Dennison and Darrell Bevell. |
Author: | Don Tiny [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:14 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: City of Fools wrote: pittmike wrote: Uh oh. Just as ending tranny early Terry said his favorite two words in show bidness. Spiegs said he might have to get used to that on this time of the time slot. Yikes. WTF ...headed for the drink.... They really ought to give Matty a chance if that is true. Keep Larry in nighttime where he belongs. I must begrudgingly agree .... I really, really, really want Matty to have a show, but when I have listened, it's as best a coin flip as to what I'll be hearing will be entertaining or will be radio homicide. I can want to be an architect, but if I can't even print 'Art Vandelay' legibly I'm not gonna see too much success in the field, even as a latex salesman. Still doesn't explain why LoHo is allowed to breath on air, but the world is an unjust place. |
Author: | IkeSouth [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:17 pm ] |
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dan bernstein is a miserable pile of shit |
Author: | redskingreg [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:17 pm ] |
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lil' Danny got very upset when the caller said they can say whatever they want. |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:21 pm ] |
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Oooohhhhhh love it when Danny Hardass makes an appearance. " it's our radio show , of course we can say what we want. You don't tell us what we can say". And he has the fucking stones to mock Internet and twitter tough guys huh? |
Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:30 pm ] |
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has anyone brought up the fact that we shouldn't waste time talking Bulls basketball if they're going to get beat in the Eastern Conference? |
Author: | City of Fools [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:30 pm ] |
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has anyone brought up the fact that we shouldn't waste time talking Bulls basketball if they're going to get beat in the Eastern Conference? |
Author: | pittmike [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:33 pm ] |
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I was wondering as they talked about bench players whats with that Snell kid? Wasn't he supposed to be all long armed and defense gifted even if it takes a while for the off to come around? |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:33 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: has anyone brought up the fact that we shouldn't waste time talking Bulls basketball if they're going to get beat in the Eastern Conference? Not yet |
Author: | badrogue17 [ Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:34 pm ] |
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City of Fools wrote: has anyone brought up the fact that we shouldn't waste time talking Bulls basketball if they're going to get beat in the Eastern Conference? Not yet |
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